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FOX17 BUSINESS JOURNAL REPORT

Lots Of Interest

David Czurak

GRAND RAPIDS

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Interesting side note in this article is news on the Two West Fulton project.

Care to expound?

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Care to expound?

It's in the article. You don't need a membership to read the Fox 17 Business Journal Reports each week. I'll put something in the Two West Fulton thread too.

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It's in the article. You don't need a membership to read the Fox 17 Business Journal Reports each week. I'll put something in the Two West Fulton thread too.

"But the same cannot yet be said for the city-owned property at 201 Market Ave. SW. Those 15.8 acres, a key part of the controversial "mystery" development, went up for bid last month. But as of mid April, the city hadn't received a nibble on the riverfront property. The asking price for the land, known as the Public Works Island, is $35 million."

The article suggests that these RFP's are like term papers and developers won't respond until the due date. I would think, however, that if there was anyone interested they would be all over the city gathering information about the property. Not a nibble...hmmmm.

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"But the same cannot yet be said for the city-owned property at 201 Market Ave. SW. Those 15.8 acres, a key part of the controversial "mystery" development, went up for bid last month. But as of mid April, the city hadn't received a nibble on the riverfront property. The asking price for the land, known as the Public Works Island, is $35 million."

The article suggests that these RFP's are like term papers and developers won't respond until the due date. I would think, however, that if there was anyone interested they would be all over the city gathering information about the property. Not a nibble...hmmmm.

I saw that and thought about that too civitas, and decided to skip it. The issue becomes: if I'm a developer from out of State that MAY be shopping for land in other metro areas, this is a pretty large chunk of land (size and price). I would not only have to come up with a site plan and preliminary designs, I would also have to come up with at least an inkling of specific users who may also be shopping for a new locale. Who is that going to be? To do all that in two months seems like it would be very difficult. As we've said before, the downtown market could not support an additional "millions" of square feet of commercial and/or residential space on spec, and the banks would never finance it.

That's why I'm focusing my energies on other exciting things going on downtown. :thumbsup: Sorry to piss in anyone's Cheerios, but to hold out any hope for something for that land any time soon is fool-hearty, IMO. We might be talking a decade to have it developed, not two months.

But we might be getting a little off-topic...Maybe warrants a new one?

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^I think that piece of land went up for sale for a specific reason. When ever I see you guys write, "death to surface lots!" I always think about that Mad TV spoof of the Aljezera News network... :rofl:

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Nice Rizzo! :rofl:

Let's all observe a moment of silence for the following surface lots: :P

Lot behind the old Israel's Store where the Marriott is going up

Lot in front of the Rivertown Plaza Building where the expansion and new ramp are going

Lot near the Eberhard Center where the new Engineering School expansion is going

Lot where Icon on Bond is going

Lot West of where the Towers Medical Building is located (days are numbered)

Lot around the Burger King on Michigan (now a crater)

Lot where the new YMCA is on Pearl

Lot where Tall House is planned

2 Lots where the new theater and retail/residential projects are proposed

Lot between the BOB and 50 Monroe (have they closed on that yet?)

Lot where Bank of Holland now stands

Lot where VAI - Phase II will go

Lot where the Art Museum is going up (regardless of opinions of the architecture)

That's a major good start.

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As a bicyclist and a member of the Vespiti, this delights me no end.

I passed by a USA Today newsstand this morning, headline reading: "Drivers switch to public transit." Well, well, well. With a confluence of rising fuel prices and shrinking surface lots, maybe, just maybe, the lightbulb will light up above the collective heads of our benighted citizenry.

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Amen, GRDad. If they build it, great. But we development buffs have so much to look forward to in downtown right now that I have also taken the "show me the money" approach.

I personally can't wait 'til VAI II starts. I think the building is going to look incredible cascading down the Michigan hill. And it's taking out a parking lot and an ugly old school, so I am on topic :thumbsup:

That's why I'm focusing my energies on other exciting things going on downtown. :thumbsup: Sorry to piss in anyone's Cheerios, but to hold out any hope for something for that land any time soon is fool-hearty, IMO. We might be talking a decade to have it developed, not two months.

But we might be getting a little off-topic...Maybe warrants a new one?

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So begins the great Grand Rapids crusade against the surface lots... :D

viva la resistance!!!

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So begins the great Grand Rapids crusade against the surface lots... :D

viva la resistance!!!

Be careful dtown. You might get charged with "inciting a riot". People attacking blacktop and big chunks of asphalt might get bloody. :stop::rofl:

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So begins the great Grand Rapids crusade against the surface lots... :D

viva la resistance!!!

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Just as a teaser...

i have a little inside knowledge.

http://www.wohr.de

No guarantees, but there is some talk...

I will say no more.

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Just as a teaser...

i have a little inside knowledge.

http://www.wohr.de

No guarantees, but there is some talk...

I will say no more.

:blink::huh:

Wow.. those are interesting

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I believe people from GR talk about such things, but that's about it.

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Just as a teaser...

i have a little inside knowledge.

http://www.wohr.de

No guarantees, but there is some talk...

I will say no more.

Didn't civitas just show something like that on another thread?

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Didn't civitas just show something like that on another thread?

Yep.

New German parking solution (actually a VW new car holding facility).

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Wait, so its a rumor that people are interested in putting one of thoes things downtown? If I get to ride with my car in this contraption I would just come for the ride pay the money and have myself parked, that'd be cool.

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Yeah, it was supposed to go on Mark London's land in the Mystery project. But we all know how that went... :lol:

Anyone spreading that rumor around is high. :silly:

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