Southside Tulsa

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The Southside is the booming part of the city, or, at least it was, it has now largely run out of land and the growth has moved into the surrounding suburbs of Broken Arrow, Bixby and Jenks. Jenks and Bixby are the fastest growing cities in the state, Broken Arrow is Tulsa's largest suburb and is fast closing in on having 100,000 people living there on it's own.

Warren Place I

Warren Place II

DoubleTree Hotel at Warren Place

St Francis Hospital

Warren Clinic

Then there is the second tallest building in the state and the states largest office complex, Citiplex

And the new riverfront developments in south Tulsa and Jenks

Riverwalk Crossing

The now under construction Creek Nation Casino and Resort

The Oklahoma Aquarium

Plan for this reach of the river and Riverparks

This is the Sherwin Miller Museum of Jewish Art, a really cool building

Southern Hills Country Club, which has hosted more major golf tournaments than any course except Augusta

Some office towers along I-44

Tulsa's newest large hotel

Oral Roberts University

There's a lot more, something like 200,000 people live south of 61st St in the city of Tulsa and it is the main retail area of the metro.

[fromdust]

ohhh, i like this part of town. i really like the design of the natalie medical building. thnks for the pics. but in about 35 years when its old im coming up there to torch the place.

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ohhh, i like this part of town. i really like the design of the natalie medical building. thnks for the pics. but in about 35 years when its old im coming up there to torch the place.

But, isn't that the difference between Tulsa and Oklahoma City, we don't just build new and leave the old to rot, we maintain and restore where except for downtown and only for about the last ten years, OKC does not?

An example, OKC has more run down strip shopping centers than any other city I have ever seen, not that many of Tulsa's are any younger, but in Tulsa most are maintained and redone. Oklahoma City doesn't so much have a good "side" of town, as an outer ring where things are nicer (newer). That really needs to change.

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Another example, many people in OKC have been critical of Tulsa spending more than twice the money on a slightly smaller arena. But which building would you rather have, and which is going to need a flame thrower after 35 years, and which is not

OKC's Ford Center

Tulsa's BOk Center (Under Construction)

If you spend more to build a more lasting building in the first place, you might after 35 years end up with a masterpiece, or in this case after 65 years, The Tulsa Pavillion

No need for a flamethrower there......

And anyway, I was just kidding to start with, but you do bring up a good point.

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Now, if you want to flame part of Tulsa, start on 71st at about Mingo, move both north on Mingo and east on 71st. Worthless, ugly big box hell. Same as any suburban hell area in any metro in the nation.....

[shane453]

That last picture in your first post is cool... I've never seen that before. What is it?

This is one of my favorite areas of town, also. The architechture is really interesting, especially in the smaller buildings.

Tulsa's arena will be way nicer looking than the Ford Center, I'll give you that, but there's nothing to indicate that the Ford Center will be run down in 20 years. It's brick, it's nice, and it's in an area of town that isn't likely to be forgotten any time soon. And in defense of OKC, we're now doing exactly the opposite- starting with the inside and working out to improve the dilapidated areas. First Bricktown, now the rest of downtown is coming along, and Midtown is starting to move forward in the last few months. Maybe the trend will continue outward.

Tulsa Pavillion is really cool outside, but last time I went inside it (before Expo Square work got under way, however), it was scary how run down it was. Graffiti, dark hallways and stairwells... I'm hoping they have a lot of plans for the interior if they haven't already fixed it.

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That last picture in your first post is cool... I've never seen that before. What is it?

This is one of my favorite areas of town, also. The architechture is really interesting, especially in the smaller buildings.

Tulsa's arena will be way nicer looking than the Ford Center, I'll give you that, but there's nothing to indicate that the Ford Center will be run down in 20 years. It's brick, it's nice, and it's in an area of town that isn't likely to be forgotten any time soon. And in defense of OKC, we're now doing exactly the opposite- starting with the inside and working out to improve the dilapidated areas. First Bricktown, now the rest of downtown is coming along, and Midtown is starting to move forward in the last few months. Maybe the trend will continue outward.

Tulsa Pavillion is really cool outside, but last time I went inside it (before Expo Square work got under way, however), it was scary how run down it was. Graffiti, dark hallways and stairwells... I'm hoping they have a lot of plans for the interior if they haven't already fixed it.

The Pavillion has already been restored, the 66ers play there, in front of like 50 people. The last building is of course, the Prayer Tower at ORU with the eternal flame! Six Flags Over God!

[shane453]

Is the Pavillion the baseball stadium or the big colisseum? I think I got it confused with the main arena at Expo square... thought they called it the pavillion.

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Is the Pavillion the baseball stadium or the big colisseum? I think I got it confused with the main arena at Expo square... thought they called it the pavillion.

The Pavillion is (for today) a small arena, basketball and hockey, seats about 5,000 for basketball. The main building at expo square is the IPE Building, usually called the Expo Building, that's the huge one, over 400,000 sq ft free span, it was the largest free span building in the world for years. Two massive levels. There also is a horse racing track at Expo and the Baseball Stadium. The Baseball Stadium and Horse Track are at the other end of the complex from the Pavillion.

[Mith242]

I really like the BOK Center. Any ideas on who designed it?

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I really like the BOK Center. Any ideas on who designed it?

Cesar Pelli, designer of the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lampur

http://www.pcparch.com/flash.cfm

Tulsa's building is under projects, athletics, Tulsa Events Center

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Here is a photo of the pit where it is being built

More info than you ever wanted is here:

http://www.vision2025.info/category.php?mo...ioneventscenter

[Mith242]

Cesar Pelli, designer of the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lampur

http://www.pcparch.com/flash.cfm

Tulsa's building is under projects, athletics, Tulsa Events Center

That's right, I thought it was someone I had heard of. He also did those group of buildings by the location of the World Trade Center in NYC, although I don't remember what they area called. Thanks for the pic of the site too.

[jbrown84]

What is with all these flame thrower references?

Perhaps you're just jealous we actually have some street life.

[mcheiss]

Is there a famous Tulsian (I hope I said that right) who is named Warren?

It seems like theres a lot of Warren Buildings in the southside area.

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Is there a famous Tulsian (I hope I said that right) who is named Warren?

It seems like theres a lot of Warren Buildings in the southside area.

The Warren family is a very wealthy Tulsa family, some of those buildings they own, others they dontated money for.

[mcheiss]

Ah thanks.

Kind of like the Walton family where I live or the Stephens's in Little Rock.

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Ah thanks.

Kind of like the Walton family where I live or the Stephens's in Little Rock.

Sam Walton's first store was in Claremore in suburban Tulsa, it's also where his wife is from, odd little trivia there. You also have (had?) the Tyson family, but some of them now live in Tulsa, they bought one of Tulsa's Frank Lloyd Wright houses and spent $3 million to restore it. It's called Westhope.

http://www.tulsapreservationcommission.org/wh.htm