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Don't lie. You started this with your one word answer of "Republicans".

You said "republicans" were the cause behind slow progress.

Does that work mean something different to you than everyone else?

Goodness gracious.

I replied to his nonsense with an equal amount of nonsense.

He called democrats socialists, which is outrageous, and I called republicans Nazis, which is also outrageous.

Back to the topic please... :offtopic:

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Goodness gracious.

I replied to his nonsense with an equal amount of nonsense.

He called democrats socialists, which is outrageous, and I called republicans Nazis, which is also outrageous.

Back to the topic please... :offtopic:

Next time if you want a thread to stay on topic I would suggest you stop playing games by injecting your politics into a discussion.

Thanks

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Next time if you want a thread to stay on topic I would suggest you stop playing games by injecting your politics into a discussion.

Thanks

Yes because you brought up politics first. Thanks bud.

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Like Cajun has already said, you started this foolishness. If you are going to deny it you would think you would have the common sense to go back and delete your inflammatory post that started this.

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Like Cajun has already said, you started this foolishness. If you are going to deny it you would think you would have the common sense to go back and delete your inflammatory post that started this.

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I wonder why it takes so long for things to get done in Baton Rouge.

True things run too slow; BR is 10-15 years behind w/ Interstate's & roads...however this thread title "Plan BR" got plenty done in just over the ten years it was implemented....Planetarium, State Bldgs consolidation; Shaw Center for the Arts; numerous renovations including the Hilton & Hotel Indigo; LaState Museum,etc ....over a $Billion in investment in that period...the economy is not helping.

DDD Commission Meeting

Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 8:00 a.m.

Louisiana Art and Science Museum, 100 River Road South

AGENDA

1. Call to Order

2. Declare Quorum

3. Approve Agenda

4. Approve May 8th, 2012 Minutes

5. Board Action

6. Update from Previous Board Meeting

a. Governmental Issues

  • Riverfront Development
  • 2010 FHWA Recreational Trails Grant
  • River Center Branch Library

    b. Development Initiatives
    • North Boulevard Town Square Update
    • Repentance Park Update
    • One Stop Homeless Services
    • Design Resource Center/DDD New Offices
    • Downtown Walking Tour Recap
    • New Business Announcements
      o 431 Third Street
      o Bald Eagle Pub
      o Restaurant IPO
    • Events
      o FUMC Cambodia Craft Sale - June 10
      o Sunday in the Park - June 10, 17, 24 & July 1
      o Kress Gallery Opening Reception - June 14
      o Capitol Park Museum - Night at the Louisiana State Museum - June 16
      o Juneteenth - June 16
      o Young Band Nation Summer Music Series- June 22 and June 29
      o July 4th Events
      o LASM - International Planetarium Society Conference
      o Manship Theatre Events / LSU MOA
      o Old Governor's Mansion
      o River Center Events

    7. Strategic Plan

    a. Plan Baton Rouge II

    8. Ongoing Projects

    [*]CPEX

    [*]BREADA

    9. Correspondence

    10. Public Comment

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Anyone know what this St Philip promenade is going to be like? I imagine it's running between the Old state Capitol and the Library/Music hall.

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I like everything but the four pole lights. I was involved with projects that included those things 10 years ago. They wash out everything near them if they are in your line of sight at night. A more subtle fixture that doesn't blind anyone would have been better.....or make them very tall or very dim.

Haha...the rendering includes a log and dead grass alongside the river and at a cyclist driving illegally (using the sidewalk instead of the access ramp) for that extra touch of Baton Rouge realty.

....okay cyclists ignoring laws maybe a worldwide trend. On second glance it looks like the cyclists will have to share a sidewalk with pedestrians to access this ramp. Kind of a safety hazard, no?

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I like everything but the four pole lights. I was involved with projects that included those things 10 years ago. They wash out everything near them if they are in your line of sight at night. A more subtle fixture that doesn't blind anyone would have been better.....or make them very tall or very dim.

Haha...the rendering includes a log and dead grass alongside the river and at a cyclist driving illegally (using the sidewalk instead of the access ramp) for that extra touch of Baton Rouge realty.

....okay cyclists ignoring laws maybe a worldwide trend. On second glance it looks like the cyclists will have to share a sidewalk with pedestrians to access this ramp. Kind of a safety hazard, no?

I like this project and think it will be a great addition to downtown. I use the Florida crossing to access the levee path and lets just say, it's not easy or safe right now for cyclists or pedestrians.

 

 

I would tend to agree with you regarding the light beacons. However they will serve has a great way-finding tool at the terminus of Florida. 

 

I also giggled at the rendering, they "enhanced" the color of the grass along the levee but chose to ignore the grass near the river, when in fact, all of the grass is more of the brown color! They also added some pelicans, haha! 

 

Riding a bike along the levee path downtown is dangerous, there are no designated travel lanes and a lot of leisurely pedestrians, which I think is great, however not great when cyclists and pedestrians are sharing a path. The path from LSU to Downtown is only used by runners, not leisurely pedestrians, so sharing the path is very easy. 

 

I believe the DDD is trying to resolve this issue though, by looking at their planned paths, I think they are hoping to bring the cyclists off the levee just south of the belle, through downtown on a true bike path, and link back up with the levee near the planned Desoto Park, which leaves the downtown levee safer for pedestrians who are just hanging out. 

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I'd rather see them off the pavers on the downtown levee and routed somewhere else like you suggested.

With cyclists, you can build all the trails and signage you want....they will break the rules.

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I'd rather see them off the pavers on the downtown levee and routed somewhere else like you suggested.

With cyclists, you can build all the trails and signage you want....they will break the rules.

 

 I think everyone tends to break the "rules"  :shades:

 

 

Bikes on the sidewalks.

 

Pedestrians walking in the street.

 

Cars parked on sidewalks/yards/ROW.

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I think everyone tends to break the "rules" :shades:

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Yet there's only one vehicle type that eats up capacity on the road (or sidewalk) while not contributing tax dollars, registration fees, and are not required to carry insurance. No other vehicle can lawfully operate in public spaces with such little accountability or responsibility. Cars get ticketed, and are required to operate in conjunction with certain levels of liability insurance. I've never seen a cyclist ticketed or held accountable for injuries or destruction of property caused by their own negligence. The few laws that do regulate all vehicles (including bikes) are not enforced equally.

When my wife and I ride, we use a bike specific recreational trail paid for out of public funding for recreation and parks.....because that is how cycles are realistically used. It's unsafe to use public streets (especially in metro ATL) as a substitute for a gym. Baton Rouge needs more bike trails like the ones on the levee- fully separate from regulated vehicle traffic.

The levee trail in Baton Rouge is a great start....but it needs to be extended as far as possible, with clearly marked lanes for bikes and pedestrians like the section around the LSU Vet school. The pavers on the levee in Baton Rouge are not safe as a "free for all", IMO because of the slippery surface and existance of light poles and benches. It's clearly intended as a pedestrian zone north of the Belle casino. With respect to downtown, the bike path needs to be moved from the levee.

The trail head design, while visually appealing in some respects (not including those hideous stick lights) mixes pedestrian zones with bicycle zones. To me, that's both irresponsible an short sighted- with respect to bike traffic- as if both city planners and the project architect are not bike or pedestrian people.

We need a trail head there but we don't need a crappy one. If public funding is going to this, it should be done right. It will be there for decades, after all. I think the bike trail should be moved to the foot of the levee, separate from the street and levee top sidewalk between the Capitol and the I-10 bridge....using asphalt instead of brick pavers. It would be easier to connect those paths with the other area projects from there as well.

I'd like to also see a trail head (a basic one similar to the one at the Vet School with lighting and a cleaned up batture) at Brightside, Gardere, Gourrier, under the I-10 bridge, and possibly near McKinley after they shut down and dismantle the sewer treatment facility there.

I hope that paved levee trail can be extended incrementally all the way to New Orleans. Those levees are drawbacks in so many ways but a continuous bike trail would be a unique way to use it to our advantage in ways few other places can while helping unite the city with the riverfront.

In many ways, the trail head at Bertman separated the modes of transit in a good, visually appealing way. It could use some landscaping and nicer signage but I doubt the levee board will go for that. I still think it's the functional benchmark for level trail heads. I would like to see the batteres cleaned up and maintained as a park when the water is low throughout EBR where possible. Maybe they even add some seasonal trails down there where there is room.

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Repentance Park, leadership and management net DDD national awards

 

Officials from the DDD are in New York City today to accept two awards from the International Downtown Association—one for excellence in downtown leadership and management, the other for the $3.9 million renovation of Repentance Park, which was completed this spring near the Old State Capitol and City Hall. "These awards are a great honor and reiterative of the renaissance occurring in downtown Baton Rouge," says DDD Executive Director Davis Rhorer. "The support of Mayor-President Kip Holden and the Metro Council has been instrumental in the realization of the projects recommended in our master plans and the national recognition Baton Rouge continues to receive." The Washington, D.C.-based IDA is a champion for vital and livable urban centers. It has 550 member chapters. The awards are being presented at the organization's annual conference. The DDD is receiving the excellence in downtown leadership award for its guidance and support over the past two decades in several major planning initiatives aimed at transforming downtown. The award for Repentance Park is given in the category of public spaces and recognizes capital improvements that have enhanced the urban design, physical function or economic viability of a downtown district. —Stephanie Riegel

 

http://www.businessreport.com/section/daily-reportAM&date=20131007

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Any idea when this will be built along the riverfront at Baton Rouge Landing?

 

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* pic courtesy of WHLC architecture

 

http://www.whlarchitecture.com/projects/masterplanning/02-053/index.shtml

I think we can look forward to seeing something happen this year along with the Greenway. I also look forward to see a design that is functional.

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Not a real fan of this ugly design...looks like a nice gust of wind will send it flying away....just thought somebody may have known when this was happening.

 

I have an idea...instead of the ugly design going on the riverfront...lets put it at the lakes in front of the new Woman's hospital...in the new downtown St. George :whistling:  

 

79% of the Green Light Plan street improvement projects have gone to the proposed St. George...

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79% of the Green Light Plan street improvement projects have gone to the proposed St. George...

....who pay parish taxes and will continue to pay parish taxes, sewer fees, and for their own fire district regardless of incorporation.

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