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Heard a rumor this weekend (not sure how credible the source is), but they referenced Epicentre may be getting a retail store (soft goods)...specifically stating Enso's old location.  It's been quite awhile since Enso closed and it's a prime location on the 1st level.  Hope to see some movement on it soon.  

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I can't remember which store the guy mentioned was going into Enso but it was clothing retailer. But it makes sense though that the owners of epi want to do this. There was an article a a year or two ago "is bottle service dying" basically saying clubs aren't as popular as they used to be. Imo, I think there's just a lot more to do now a days. Breweries, restaurants, concerts/festivals, etc. I'm not saying eliminate all the clubs but I think the epicentre is designed to be utilized throughout the day, but when half the epicentre are clubs, means half the places in the epicentre are closed during the day. Hopefully this also means the renovations and repairs are on the way too. 

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1 hour ago, ES Charlotte said:

Can't confirm it's a reliable source, but...

Suite is closing, Kandy is closing, Vault is on it's way out, Dale is fed up with BMG at Whiskey, and I believe I might be missing one more closing.

Bubble will be a Foot Locker, Lebrettos will be another pizza joint, and the new owners are pushing family friendly restaurants and soft goods hard. 

Foot locker?!? You’ve got to be kidding me!!

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Epi is a sinking ship. Howl and Mortimers probably won’t last much longer either. But if they can maintain WoB, Tin Roof and bring in 1 more good bar, with Bowlero and a bunch of clothing retail, it’s acrually a good mix. 

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I think they need to limit the clubs to the upper level and have retail on the bottom floors... epicenter really only needs two or three bars/clubs... there are so many other nightclubs in uptown and music factory...

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Echoing many folks' sentiments, the epi has great potential as it ages, it just needs more 24 hour options (soft goods would be cool), and it couldn't hurt to have more residential around it (though that's likely impossible given the office/sports/transit/hotel monopoly [polyopoly?] around it).

Just like any other city development, it's all in how it can accommodate change. Tenants come and go, but the built environment's bones stay the same.

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Suite has a had a long run! But if they are closing, the next tnenat will have the best balcony space in the whole epicentre. Howl has always been busy everytime I've walked passed it (weekend) and I enjoy cover music so I hope it doesn't go. Surprised SMG has lasted this long, but as the only movie theater uptown it probably does okay. 

I have always thought that if that high end condo tower would have been built where the new hotel is currently, it would have changed the narrative for epicentre retail. I think it would have been more of the kind of retail that they are looking to turn it into now. 

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One thing I would add to this conversation is that with all the hotels around the Epicenter really 5 the Ritz, the Omni, the aloft,  and the dual brand AC and Residence Inn by Marriott  that is a lot of guests any given day.  The number one thing people like to do out of town is eat out and shop.  Uptown Charlotte has been very weak on the soft goods side so as many soft good retailers they could attract here would benefit all of uptown and the tourist market. 

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1 hour ago, saamh said:

I think they need to limit the clubs to the upper level and have retail on the bottom floors... epicenter really only needs two or three bars/clubs... there are so many other nightclubs in uptown and music factory...

There aren’t any other night clubs uptown other than what’s in epi. MAYBE Queen City social lol 

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16 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

There aren’t any other night clubs uptown other than what’s in epi. MAYBE Queen City social lol 

There’s Ink n Ivy, that’s sort of like a nightclub, I even think they do bottle service too... also that club on top of the meridian. Also, I think Suite will probably convert into another themed nightclub, I live in Miami now and I see this all the time with clubs down here... after a couple of years the owners will rebrand the club to keep it fresh, probably the same thing is going on in Charlotte 

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10 hours ago, Jayvee said:

There aren’t any other night clubs uptown other than what’s in epi. MAYBE Queen City social lol 

Not including any places with bottle service, You've still got Dandelion Market, Roxbury and Prohibition close by if people are looking to go out and dance.

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A decade ago, if you wanted to listen to music with a DJ, it had to be your traditional night club like Forum, Alley Cats, Crush, Suite, etc.  But now, basically any nice restaurant creates a lounge-y, nightclub experience, some even provide bottle service: Ink n Ivy, Sip, Merchant n Trade...then there's Vapiano, 5 Church, I think even 204 North, City Lights, Coin Bar all have Djs after-hours/weekends.  The trend has changed slightly over the years and it shows that people like more of the social aspect of it.  I still think clubs are good and have their own purpose, but it explains why they are less popular now a days...just so many different options.

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CityFlop I mean Cityfair was the biggest boondoggle in Charlotte recent history.  But today is a different day and hopefully Epicenter could add some retailers in these upcoming vacancies.    Foot Locker is a start for sure.  Is there even a single shoe store uptown now? 

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10 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

CityFlop I mean Cityfair was the biggest boondoggle in Charlotte recent history.  But today is a different day and hopefully Epicenter could add some retailers in these upcoming vacancies.    Foot Locker is a start for sure.  Is there even a single shoe store uptown now? 

There used to be that "highend/speciality" shoe store at the Epicentre where the old Vape store was...right below WOB.  The first store as you get off the light rail on the left (before you turn the corner to CVS).  I forget the name but I think a Footlocker will be a better fit because it offers a wide range of shoes (casual, running, sports, etc)...not just specialty sneakers.  Uptown has a lot of marathons, various walks, and active residents...I think it will do well.

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1 minute ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

There used to be that "highend/speciality" shoe store at the Epicentre where the old Vape store was...right below WOB.  The first store as you get off the light rail on the left (before you turn the corner to CVS).  I forget the name but I think a Footlocker will be a better fit because it offers a wide range of shoes (casual, running, sports, etc)...not just specialty sneakers.  Uptown has a lot of marathons, various walks, and active residents...I think it will do well.

I’m sorry but I will have to disagree 110%. Putting a foot locker at the epicenter is going to be the nail in it’s coffin.  That complex needs places like Apple, H&M,  maybe one of the locally owned men’s clothing stores that sell suits etc, maybe a gift shop, etc.  something that caters to everyone. Foot locker doesn’t cater to everyone, and it gives off a very “hood” vibe. 

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I'm still trying to figure out how Apple stores cater to "everyone". They sell laptops that start at $1,000 and phones in the hundreds of dollars. Their stores are strategically located in shopping malls and districts with high household incomes. There is a reason iPhone customers have a median income of $85,000 versus the general population median income of around ~$55,000. Android customers have a median income of ~$61,000. Apple often even boasts on their annual reports how their target customers are the upper middle class and affluent (who have high disposable income to buy new phones over and over and over every time a new version comes out).

Most stores have a target demographic to occupy a niche in the retail world. Few are going to appeal to "everyone." 

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8 minutes ago, CLT2014 said:

I'm still trying to figure out how Apple stores cater to "everyone". They sell laptops that start at $1,000 and phones in the hundreds of dollars. Their stores are strategically located in shopping malls and districts with high household incomes. There is a reason iPhone customers have a median income of $85,000 versus the general population median income of around ~$55,000. Android customers have a median income of ~$61,000. Apple often even boasts on their annual reports how their target customers are the upper middle class and affluent (who have high disposable income to buy new phones over and over and over every time a new version comes out).

Most stores have a target demographic to occupy a niche in the retail world. Few are going to appeal to "everyone." 

My statement wasn’t necessarily income driven. It was moreso for the taste and clientele.  Foot locker draws a very trashy crowd. It’s like putting a KFC or McDonald’s in the epicenter.  

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2 minutes ago, Temeteron said:

My statement wasn’t necessarily income driven. It was moreso for the taste and clientele.  Foot locker draws a very trashy crowd. It’s like putting a KFC or McDonald’s in the epicenter.  

Then I would just call it like it is. Your preference would be retailers that draw a upper middle class and affluent clientele... which does not equal everyone. 

Uptown has a high household income so it could be a candidate for an Apple store. I just wouldn't say it is a store for "everyone."

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