### Re: Planet Dilemma?... I think it should be Dual. Here's Why.

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**Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:51 am**AllenGould wrote:I think:First, I seriously doubt there is any serious formula involving anything too complicated. It is probably more like a rule of thumb.

a) a step should have been "space, planet, or dual", as it is an important part of the dilemma, and there does seem to be ample interest in it;

and

b) the "secret formula" should be released - what benefit is there in hiding it anymore? (I'm actually surprised that no-one has reverse-engineered it yet). Would make discussions about cost a lot more productive if we knew why the number was picked in the first place.

My best guess is that the secret formula is something along the lines of:

Cost = Effect * % applicable

Here are some examples:

Cost of Pinned Down = Value Randomly Stopping A personnel *100% ~=~ 1.8

So Pinned Down costs 2

Cost of Kelvin Show of Force - Value Selectively Killing A Personnel * 100% ~=~ 5.2

So Kelvin Show of Force costs 5

Obviously, there is some amount of guess work involved in using this formula in the following examples:

Agonizing Encounter = Value of Randomly Stopping A Personnel * Average Agonizing Number * 100% ~=~ 1.8 *2.5 ~=~ 4.5

Here we estimate the average Agonizing Number to be 2.5. This is just a guess.

So Agonizing Encounter costs 4

Personnel Duty = Value of Randomly Stopping A personnel * (Average Number of Personnel Stopped) * 50% = 1.8 * (~8 personnel * ~270/660 - 1) * 50% ~=~ 2.045

So Personnel Duty costs 2

Here we assume you have 8 random personnel, and I have guesstimated from Altoid's site that roughly 270/660 have either Leadership or Officer. It is a space dilemma, so it only applies Half the time.

If DeckPADD worked on Macs, I would have a much easier time doing these examples

Here are some cases where the purposed formula fails to match

An Issue of Trust = Value of Randomly Stopping A personnel * (Average Number of Personnel Stopped) * 100% = 1.8 * (~8 Personnel * ~400/660 -1) * 100% ~=~ 6.92

Whoa! I think the designers did not realize exactly how many personnel had Honor or Treachery

Necessary Execution = (Value of Selective Killing One Personnel * 50% + Value of Selectively Killing Two Personnel * 50%) * 50% ~=~ 3.9

I standy by this one. I think 4 would be more appropriate, but then it would be practically strictly better than Pursuit Just Behind

I'll restart my computer and probably post more examples

EDIT #1: Changed the counts to reflect that randomly stopping a personnel should be valued at ~1.8 not ~2.