Myers Park / Eastover Projects

[KJHburg]

This is who owns the shopping center same group as has for years.   For me it is personal this is where my dad proposed to my mom in 1957 and without that act there is no KJ so yes it is personal with me.  

Consolidated Realty Company Inc

 

121 W Trade St #2500

 

Charlotte Nc

 

 

look @tarhoosier top view location location location as you say!

Edited May 20, 2020 by KJHburg

[QCxpat]

45 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

This is who owns the shopping center same group as has for years.   For me it is personal this is where my dad proposed to my mom in 1957 and without that act there is no KJ so yes it is personal with me.  

Consolidated Realty Company Inc

 

121 W Trade St #2500

 

Charlotte Nc

 

 

look @tarhoosier top view location location location as you say!

Thank God there's a KJ  -  UP loves  ya pal - keep on inspiring!

[southernnorthcarolina]

49 minutes ago, Madison Parkitect said:

You're right about it having no aesthetic claim but I think a case could be made for a cultural one. The Manor was the only theater around (as far as I know) that would show a lot of arthouse movies that weren't in normal theaters. With it closing, where can people go around here to watch that kind of movie? It's a real shame a city the size of Charlotte won't have a theater like this anymore.

 

Well, I guess it just gets down to my failure to appreciate the appeal of any movie theater, whether showing new films or vintage obscurities.  The home options -- Blu-ray, Hulu, YouTube, Turner Network, and dozens more -- seem to me superior to the movie theatre experience.  Heck, if you like sticky floors, worn and smelly upholstery, the smell of burned popcorn, and other people talking, you can re-create these at home.  I just don't get the nostalgia thing, especially given the video/audio quality now available at home.

That aside, on this real estate oriented forum, it seems to me that the idea of replacing a failing movie theatre with a midrise retail + residential and/or office tower would be a slam dunk.

 

[sakami]

58 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

This is who owns the shopping center same group as has for years.   For me it is personal this is where my dad proposed to my mom in 1957 and without that act there is no KJ so yes it is personal with me.  

Consolidated Realty Company Inc

 

121 W Trade St #2500

 

Charlotte Nc

 

 

look @tarhoosier top view location location location as you say!

But isn’t Consolidated Realty Company an affiliate of Eastern Federal? I’m hoping they aren’t selling or developing - at all - but they  were content to sit on the Martha Washington Apartments for years and years and finally pulled the trigger to sell those for redevelopment 2 years ago.  
 

[KJHburg]

6 minutes ago, sakami said:

But isn’t Consolidated Realty Company an affiliate of Eastern Federal? I’m hoping they aren’t selling or developing - at all - but they  were content to sit on the Martha Washington Apartments for years and years and finally pulled the trigger to sell those for redevelopment 2 years ago.  
 

Yes pretty sure that  Eastern Federal is parent to Consolidated Realty.  I am hoping they just release as I am sure there would be a lot of interest.  Building something else may require rezoning and it would be a battle royale. 

[southernnorthcarolina]

32 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Building something else may require rezoning and it would be a battle royale. 

 

Agree with that 100%.  If anything, "battle royale" is an understatement, given the prominence of the site.  I'll have to make my own popcorn since the theater is closed.  

[atlrvr]

They also owned the Duke Energy 2 site.  Eastern Federal is gonzo and exists as a land banking company now.

[KJHburg]

Just now, southernnorthcarolina said:

 

Agree with that 100%.  If anything, "battle royale" is an understatement, given the prominence of the site.  I'll have to make my own popcorn since the theater is closed.  

I am going to join the fight too at rezoning meetings. 

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

They also owned the Duke Energy 2 site.  Eastern Federal is gonzo and exists as a land banking company now.

and it took record $ per acre to wrestle it out of their hands.

[tozmervo]

I get the nostalgic appeal of the Manor and the cultural need for access to art house movies, but TBH I never particularly enjoyed seeing films there. The quality of the experience just isn't great. #unpopularopinion

[DCtransplant]

I get the nostalgic appeal of the Manor and the cultural need for access to art house movies, but TBH I never particularly enjoyed seeing films there. The quality of the experience just isn't great. #unpopularopinion

I agree with this. If we had other art house theaters, I wouldn't mind this news as much as I do. The city can support at least 1.

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[Madison Parkitect]

8 hours ago, tozmervo said:

I get the nostalgic appeal of the Manor and the cultural need for access to art house movies, but TBH I never particularly enjoyed seeing films there. The quality of the experience just isn't great. #unpopularopinion

You're right, it wasn't a great theater experience. I'm lamenting the loss of the city's only art house theater more than the loss of the Manor itself.

[videtur quam contuor]

Perhaps someone can help my memory. As I recall, the mens toilet was on the second level. It was shared use with the projectionist. (mmmmppf years ago)

[southernnorthcarolina]

 

The need for an "art house" movie theater is, to me, debatable, given modern capacity for home entertainment.  In fact, the era of movie theaters in general, whether "first run" or "art house" is coming to an end.  Showing films in a dark room does nothing to enliven the nearby streetscape -- didn't work at EpiCentre or Ballantyne, to name two recent fiascos.

If someone determines there is a market for such films, fine with me.  But why in Myers Park/ Eastover?  If the concept works at all, it might be in more of a hipster hood -- NoDa, Plaza Midweird, Elizabeth Avenue, or a back street in South End.

[Guest]

I got a tip that nobody's leases were renewed from Starbucks to DeeJai Tai, and that folks were offered a new spot in a mixed use building.

[DMann]

I have never been to the Visualite Theatre, but couldn't that become a venue for independent movies, or even perhaps using the Overcast in CCCP?  I have been to the Manor several times, and there have never been more than 30 or so people there.

[ajfunder]

48 minutes ago, Tyree Ricardo said:

I got a tip that nobody's leases were renewed from Starbucks to DeeJai Tai, and that folks were offered a new spot in a mixed use building.

Was Laurel Market Included in this? One of Charlotte's hidden gems at lunchtime.

[sclark]

I'd love to see an Alamo Drafthouse here in town. Not sure if there's enough demand for that type of independent programming... but I'd go! 

[videtur quam contuor]

In the 70's to mid 1980's (?) the Visulite was THE best movie theatre in town. The owners of Visulite and Plaza theatres hired a young man who had been infatuated with movies to book and run the Visulite. He was a friend of mine at the time, Hal Hinson. I saw Mean Streets (early Scorsese and DeNiro), Kagemusha-Shadow Warrior (Japanese with subtitles from Akira Kurosawa), Kentucky Fried Movie, and numerous others there. Hinson booked what he liked, what was good, and hoped it would sell. It did well enough for several years and then the numbers stopped working and the marquee said "Gone Fishin'". I remember it so fondly. 

Hal Hinson went on to be the movie reviewer for the Washington Post for twelve years and other papers and then online. It was the highest of waterlines for Charlotte and the seventh art. 

Edited May 21, 2020 by tarhoosier

[wadesboro2]

They also owned the Duke Energy 2 site.  Eastern Federal is gonzo and exists as a land banking company now.

Meiselman just bought the Boston Market and adjacent retail complex on Providence plus a similar neighborhood center on Selwyn. But I agree they seem to be passive owners.


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[JRNYP2C]

On 5/21/2020 at 10:07 AM, Tyree Ricardo said:

I got a tip that nobody's leases were renewed from Starbucks to DeeJai Tai, and that folks were offered a new spot in a mixed use building.

And another interesting tidbit, my old dentist was in the three story office building to the right of the Manor, and they moved about 2 miles away late last year.  So, is it possible that building is in the mix with this as well?

[QCxpat]

Today's Charlotte Ledger Business Newsletter - "County moves forward with Nature Museum expansion," by Tony Mecia 

"Mecklenburg County has developed what it says is a “final design plan” for the Nature Museum at Freedom Park, following a couple contentious meetings in the winter with Myers Park neighbors opposed to the idea of expanding the building.   “We are at a place now where we have satisfied the concerns of the neighbors,” County Manager Dena Diorio told commissioners on Tuesday night.  The county and Discovery Place, which runs the museum, have been working for years on a plan to replace the building, which was built in 1951.  They want to build a two-story structure that is nearly 26,000 s.f., double the current size, and expand the parking lot.  Nearby residents, though, worry that the expansion would require chopping down trees and would attract crowds that park on the street."  "New bus drop-off, parking lot changes:  The revised plan presented Tuesday leaves many of the building plans the same but makes some modifications to the parking that the county says satisfy the concerns of adjacent property owners.  Buses would drop off schoolchildren on Princeton Avenue, instead of at the existing entrance on Sterling Road, and the parking lot would be more compact and include a 38-foot buffer.  The site would take up 1.6 acres, up from the existing 1.3 acres, county officials said."  ... "The changes are unlikely to satisfy the concerns of all the neighbors, who had earlier suggested moving the museum to Park Road Park or somewhere else.  County officials repeatedly said they worked closely with adjacent property owners in the last few months."  ... "Construction would start in summer 2021, and the new museum would be open in early 2023, officials said."

New plan for Nature Museum: Buses would drop off students on Princeton Avenue, and the new building’s entrance would face the Little Sugar Creek greenway.

Link:  https://charlotteledger.substack.com/

[SydneyCarton]

 

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/charlottefive/c5-around-town/c5-development/article243806567.html?fbclid=IwAR20xhroFPn7HXNSO3AR3ZXMUZgbrHjZXIsiQX86JOR8McdOCfgE2qD2Z20
 

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[CLT>]

Signage going in at Novant’s new Cancer/Heart building

[videtur quam contuor]

Little action recently on this thread. After the discovery of the demise of the tree at Charlotte Pipe I made a turn through Myers Park.

Former Harry and Bryant Funeral Home. Announced almost two years ago for an office building and now ready for demolition, maybe? Providence at Moravian Lane. Harry and Bryant and forbears were in this business from 1883. Building here from 1926.

The oldest business in Mecklenburg County to my knowledge is Midas Spring Water off  Beattys Ford Road. Some questions about the qualifications of a "business", but I accept the Midas claim. If you go toward Latta Plantation and Latta Park on Beattys Ford the Midas Spring source is on the left.

https://www.midasspring.com/about

McEwen, originally the Mint Hill and East Mecklenburg area funeral home is the new location. McEwen is a long time family name in Mint Hill region.

This is at Laurel and Cherokee, close to Laurel Market. 32 condos, 1.75mm and up. Sales center in small house across the street for those with investment ideas.

This is a deep lot.

Front corner

Simonini condos at Pembroke and Queens. 14 units

Edited December 29, 2021 by tarhoosier