Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

mjcatl2

Developer has big plans for North Shore complex

13 posts in this topic


Yeah it will probably be full of chains but... COULD they fill with local venues if they tried? I have a feeling they wouldn't be able to fill it, and if they did they'd get a lot of places relocating from within the region. So it may seem kind of cookie cutter, but I would rather have a nice cookie-cutter development than nothing at all. And nothing is exactly what's there right now. So I am 90% happy with this plan.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well as when this came up before - chains aside (and they aren't evil) - my biggest concern is - is this just sucking people away from Station Square or from local places on the Southside or wherever?

How much can be sustained? That said, it makes sense to have choices pre and post games and for the Northside workers and residents... guests the hotel(s) etc.

It's just working out the right mix.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah that is one thing I wonder about. How many places like this can we support? Will less people go to Station Square if this is built? I guess it helps that there will be residential and office space nearby so there will always be a customer base.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would rather have a more "authentic" development with local Pittsburgh flavor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would rather have a more "authentic" development with local Pittsburgh flavor.

I'm sure we all would, but how? I suppose they could create some incentives for local developers to build in that area, and for local businesses to locate there... But I have a feeling we'd see a lot of businesses moving from other parts of the region, rather than new businesses opening. But maybe this Live! development will attract some local businesses to open up nearby.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Now we can be just like Louisville!

Nah, Louisville is a consolidated metroplex, something Pittsburgh seems to never be able to pull off, oh hey look at that the start of this post is in one of the 190 municipalities and the end of it is in another! :P

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did anyone else notice that the reporter here left out the WHEN? Maybe I missed it but there is no detail (even ballpark) about when this development is hoped to get started and planned for completion. C'mon PG inquiring minds want to know.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


I do believe this will definitely impact Station Square, because it will be catering to the same types. I feel this is only logical as the North Shore just has a better relation to the river front, with a large park and a one of kind promenade that showcases the city like never before. Where Station Square will always have to contend with the rails that separate it from the water. I could see Station Square becoming more family oriented, with the Gateway Clipper and the inclines etc. and still mainatin a steady tourist trade while the North Shore would attract the more generic college age crowd and yuppy types. I don't think it will impact The Strip or the South Side as they attract people more into the variety that only comes with local/smaller business mixed with larger clubs and the arts. Downtown will have a more sophisticated palette.

I'm sorry, but Station Square has held on to that vast prime real estate along the river for too long with little development. The new fountain plaza with Hard Rock etc. is too little too late. They have relied on their "connections" too much with little innovative thinking. They have put all their eggs in one basket with the casino hopes and perhaps thought would strong arm their future as the fore front. They've had 30 years to generate a complete neighborhood around their central core and have been stagnant.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, I guess there should be no concern for Station Square. Who are we kidding? They, no doubt, will get the casino bid.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One problem that Station Square could never really surmont is that it is "Station" Square, there are rail lines that are still heavily used by CSX I believe. The glass and steel ped walkway and marina were good additions to the Square, but there will always be a "wall" between the entertainment and the river, some things about Big Steel we won't ever lose.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Chevy Ampitheatre next to Station Square sucks. It's got terrible accoustics and it's right next to passing freight trains, and it's just a tent in a parking lot. But it's nothing more than a place holder for the actual development planned for it's site. No one will feel hurt by a "competing" venue on the North Shore, they'll be more than happy to take it down and build a casion and/or condos once the bids are settled.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The article in (Friday's?) PG even addresses that . . . Station Square is looking for a way to redevelop the ampitheater, realizing it will never be a great spot for a concert venue, plus wasn't there a lawsuit a few years back by residents on Mt. Washington about the noise floor that rushes up the hill during concerts?

Again I can't seem to find any time horizons for the NS development, be under way by ASG or NFL season?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.