Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs

[MLBrumby]

Cool pic, but is that from this week?  Downtown appears to lack several Sobro buildings. 

[claya91]

That pic from the east bank is from Jan 22, 2016.

[tokiorose]

Mine is from this week.

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[Sean blackdog]

Today this morning from Facebook Sky5. 

[smeagolsfree]

Pete always likes  to surprise us!

 

 

[downtownresident]

A follow up to my favorite picture from Monday during tonight’s snow: 

[henburg]

Some of my favorite things from this Ice Storm have been the shots of hockey being played on the Lake Watauga in Centennial Park-

Edited February 18, 2021 by henburg

[MLBrumby]

Amazing!!

[markhollin]

TBT: A snowstorm around 90 years ago on Broadway.

[smeagolsfree]

9 hours ago, henburg said:

Some of my favorite things from this Ice Storm have been the shots of hockey being played on the Lake Watauga in Centennial Park-

It drives me crazy when the newscasters and reporters on WTVF and other stations mispronounce Watauga and say WU TOO GA. Growing up in E TN that was a common name and if you sound it out like your third grade teacher taught you its not that hard.  It means beautiful water or sometimes  whispering water in native American but which language is unsure. Again it drives me so crazy I yell at the TV like they can hear me.

[downtownresident]

5 hours ago, markhollin said:

TBT: A snowstorm around 90 years ago on Broadway.

Here is 2021 for comparison’s sake: 

[nashvylle]

I wish we still had that streetcar!

[Luvemtall]

40 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

I wish we still had that streetcar!

They had better mass transit back then!!

[markhollin]

Courtesy of The Tennessean:

[smeagolsfree]

Again folks, Make sure  when you post photos from a private person.....MAKE sure you have permission. This is just a heads up because I do know thousands of dollars have had to be paid out by Urban Planet because people post photos without permission!!!!!!!!! I am not aware of it being on this board but better be safe than sorry.

The renderings, we should always try and credit the architect, or courtesy of.  Gifs that are out there are normally open game because the person that posted them in the first place is liable.

[MidTenn1]

My photo...

[markhollin]

Courtesy of Amar:

 

[donNdonelson2]

From the Fox 17 L&C Tower South camera. Saturday morning 7:17am.

[chris holman]

Nashville 1961 vs 2021

The east bank land size is a whole downtown in itself, 

[MLBrumby]

2 hours ago, chris holman said:

Nashville 1961 vs 2021

These old photos amaze me for many reasons. I grew up studying all the old photos of DT and what was to become MT Atlanta. And here I see so much I never noticed before, or no longer exists.  For example, that detention pond at the PSC site and the rough condition of the streets then. In fact, they're more developed now than then.  That whole area must have been a wasteland going back at least 100 years. Does anyone on our forum here know the history. It is on low ground on the inside of a riverbend, so I'd suppose there was never much in the way of valuable structures built in that square mile (or so). 

Regarding the detention pond, I can't help thinking there has been so muc leaching of hazardous waste into the Cumberland, and if Nashville wanted to play hardball with PSC, they could go after them for contamination. I don't know this for a fact, but it sure looks very likely. And grandfathered protections are quite limited when the EPA gets involved.  If I were advising the mayor, I'd exhaust all other possible avenues for negotiating before going that route. But still, it's surprising to me that the companies have not been pressed hard on this matter, especially when you consider the water treatment plant is just a few yards downriver. I seem to recall however, that the intake is about a mile upriver. I should have studied a lot more in Enviro-Law but there are many foundational legal precepts that apply. 

Edited February 21, 2021 by MLBrumby

[chris holman]

Courtesy: Tennessee State Library and Archives

[chris holman]

 

[titanhog]

^^Probably the best Nashville video I’ve seen.  Edited very, very well.  Also…I’m loving the increasing number of lighting additions to the downtown.  We could use a bunch more…but we’re getting there.

[rookzie]

On 2/20/2021 at 6:06 PM, MLBrumby said:

Nashville 1961 vs 2021

These old photos amaze me for many reasons. I grew up studying all the old photos of DT and what was to become MT Atlanta. And here I see so much I never noticed before, or no longer exists.  For example, that detention pond at the PSC site and the rough condition of the streets then. In fact, they're more developed now than then.  That whole area must have been a wasteland going back at least 100 years. Does anyone on our forum here know the history. It is on low ground on the inside of a riverbend, so I'd suppose there was never much in the way of valuable structures built in that square mile (or so). 

Regarding the detention pond, I can't help thinking there has been so muc leaching of hazardous waste into the Cumberland, and if Nashville wanted to play hardball with PSC, they could go after them for contamination. I don't know this for a fact, but it sure looks very likely. And grandfathered protections are quite limited when the EPA gets involved.  If I were advising the mayor, I'd exhaust all other possible avenues for negotiating before going that route. But still, it's surprising to me that the companies have not been pressed hard on this matter, especially when you consider the water treatment plant is just a few yards downriver. I seem to recall however, that the intake is about a mile upriver. I should have studied a lot more in Enviro-Law but there are many foundational legal precepts that apply. 

 

Most of Nashville's riverfront properties historically had (has) been either industrial or undeveloped, for nearly a hundred years.

This includes the pictured content (credit to Chris Holman) in this aerial view of the Silliman Evans Bridge under construction at its northern approach to and from I-40 (I-24 was yet not even close to being in existence in the core).  The Eastbank and much of the Westbank had been mini versions of the big Cockrill Bend industrial area, well into the 1980s, with such activity persisting  into the early '90s.

The 1950s saw a surge in this heavy industrial action, mainly the result of post-WW-II / Korean War modernism, not unlike that of other cities.  Steiner-Liff Industries (now PSC) began its around 1954 as an iron-and-metals recycling, and as Steiner-Liff Textiles, and Steiner-Liff Wiping Cloths.  I personally bought from them some small rolls of fabric and other textile-based retail items, back during the '70s, and during the early '90s I sold a sizable amount of copper bus bars from dismantled electrical distribution equipment before it was trucked away for commercial trade.   With varying high and low elevations on the Eastbank, very few residential structures had ever been built along the river meanders between Cornelia Fort Airpark and Bordeaux Gardens (near County Hospital Rd.).  Even what is referred to now as North Capitol, north-south between Jefferson Street, and the CSX river crossing and extending to 8th Ave., had been far more industrial ─ to an extent heavy industrial ─ during the 1940s and '50s.

The development of industrial properties along near-downtown had been no less an extension of what had evolved along the Westbank, and back in those days, businesses regarded proximity to the urban core as a primary operating advantage, since there was little concern for high property costs that have trended during the last 30 years.  Most of these businesses had been served by railroad or by river terminal, but as we all realize, the need for the transport and even the business models themselves has all but vanished or become reformulated into other business contexts.

That retention pond at Steiner-Liff always have been prone to flooding, but not as much as the area along the bend and the SoBro area as a whole had been, before the opening of Old Hickory Dam upstream around 1954, about the same time that Steiner-Liff began business.  When I was very young, downtown used to flood regularly in the "Hole", what is now the area roughly bordered between Broadway and Molloy St. and frequently westward up to around 2nd or 3rd Ave at spots.

In Chris' 1961 photo, the Ozburn-Hessey Terminal building on the westbank is barely visible in the background.  It's the rectangular structure immediately behind the center span of the Shelby Street Bridge and was located at 1st and Broadway.   It had been a river terminal at which railroad (Tennessee Central) boxcars used to be loaded and unloaded along a riverside deck track that extended along the east (river) side of the building.  Enlarging the photo on Chris' previous post will reveal a barge anchored beside that terminal.  Also in the photo viewing north along 1st Ave., one can observe the roadway intersection (at Broadway) in the upper-middle of the photo.  That track that is shown running along the warehouses uphill beyond that intersection had still been in use as late as 1980-'81.  I recall a 50-foot boxcar spotted at a dock halfway up toward the next street (Church Street) and appropriately chocked for safety.

One also can barely make out the old Woodland Street Bridge in the upper-right edge.  Printed sources state that current replacement of that old iron bridge was opened in 1966.   But I beg to differ, as I distinctly recall riding the Scott Ave, city bus (then under the Nashville Transit Company) on detour across the Victory Memorial Bridge in July 1967, while the new Woodland St. Bridge had still been under construction.  I also had observed the visiting Delta Queen riverboat docked on the river below.  The old Woodland St Bridge was the site of a horrific lynching in 1892.  Ephraim Brizzard, a black man, was punished for simply interracial contact with two white sisters in the Goodlettsvile area.  His brother Henry had been hanged earlier by a white mob for the incident, while Ephraim had been awaiting trial.  He was dragged from jail by a white mob and hanged on this bridge (the one shown).  Reportedly, his hanging body was shot nearly 100 times, taken to be shown to the family of the white sisters, and then burned.  Very few Nashvillians are aware of this noteworthy but obscure bit of local history.

Not sure that I posted before this photo of the passenger train, which shown just departed from the Tennessee Central depot on 1st Ave S, near Molloy St. around 1953 and headed for Baxter, Cookeville, Crossville, and Harriman.  This particular scene was shot just before the opening of Steiner-Liff metals.   It also shows the Ozburn-Hessey terminal in the background (tele-photo view).  This daily run would be discontinued in 1955.

Edited February 22, 2021 by rookzie

[markhollin]

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