Pete Hollis Gateway

[NewlyUpstate]

Lewis Barbecue is slated to open on Wednesday September 14th. 

Really looking forward to this one.

[gman430]

Hmmm…

Edited October 18, 2022 by gman430

[btoy]

yep, its that project you thought was dead years ago

[gman430]

3 hours ago, btoy said:

yep, its that project you thought was dead years ago

I certainly hope you’re right. I loved the architecture of it. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by gman430

[NewlyUpstate]

+ I'm sure Cooks Station would absolutely love to have a lot of wealthier old people right across the street. LOL

[Danmire]

Notices some survey stakes at the plot of land beside the salvation army at W Stone and Pete Hollis.  I wonder if we'll start to see some development at this intersection 

[vicupstate]

On 10/18/2022 at 3:12 PM, gman430 said:

Hmmm…

10/19/2022: 601 Buncombe St, 309 Butler Ave and 711 Buncombe St sold for $3mm. 3.05 acres. 

[gman430]

On 11/19/2022 at 12:53 PM, vicupstate said:

10/19/2022: 601 Buncombe St, 309 Butler Ave and 711 Buncombe St sold for $3mm. 3.05 acres. 

This is who now owns it: 

https://www.popeandland.com/

Curious to see what they have planned.

[apaladin]

On 12/28/2022 at 7:09 PM, gman430 said:

This is who now owns it: 

https://www.popeandland.com/

Curious to see what they have planned.

Of course the plan is to hold it then resale for profit!

[gman430]

Anybody have a status update on the Comfort Inn? 

[distortedlogic]

On 10/18/2022 at 8:46 PM, btoy said:

yep, its that project you thought was dead years ago

This?

I love this rendering!

[vicupstate]

6 hours ago, distortedlogic said:

This?

I love this rendering!

That is not the Comfort Inn. We never saw renders of the Comfort Inn. That is the high end Senior living across from Comfort Inn.  That was years ago though.

[distortedlogic]

2 hours ago, vicupstate said:

That is not the Comfort Inn. We never saw renders of the Comfort Inn. That is the high end Senior living across from Comfort Inn.  That was years ago though.

I thought that's what Brad was referencing. 

[gman430]

5 hours ago, distortedlogic said:

I thought that's what Brad was referencing. 

It’s a different developer that bought the former Cline site so I highly doubt it’s the same project as before.

[NewlyUpstate]

There's going to be a developer led neighborhood meeting for a 64 townhouse project in the Pete Hollis/Stone/Rutherford triangle. Looks like they are proposing demolishing only the Salvation Army and then will be filling in the remainder of the green space around Goodwin Street. This area is zoned RDV. Under the new code it's both MX-2 and MX-3. 

Will be interesting to see what happens here. I think the city would prefer this to become more of a node with mixed use, so townhomes would not be the best fit 

Edited March 19 by NewlyUpstate

[vicupstate]

13 hours ago, NewlyUpstate said:

There's going to be a developer led neighborhood meeting for a 64 townhouse project in the Pete Hollis/Stone/Rutherford triangle. Looks like they are proposing demolishing only the Salvation Army and then will be filling in the remainder of the green space around Goodwin Street. This area is zoned RDV. Under the new code it's both MX-2 and MX-3. 

Will be interesting to see what happens here. I think the city would prefer this to become more of a node with mixed use, so townhomes would not be the best fit 

Does it listed the acreage? Trying to determine which parcels are involved.  When and where is the meeting?

[NewlyUpstate]

1 hour ago, vicupstate said:

Does it listed the acreage? Trying to determine which parcels are involved.  When and where is the meeting?

April 10 at 6PM at Berkshire Hathaway. Here's the site plan.

I think this development could get away with some townhomes, but I really don't think it will pass review being all townhomes. Along stone and Pete Hollis I'm pretty sure the city will want to see more massing with mixed use facing the streets.

Edited March 19 by NewlyUpstate

[vicupstate]

While the RDV zoning  ALLOWS the mixed use development you describe and would encourage it, I don't think they can REQUIRE it. If Townhomes are allowed under this zoning, they don't have much leeway to stop it.

[NewlyUpstate]

20 minutes ago, vicupstate said:

While the RDV zoning  ALLOWS the mixed use development you describe and would encourage it, I don't think they can REQUIRE it. If Townhomes are allowed under this zoning, they don't have much leeway to stop it.

Which is why it'll be interesting to see what happens here.  Semi-dense townhomes with only a residential component does not at all align with the vision of the city for this area to be zoned half MX-3/MX-2, which is fairly dense non-downtown mixed use.  It will completely kill the potential for future street pedestrian activity along the stretches of street this development covers.  RDV, to me, is extremely nebulous in what the city will allow (definition below) from a planning approval perspective. In my opinion, a large townhome development, with no food, retail, commercial, or office uses, does not fall under the below definition, but I could see how some people could say it would.  To me, it almost feels like the developer is "rushing against the clock" to get this approved before the development code is finalized.

Quote

Purpose. The intent of the redevelopment district (RDV) is to promote appropriate investment and development in areas that are depressed or underdeveloped. The new development is intended to enhance and support adjacent communities by providing housing and job opportunities as well as convenient access to necessary goods and services. The new development should improve the quality of life for all who live, work, or shop in the area. The RDV is intended to create a gathering place for adjacent neighborhoods, upgrade and improve the physical, social, and economic character of the area and to promote mixed-use developments.