Holland Big Building Buyers

[ninehigh]

From what I understand, a Home Depot is planning on setting up shop in Holland. They are closing a deal for a 14 acre pad with some shared parking I believe. My question for this growing city is "Who's next"? What other "big building" business is left that hasn't joined the Holland area? Still no Costco... are there any others?

[GRDadof3]

From what I understand, a Home Depot is planning on setting up shop in Holland. They are closing a deal for a 14 acre pad with some shared parking I believe. My question for this growing city is "Who's next"? What other "big building" business is left that hasn't joined the Holland area? Still no Costco... are there any others?

I can actually see an IKEA built somewhere between Holland and Grand Rapids some day. Just speculating, but it would make sense.

Welcome ninehigh!

[ninehigh]

Ikea even though they are opening a store in Canton on June 7?

Thanks for the welcome too! I'm a long time reader, first time poster. Love the site.

[francishsu]

I can only think of Office Depot and CompUSA at the moment.

[GRDadof3]

Ikea even though they are opening a store in Canton on June 7?

Thanks for the welcome too! I'm a long time reader, first time poster. Love the site.

Yes. I think the Ottawa-Kent I-196/M-6 corridor growth will outstrip the Plymouth-Canton-Ann Arbor corridor (maybe already is). Rivertown Crossings alone makes three times the sales/square foot of any other General Growth property. That's straight from the horses mouth.

If they ever create a highway interchange at I-196 in the 48th Avenue area, look out! It would become the "West Beltline" of Metro GR running all the way up to Coopersville.

[Greedo]

IKEA now has two stores in the Chicago market less than 30 minutes from each other (Schaumburg and Bollingbrook). The whole state could support two stores the W. side and would attract shoppers from GR, Holland, Muskegon, but also Kzoo, Battle Creek and maybe even Lansing.

[GR8scott]

Yes. I think the Ottawa-Kent I-196/M-6 corridor growth will outstrip the Plymouth-Canton-Ann Arbor corridor (maybe already is). Rivertown Crossings alone makes three times the sales/square foot of any other General Growth property. That's straight from the horses mouth.

what do you mean by that because Canton township alone has 76k ppl and growing at a faster than alomst every area in metro GR (besides maybe alandale because that is small). I doubt georgetown or allandale tws. will ever get that big because we dont build with the density they build with in metro D. That said, look along 275, there are larger hotels and office building than you will find anywhere outside of DT GR and retail all along and then Ford ave. and MI ave. are 8 are larger and wider than rivertown, they might not have a rivertown crossings but they have about 10x everything else. Grandville is almost full and the way they are developing Georgetown twns, it will never look like that.

by the way I thought an IKEA was planned for the waterfall shoppes?

[torgo]

what do you mean by that because Canton township alone has 76k ppl and growing at a faster than alomst every area in metro GR (besides maybe alandale because that is small). I doubt georgetown or allandale tws. will ever get that big because we dont build with the density they build with in metro D. That said, look along 275, there are larger hotels and office building than you will find anywhere outside of DT GR and retail all along and then Ford ave. and MI ave. are 8 are larger and wider than rivertown, they might not have a rivertown crossings but they have about 10x everything else. Grandville is almost full and the way they are developing Georgetown twns, it will never look like that.

by the way I thought an IKEA was planned for the waterfall shoppes?

Yikes! gr8scott you should proofread that. I had to read it three times to figure out what the heck you were talking about!

I also think comparing metro D to metro GR is like apples and oranges.

[snoogit]

If they ever create a highway interchange at I-196 in the 48th Avenue area, look out! It would become the "West Beltline" of Metro GR running all the way up to Coopersville.

oh don't say that I puked a little in my mouth when I read that

[torgo]

oh don't say that I puked a little in my mouth when I read that

Snoogit, I think you should see a doctor. You seem to have a bad case of puking in your mouth. I hope you keep the certs handy!

[GRDadof3]

what do you mean by that because Canton township alone has 76k ppl and growing at a faster than alomst every area in metro GR (besides maybe alandale because that is small). I doubt georgetown or allandale tws. will ever get that big because we dont build with the density they build with in metro D. That said, look along 275, there are larger hotels and office building than you will find anywhere outside of DT GR and retail all along and then Ford ave. and MI ave. are 8 are larger and wider than rivertown, they might not have a rivertown crossings but they have about 10x everything else. Grandville is almost full and the way they are developing Georgetown twns, it will never look like that.

by the way I thought an IKEA was planned for the waterfall shoppes?

I don't think there are any pads left at Waterfall Shoppes. I could be wrong.

You're right about them having more population now, but I-275 Plymouth area exploded way back in the late 80's. All those office buildings along that stretch were there when I was in high school back in the 80's. I think it has plateau'd, similar to Southfield. Didn't I just read that Oakland County has now started to lose population?

I would be interested to see the stats on Townships. Metro Detroit is not growing, it is just spreading out. There's a difference.

[ninehigh]

GRDadof3,

I can't seem to PM you, so I hope that you read this. I am with Third Coast Development Partners, amongst other things, we're developing Mid-Towne Village (College and Michigan). Please get ahold of me so I can get you some info. on the development to throw on your post. Thanks!

-Max

[Phizzy]

Didn't I just read that Oakland County has now started to lose population?

It's not losing population, but growth has definitely slowed. About half of Oakland County's communities have lost population since 2000.

                                  2000       2004        Change

Oakland County 1,194,156 1,213,339 19,183 1.61%

Oakland charter township 13,071 16,146 3,075 23.53%

Lyon charter township 11,035 12,683 1,648 14.93%

Oxford charter township 16,025 18,101 2,076 12.95%

Holly township 10,037 11,269 1,232 12.27%

South Lyon city 10,042 11,017 975 9.71%

Novi city 47,386 51,934 4,548 9.60%

Commerce charter township 34,764 37,995 3,231 9.29%

Rochester city 10,467 11,217 750 7.17%

Springfield charter township 13,338 14,012 674 5.05%

White Lake charter township 28,219 29,631 1,412 5.00%

Highland charter township 19,169 20,114 945 4.93%

Auburn Hills city 19,837 20,737 900 4.54%

Addison township 6,439 6,714 275 4.27%

Independence charter township 32,581 33,962 1,381 4.24%

Brandon charter township 14,765 15,304 539 3.65%

Milford charter township 15,271 15,771 500 3.27%

Orion charter township 33,463 34,468 1,005 3.00%

Walled Lake city 6,713 6,877 164 2.44%

Groveland township 6,150 6,291 141 2.29%

Orchard Lake Village city 2,215 2,260 45 2.03%

Wixom city 13,263 13,514 251 1.89%

Rose township 6,210 6,324 114 1.84%

West Bloomfield charter township 64,860 65,493 633 0.98%

Rochester Hills city 68,825 69,480 655 0.95%

Troy city 80,959 81,432 473 0.58%

Waterford charter township 71,981 72,007 26 0.04%

Pontiac city 67,561 67,582 21 0.03%

Birmingham city 19,291 19,217 -74 -0.38%

Lathrup Village city 4,236 4,202 -34 -0.80%

Southfield city 78,296 77,491 -805 -1.03%

Lake Angelus city 326 322 -4 -1.23%

Keego Harbor city 2,769 2,727 -42 -1.52%

Farmington Hills city 82,111 80,787 -1,324 -1.61%

Southfield township 14,430 14,194 -236 -1.64%

Village of Clarkston city 962 945 -17 -1.77%

Berkley city 15,531 15,236 -295 -1.90%

Madison Heights city 31,101 30,510 -591 -1.90%

Ferndale city 22,105 21,666 -439 -1.99%

Bloomfield Hills city 3,940 3,860 -80 -2.03%

Bloomfield charter township 42,968 42,064 -904 -2.10%

Hazel Park city 18,963 18,553 -410 -2.16%

Northville city 3,352 3,277 -75 -2.24%

Sylvan Lake city 1,735 1,696 -39 -2.25%

Clawson city 12,732 12,443 -289 -2.27%

Oak Park city 29,793 29,074 -719 -2.41%

Royal Oak charter township 5,446 5,311 -135 -2.48%

Royal Oak city 60,062 58,573 -1,489 -2.48%

Huntington Woods city 6,151 5,998 -153 -2.49%

Novi township 193 188 -5 -2.59%

Farmington city 10,423 10,146 -277 -2.66%

Pleasant Ridge city 2,594 2,524 -70 -2.70%

[GRDadof3]

GRDadof3,

I can't seem to PM you, so I hope that you read this. I am with Third Coast Development Partners, amongst other things, we're developing Mid-Towne Village (College and Michigan). Please get ahold of me so I can get you some info. on the development to throw on your post. Thanks!

-Max

Max-

You need to have at least 10 posts to have PM abilities. I guess you'll just have to jump into the Project X mix. That'll get your score up.