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krazeeboi Gigalopolis

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It looks as if actual restructuring efforts are getting off to a somewhat rocky start. The Senate only managed to get a resolution passed that would consider just ONE office becoming an appointed position: the comptroller general. It was the only one out of six that got the 31 votes needed to advance so as to be placed on the 2008 ballot (and supposedly, that one only got passed just because he

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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You mean they actually recorded a vote for once!? Fantastic. I'm glad to know that my senator as at least doing the right thing. And even McConnell is voting the right way. Maybe I'm too hard on him. At least the comptroller general is going to be on the ballot. Thats one very small step in the right direction. And since SC always votes YES for any amendment on the ballot, I have no doubt that this one will get approved.

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krazeeboi Gigalopolis

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Here's a portion of someone's letter to the editor in today's edition of The State:

I read that the S.C. Senate voted to deny the voters of South Carolina the opportunity (with the exception of comptroller general) to decide how certain constitutional offices should be selected.

The question before the senators was not to decide which offices should be elected or appointed; it was to decide whether the voters should be allowed to make that decision. In other words, the voters were pre-empted by their senators from having a voice on the question.

I never thought about it like that; does the guy have a point?

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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This is why I like Mark Sanford. He disgrees with this bill not because of the content but because he doesn't think its the state's responsibility to meddle in the affairs of local government. If you're going to pass a law like this it should affect the entire state, not just one entity in one county. This is yet another example of the unbalanced government structure in SC.
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monsoon Gigalopolis

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This is why I like Mark Sanford. He disgrees with this bill not because of the content but because he doesn't think its the state's responsibility to meddle in the affairs of local government. If you're going to pass a law like this it should affect the entire state, not just one entity in one county. This is yet another example of the unbalanced government structure in SC.

What am I missing here. He signed the bill into law. That is the real test of what he thinks about it.

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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My point is that his opinion is the best approach, and that he continues to advocate it. As you know metro, you have to pick your political battles in SC, and that one isn't worth fighting. The legislature would probably have overridden a veto anyway. Sanford is known for standing up to them when its necessary.

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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I just wanted to share with you about Spartanburg and its political clout for a moment. As you probably know, the Upstate is becoming nationally known as a stronghold of conservatism. South Carolina may be an important primary, but to win statewide elections in South Carolina you HAVE to win the Upstate. Mark Sanford proved this last election, when he was slightly down or tied with Tommy Moore.... until Spartanburg and Greenville's votes started rolling in towards the end of the day. And to that end, Spartanburg has become a major stopping point for national candidates in the Republican Party. John McCain is making a stop next week followed by Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney, and they have stopped by many times before (as have other candidates). Expect around 2,000 people to come to town for the event. Even further, Duncan Hunter (R-CA) felt that Spartanburg was the place to announce his candidacy for president! (Yeah I've never heard of him either, but it still speaks well for the city)

Here is the article in the Herald-Journal about McCain's visit, if you're interested.

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I just wanted to share with you about Spartanburg and its political clout for a moment. As you probably know, the Upstate is becoming nationally known as a stronghold of conservatism. South Carolina may be an important primary, but to win statewide elections in South Carolina you HAVE to win the Upstate. Mark Sanford proved this last election, when he was slightly down or tied with Tommy Moore.... until Spartanburg and Greenville's votes started rolling in towards the end of the day. And to that end, Spartanburg has become a major stopping point for national candidates in the Republican Party. John McCain is making a stop next week followed by Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney, and they have stopped by many times before (as have other candidates). Expect around 2,000 people to come to town for the event. Even further, Duncan Hunter (R-CA) felt that Spartanburg was the place to announce his candidacy for president! (Yeah I've never heard of him either, but it still speaks well for the city)

Here is the article in the Herald-Journal about McCain's visit, if you're interested.

S.C. is in a big position. Rudy Giulliani was in Columbia last week. I see there trying to win everyones vote. I didn't hear much about his visit here just on the news.

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monsoon Gigalopolis

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As you probably know, the Upstate is becoming nationally known as a stronghold of conservatism. .....

Is this supposed to be a good thing? Most of the world looks at GW Bush/GOP conservatism that we have these days with derision and backward thinking. This isn't a commentary on the current conservative movement itself, but it is how the rest of the world views it. It would seem to me if the upstate wants to prosper, it is going to have to overcome this perception.

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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How? By becoming more liberal? They don't have the answers either. Look at California and its massive debt that it has to support its socialist programs. I think most conservatives know that Bush is not a conservative, and I'd like to think that most Americans see that as well. People will choose to ignore that fact because Bush continues to try to sell himself with that label. What the current bunch of Republicans have done to the party is dispicable, and I expect to see more of them booted out of office next term because of it. IMO the Democrats are gaining because of the Republican's (and Bush's) mismanagement at the national level more than anything.

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vicupstate Metropolitan Area

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I may be wrong, but I believe every major Republican candidate for President since Reagan has had an event at the Beacon at one time or another.

No doubt. No one has won the GOP nomination begining with 1980, without winning the SC primary. Iowa nad NH set the frontrunners and the SC primary picks the actual nominee. Spartanburg is a large GOP county, and the Beacon is legardary, so it's a no-brainer.

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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True^

As for California, you can argue that they have a "higher standard of living" but compared to what? What is so great about their 'standard' that I don't have access to in the Upstate? And at what cost? Its so expensive that most people cant afford to live in California anymore, even with higher salaries. San Francisco is so expensive that people are having to live in Sacramento -2 hours away- to afford a decent place to live.

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knightrider162 Whistle-Stop

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True^

As for California, you can argue that they have a "higher standard of living" but compared to what? What is so great about their 'standard' that I don't have access to in the Upstate? And at what cost? Its so expensive that most people cant afford to live in California anymore, even with higher salaries. San Francisco is so expensive that people are having to live in Sacramento -2 hours away- to afford a decent place to live.

But that is because of their urban layout more than anything ^^

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I don't know. I think that would be true if you compared the poorer SC counties, but I really think counties like Richland and Lexington, the two I'm intimately familar with have higher standards of living.

But, isnt welfare about the poorer people.. I would think with solid programs in place the standard of living in poorer SC counties would be better.. The standard of living in those places is sometimes just an embarassment to the state and I wish we did more to help those counties

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