In 25 years, which city's skyline do you think your's will resemble?

[krazeeboi]

A lot of our cities have some major developments going on, including a number mid-rises and high-rises. So in 25 years, which city's skyline at present do you think your own will come to resemble, realistically speaking (not necessarily in terms of architecture, but in terms of height, density, etc.)? Some pics for comparison purposes would be nice.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Charlotte's skyline resembling that of Houston's in about a quarter of a century.

Charlotte

Houston

Columbia's may come to resemble Tulsa's.

Columbia

Tulsa

Hopefully Columbia won't continue with the "boxy" trend as much as Tulsa has.

[A2]

I sure hope Charlotte ends up looking a bit more like Boston with its extreme density. But realistically I think it will be almost identical to Atlanta today. Please do not throw any stones at me

I think that SouthPark and Uptown will bleed into one another down Park. South Blvd wll become the Peachtree of CLT. And of course we will have our own Midtown area where Grubb is currently developing.

I am hoping that this does not happen, but with the way the cities development patterns mirror one another it seems more than likely that it wll happen.

I lived in Atlanta when it the early eighties and it was essentially the size Charlotte is today. It has since Mushroomed into a Mega City and has Sprawled out all over North Georgia.

The one saving grace Charlotte has is the TOD plan amongst its 5 Transit Cooridors. I pray everyday that Charlotte will adhere STRICTLY to developing these cooridors in a manner that adheres to the cities own plan.

Just remember:

Money has a way of making development go where it wants. 485 once complete could be a serious detour for Uptown. People want to have a yard and a Large hose that is half the reason we have such a Northern Influx. It is not the high rise condo's that have made Charlotte so attractive, but rather the trees, great weather and strong Business climate that have attracted most.

Atlanta's development occured the same. People moved their for the Business climate, The Landscape and the wonderful satelite suburbs it offered.

The problem was that people started wanting to be close to work rather than deal with the congestion of 75-285-85, and 20. So what did they (big business)do they brought work to the suburbanites by building satelite cities that rim the loop creating a huge sprwaling mess.

I still have a partial bone in my body for ATL, it is just that I really would like to see Charlotte develop much more differently. I prefer a Seattle, Boston, or Philly type of city, over say a Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta. That is me. I am sure others might want the latter. I just happen to be partial to density a la NYC.

A2

Edited May 1, 2006 by A2

[krazeeboi]

I honestly don't think Charlotte will have clusters of skyscrapers throughout the city/area that can essentially rival that of the CBD. Uptown Charlotte will be where the largest concentration of towers will be by a wide margin; again, I think Houston is appropriate because its auxiliary or satellite skylines don't even come close to rivaling the CBD's skyline.

[A2]

I honestly don't think Charlotte will have clusters of skyscrapers throughout the city/area that can essentially rival that of the CBD. Uptown Charlotte will be where the largest concentration of towers will be by a wide margin; again, I think Houston is appropriate because its auxiliary or satellite skylines don't even come close to rivaling the CBD's skyline.

What about South Park??? Do you not see a new Height being introduced because of the High demand, but lack of Land? Ever since I have lived in SP (which has been less than 18months) I have seen Piedmont, Morrison, and SP villiage u/c or near completion. Plus there are many other projects yet to come on line (ie Novare tower(s)). I think in twenty+ years SP might actually have its own unique skyline. Nothing rivaling Houston's medical district, but definately something of height and density clustered around the mall.

Plus I think Midtown will really start to pop once Grubb and Pappas are in full swing.

I agree w/you about the comparison with Houston though. I think CLT will not rival Houston with its distinct sklines, but rather more of an Atlanta with various pods of development outside of the CBD.

A2

Edited May 1, 2006 by A2

[krazeeboi]

As of right now, South Park is the only area outside of the CBD that I could see having a nice skyline with good height. By that time, I would imagine that SouthEnd and Midtown would begin to blend with Uptown for a more expansive, yet centrally located skyline. At most, Charlotte would only resemble Atlanta in the downtown ATL/midtown ATL respect. Atlanta has at least two other significant clusters of towers, Buckhead and Perimeter; I'm not seeing this occurring in Charlotte within the next 25 years (although I most certainly could be wrong). I think Charlotte's skyline will remain compact for the most part, resembling Houston (or possibly even Dallas) more than Atlanta.

[triadcat]

As of right now, South Park is the only area outside of the CBD that I could see having a nice skyline with good height. By that time, I would imagine that SouthEnd and Midtown would begin to blend with Uptown for a more expansive, yet centrally located skyline. At most, Charlotte would only resemble Atlanta in the downtown ATL/midtown ATL respect. Atlanta has at least two other significant clusters of towers, Buckhead and Perimeter; I'm not seeing this occurring in Charlotte within the next 25 years (although I most certainly could be wrong). I think Charlotte's skyline will remain compact for the most part, resembling Houston (or possibly even Dalls) more than Atlanta.

I agree. Sure Charlotte will see more sprawl outside of it's CBD, but it's CBD is very compact and it seems they want to keep developing in a compact fashion.

[A2]

As of right now, South Park is the only area outside of the CBD that I could see having a nice skyline with good height. By that time, I would imagine that SouthEnd and Midtown would begin to blend with Uptown for a more expansive, yet centrally located skyline. At most, Charlotte would only resemble Atlanta in the downtown ATL/midtown ATL respect. Atlanta has at least two other significant clusters of towers, Buckhead and Perimeter; I'm not seeing this occurring in Charlotte within the next 25 years (although I most certainly could be wrong). I think Charlotte's skyline will remain compact for the most part, resembling Houston (or possibly even Dalls) more than Atlanta.

I sure as heck hope so.

I would point out two distinct possibilities for "mini-skylines". Again just food for though since we are talking 20-25 years:

Ballantyne.

Northlake.

Concord Mills Blvd

Something screems Perimeter to me. I am keeping fingers crossed that this does not happen though for any of those exits.

A2

[krazeeboi]

You do have a point with those. If that does happen, I may very well have to say Atlanta.

[NCB]

I really have no idea what New Orleans' skyline will look like in 5 years, much less 25 years. The city will already have a new tallest in a couple of years with Trump Tower, and multiple 20-30 story towers have already been proposed and approved for the city after Katrina. And there's talk all over the city about condo towers(especially those in the 30-40 story range) lining the river, after the Port of New Orleans released 4 acres of prime real estate land along the river. And, there's been talk around the city of possibly bringing back an old 55 story tower proposed for the city in the mid 80's and using it as a residential tower project, and a possible 900+ foot tower in the works that could be made public in the next few months.

Real Estate and condo experts have said that if the residential high-rise projects start coming into downtown as they are expected to, the skyline could stretch out much further, be much taller, and be even more dense in the coming years.

[johnnydr87]

Hmm.....I'd say Tulsa for Little Rock also.

But's hard to say..... Little Rock's downtown is essentially split into two, with more and more development going to North Little Rock.

The new Traveler's baseball stadium will be on the north side of the river, making all the major sports played in North Little Rock (Alltel Arena [sEC women's tourney, RimRockers, etc] and Burns Park [soccer tourney]).

Dickey Stephens Park, North Little Rock, with view of LR skyline

North Little Rock has slowly been taking some of the spotlight away from Little Rock.

Hopefully, Little Rock will get more dense, because its downtown right now is pockholed with parking lots and the like. The skyline is fairly spread out:

Little Rock's skyline is fairly boxy too. I'd like some curves.

In that first pic, there is some urban infilling going on with a 19 story condo going in front of the tallest tower.

This is a pic from skirby, and you can see it is behind those buildings in the first pic:

But these types of developments aren't coming by that quickly, and though they're tall....they're not true skyscrapers and have little effect on the skyline.

I'm hoping Little Rock gets some sort of major skyscraper in the next ten years...because at the pace we've been going the past few years we'll be getting lots of mid-highrises, but no true skyscrapers. At the very least, it will make for good urban infill and replace some of those parking lots.

Edited May 1, 2006 by johnnydr87

[dimebag1980]

I'd like to say Shreveport's skyline would be hugely different in 25 years but I really just don't know. There will likely be only one more casino hotel built... and if so, it would be an exact twin tower which has been proposed for the Horseshoe Casino. It would be another gold, all-glass 26-floor tower. The 14-story Hilton Convention Center hotel is currently under construction, but that's really all there is officially on the boards right now. I would love to see a shift occur in this are before the suburbs grow too much. High-rise condo towers would definitely be the way to go, but the height and amount would be anyone's guess. As much as I hate to admit it, unless something changes, I don't see it looking too much larger in 25 years than it does right now. I'd love to think I'm wrong, but I suppose only time will tell.

[krazeeboi]

I was thinking Tulsa for Little Rock as well. OKC may be a possibility as well:

Looks similar to Tulsa's but seems to be a bit more dense (even though this angle doesn't really show it).

Edited May 1, 2006 by krazeeboi

[CapeFearRiver10]

This is my opinon of NC major cities will look like 25 years from now.

1. Asheville will look like a smaller Pheonix, AZ

2. Winston-Salem will soon look similiar to Oklahoma City, OK.

3. Greensboro will look like Omaha, NE.

4. Durham turns into Tulsa, OK.

5. Raleigh will look similiar to Birmingham, AL

6. Fayetteville will look like Jackson, MS.

7. Wilmington will soon look like Wilmington, DE.

8. High Point becomes mirror image of Lynchburg, VA.

9. Southern Pines could like Rockford, IL.

I came up with thes projections because I feel 25 years from now 15.5 to 16.5 million people will be living in NC.

[MR-2]

Raleigh could go many ways. The architecture of the six new tall buildings will determine a lot. The way I see it, the linear layout with four 30+ floor buildings separated by a couple blocks will make it look like the beotch stepchild of Atlanta and Asheville.

Hopefully someone will come along and build something >40 floors between RBC Centura and Wachovia's towers. That would look good.

I predict Durham will take on an Austin reminiscent look.

I'm thinking Charlotte will look like Dallas, with a concentrated core that isn't rivalled by anything else in the city. That isn't complete though, because the tallest building in Charlotte will likely still have a spire.

Winston-Salem... probably Tulsa. Probably more dense, but when I think about it in my head, all I really see is that 50-floor building.

Greensboro... Birmingham

Edited May 1, 2006 by MR-2

[TBurban]

Since nobody has mentioned any VA cities, I thought Id be the first

Norfolk will be geared more towards a Charlotte skyline. With the addition of Granby, Hoffler, and Trader. the three giants that Norfolk is now holding in their hands. Trader (under construction) and Granby and Hoffler in the planning phases.

Richmond with the announcement of a new 20-story tower and 26 story tower in one day, and an expansion of 12 floors to an already 14 story tower. This was all announced today in the Times Dispatch. They planned the expansion of James Center. Lets not forget Centennial, the two twin towers that could reach as high as 50 floors each. Richmond, will be developed into a more Atlanta Downtown skyline.

[krazeeboi]

Well, since it seems like Richmond is getting some height to go along with its density, I would think that its skyline would come to resemble Baltimore's more than Atlanta's, especially considering that both Baltimore and Richmond are situated along bodies of water:

Edited May 1, 2006 by krazeeboi

[TBurban]

Baltimore works too

Edited May 1, 2006 by TBurban

[shane453]

OKC's gonna look like Hong Kong I think. Mountains, ocean and all.

Just kidding.

I'm thinking a few new residential towers by then, an office tower or two, tons of new development in the new space between downtown and the relocated I-40 along the new boulevard, quite a few hotels...

I just don't know what city it will look like, exactly. We don't really have a single style that you can pin to us- Glassy and blue like Dallas/Houston, some boxy ones like everyone else... I really can't predict what OKC's new skyscrapers will look like.

[Newnan]

What do you think the larger city skylines like Atlanta's will look like

[krazeeboi]

It's kinda hard to say. I know that Atlanta is throwing up towers left and right, but will they fill in the gaps between downtown, Midtown, and Buckhead, or will they just add more density to those existing clusters? If the former, then perhaps we'll see Atlanta come to resemble Chicago in a way. If the latter, then just a bigger version of what it already is.

[krazeeboi]

OKC's gonna look like Hong Kong I think. Mountains, ocean and all.I'm thinking a few new residential towers by then, an office tower or two, tons of new development in the new space between downtown and the relocated I-40 along the new boulevard, quite a few hotels...

I just don't know what city it will look like, exactly. We don't really have a single style that you can pin to us- Glassy and blue like Dallas/Houston, some boxy ones like everyone else... I really can't predict what OKC's new skyscrapers will look like.

I'd go with Cincinatti:

[wrldcoupe4]

I think Richmond becoming more like Baltimore's is a good fit. We could use a landmark tower like other cities have announced at some point too.

[lammius]

I think Richmond becoming more like Baltimore's is a good fit. We could use a landmark tower like other cities have announced at some point too.

I've always thought Baltimore & Norfolk have some uncanny similarities, especially when comparing Inner Harbor & Waterside

[A2]

What do you think the larger city skylines like Atlanta's will look like

Houston. No question.

A2

[krazeeboi]

Houston. No question.

A2

Actually, I think it might only take 10-15 years for Atlanta to start resembling present-day Houston. In 25 years though, I wouldn't be surprised to see Atlanta beginning to resemble Chicago, seriously--if the gaps between downtown, midtown, and Buckhead get filled in.

Edited May 1, 2006 by krazeeboi