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I've flown from both MEM and BNA so I think I can make a fair assesment on both. I think both airports are of the same quality but MEM does play more of a role in the states economy.

Memphis

Pros:

Plenty of destinations (domestic and international)

Lots of space in the terminals and parking lots

Easy layout

Great selection of food and resturants

Usually seems empty

Largest player in the state's economy

Short lines

World class treatment for private and charter planes at the Wilson Air Center.

Cons:

Boring (compared to the other NWA hub I've been too, Detroit)

Only one lowfare carrier (Airtran)

The Airport area is trashy.

Little and difficult public transportation (light rail is taking too long!)

Service attendants seem to be in their own world

Nashville

Pros:

Low cost carriers

Efficent loading and unloading zones

Welcoming to tourists

In a clean area

Always seems busy (can be a pro or con)

Service attendants actually help!

Cons:

Boring too!!!

Little Parking

No public transportation

Not as many direct flights

Small spaces

Doesn't give off enough of the "Nashville" vibe

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I will agree that MEM is more important in the state due primarily to FedEx, not NWA.

I think BNA is clean, has a nice appearence coming in from either the interstate or donelson pk, and has a great layout. The upcoming renovations will add that piece of Nashville we so desire. I don't see how parking is a problem. There is an entire overflow parking lot that I have never seen used. I typically park offisite anyway, but parking wouldn't be on my list of complaints.

I've been to MEM before. I knew it was a hub and thought it would be bigger than it is. Other than that, I don't remember to much about it.

I've haven't been in any of the other TN airports.

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I will say that MEM is more important in the state due to FedEx which then causes NWA to be quite an importance. Having FedEx has made it where the airport has lowered landing fees at the airport which is causing NW to expand here. Furthermore, Northwest has helped MEM with the AMS flight and if we ever see a flight to NRT from the state, it will be on Northwest from MEM...this is all a pro for MEM.

My list:

MEM

Pro:

Northwest hub

Many destinations

Player in Caribbean network for Northwest

FedEx

Spacious

Known for few delays

Excellent location to where it plays as an Eastern hub as well as a centralized location

Upgrades are making it competitive to other, newer airports

Layout makes it where if one security bank is clogged, you can go through one at one of the other concourses and cross over the bridge behind security to get to the concourse you need

Con:

Old

Bad part of town

Lack of low fare carriers (can you count US Air as a low-fare carrier now?)

Congested international area in B

busiest concourse is the least attractive (apart from the Rotunda)

BNA

Pro:

Served primarily by low fare carriers (generates good O&D numbers)

Clean layout

Visually appealing

Efficient

Good location

Con:

Served primarily by low fare carriers

Not as many destinations

Has one terminal that is entirely vacant (is this still the case?)

Layout seems a bit poor for traffic at the check-in desks in some spots

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Con:

Served primarily by low fare carriers

Not as many destinations

Has one terminal that is entirely vacant (is this still the case?)

Layout seems a bit poor for traffic at the check-in desks in some spots

We have direct flights to every major city in the US, and even some mid-majors. So destinations shouldn't even be an issue here. But no, every terminal has something going on in it. The renovations will address the check-in desk two-fold. How can being served by low far carriers be a totally bad thing though? Remember, American Airlines has 7 gates here and NWA has three, US Airways has two or three. Delta, United, and Continental all still fly into and out of here, so the lack of 'heritage' carriers is a moot statement. I think we have a VERY healthy balance of low far and mainline carriers here. Far better than many airports our size as a matter of fact. And the Tokyo flight isn't a sure thing for MEM. That is still a question for the Nashville airport. Not once was Memphis brought up in the discussion about it, offically.

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I would love to see a complete list of nonstop destinations for each airport. I think that would make very a very interesting and imformative comparison.

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Hank, I hope this helps. It shows every flight (passenger) in Nashville and who flies them. If it is listed multiple times under the same airline, then they fly multiple flights. There is a margin of error on this list, so take it lightly.

Air Canada Daily Operations

Toronto, ON Air Canada/Jazz

Toronto, ON Air Canada/Jazz

Air Wisconsin (US Airways Express) Daily Operations

Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin

Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin

Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin

American Airlines Daily Operations

Dallas, TX American

Dallas, TX American

Dallas, TX American

Chicago, IL American

Dallas, TX American

Los Angeles, CA American

Dallas, TX American

Dallas, TX American

Dallas, TX American

Miami, FL American

New York, NY American

American Eagle (American Airlines) Daily Operations

Saint Louis, MO American Eagle

Chicago, IL American Eagle

Chicago, IL American Eagle

Washington, DC American Eagle

Chicago, IL American Eagle

Miami, FL American Eagle

Chicago, IL American Eagle

Washington, DC American Eagle

Miami, FL American Eagle

Chicago, IL American Eagle

Washington, DC American Eagle

Chicago, IL American Eagle

Saint Louis, MO American Eagle

ASA (Delta) Daily Operations

Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines

Chautauqua Airlines (United) Daily Operations

Saint Louis, MO Chautauqua Airlines

Orlando, FL Chautauqua Airlines

Cincinnati, OH Chautauqua Airlines

Saint Louis, MO Chautauqua Airlines

Comair (Delta) Airlines Daily Operations

Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc.

Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc.

New York, NY Comair Inc.

Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc.

Boston, MA Comair Inc.

Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc.

Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc.

New York, NY Comair Inc.

Continental Airlines Daily Operations

Newark, NJ Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Cleveland, OH Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Newark, NJ Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Newark, NJ Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Cleveland, OH Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Newark, NJ Continental Express

Houston, TX Continental Express

Newark, NJ Continental Express

Delta Airlines Daily Operations

Atlanta, GA Delta Air Lines

Atlanta, GA Delta Air Lines

Atlanta, GA Delta Air Lines

Atlanta, GA Delta Air Lines

Atlanta, GA Delta Air Lines

Atlanta, GA Delta Air Lines

Freedom Airlines Daily Operations

Orlando, FL Freedom Airlines

Orlando, FL Freedom Airlines

Frontier Airlines Daily Operations

Denver, CO Frontier

Denver, CO Frontier

Denver, CO Frontier

Denver, CO Frontier

Cancun, Mexico Frontier

Mesaba Airlines (Northwest Airlines) Daily Operations

Denver, CO Mesa Airlines

Chicago, IL Mesa Airlines

Chicago, IL Mesa Airlines

Washington, DC Mesa Airlines

Charlotte, NC Mesa Airlines

Chicago, IL Mesa Airlines

Chicago, IL Mesa Airlines

Charlotte, NC Mesa Airlines

Denver, CO Mesa Airlines

Chicago, IL Mesa Airlines

Washington, DC Mesa Airlines

Chicago, IL Mesa Airlines

Detroit, MI Mesaba Aviation

Northwest Airlines Daily Operations

Detroit, MI Northwest

Memphis, TN Northwest

Detroit, MI Northwest

Minneapolis, MN Northwest

Memphis, TN Northwest

Detroit, MI Northwest

Minneapolis, MN Northwest

Detroit, MI Northwest

Memphis, TN Northwest

Minneapolis, MN Northwest

Detroit, MI Northwest

PSA (US Airways) Daily Operations

Charlotte, NC PSA Airlines

Charlotte, NC PSA Airlines

Washington, DC PSA Airlines

Charlotte, NC PSA Airlines

Washington, DC PSA Airlines

Republic Airlines (US Airways) Daily Operations

Philadelphia, PA Republic Airlines

Washington, DC Republic Airlines

Philadelphia, PA Republic Airlines

Skyway Airlines (Midwest Connect) Daily Operations

Denver, CO Skyway Airlines

Milwaukee, WI Skyway Airlines

Milwaukee, WI Skyway Airlines

Southwest Airlines Daily Operations

Raleigh/Durham, NC Southwest

Philadelphia, PA Southwest

Jacksonville, FL Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Tampa, FL Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Orlando, FL Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Kansas City, MO Southwest

Cleveland, OH Southwest

Detroit, MI Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Hartford, CT Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Columbus, OH Southwest

Austin, TX Southwest

Houston, TX Southwest

Raleigh/Durham, NC Southwest

Fort Lauderdale, FL Southwest

New Orleans, LA Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Birmingham, AL Southwest

San Antonio, TX Southwest

Tampa, FL Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Jacksonville, FL Southwest

Orlando, FL Southwest

Phoenix, AZ Southwest

Houston, TX Southwest

Detroit, MI Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Cleveland, OH Southwest

Raleigh/Durham, NC Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Fort Lauderdale, FL Southwest

Kansas City, MO Southwest

San Diego, CA Southwest

Los Angeles, CA Southwest

Ontario, CA Southwest

Austin, TX Southwest

Las Vegas, NV Southwest

Providence, RI Southwest

Tampa, FL Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Orlando, FL Southwest

Los Angeles, CA Southwest

Raleigh/Durham, NC Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Detroit, MI Southwest

Houston, TX Southwest

Jacksonville, FL Southwest

San Antonio, TX Southwest

Oakland, CA Southwest

New Orleans, LA Southwest

Kansas City, MO Southwest

Las Vegas, NV Southwest

Orlando, FL Southwest

Oklahoma City, OK Southwest

Cleveland, OH Southwest

Philadelphia, PA Southwest

Seattle, WA Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Tampa, FL Southwest

Baltimore, MD Southwest

Houston, TX Southwest

San Diego, CA Southwest

Birmingham, AL Southwest

Jacksonville, FL Southwest

Cleveland, OH Southwest

Chicago, IL Southwest

Amarillo, TX Southwest

Austin, TX Southwest

Tampa, FL Southwest

Los Angeles, CA Southwest

Houston, TX Southwest

Las Vegas, NV Southwest

Phoenix, AZ Southwest

Boise, ID Southwest

Corpus Christi, TX Southwest

Kahului, Hawaii Southwest (ATA)

Honolulu, Hawaii Southwest (ATA)

EL Paso, TX Southwest

Ontario, CA Southwest

Lubbock, TX Southwest

Manchester, NH Southwest

Midland, TX Southwest

Norfolk, VA Southwest

Providence, RI Southwest

Reno, NV Southwest

Omaha, NB Southwest

Orange County, CA Southwest

Trans States Airlines (United and US Airways) Daily Operations

Pittsburgh, PA Trans States Airlines

Saint Louis, MO Trans States Airlines

Saint Louis, MO Trans States Airlines

Pittsburgh, PA Trans States Airlines

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Oh my, look at Southwest's operations compared to the rest of them...

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Oh my, look at Southwest's operations compared to the rest of them...

People don't realize the presence that Southwest has in Nashville. Hopefully this will open them up to the whole picture a little bit. Nashville really is a "Hub" of sorts for them.

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if you look at southwest's airports where they operate the most flights, Nashville is 5th I think, I remember using Southwest to get into Boise before i moved here, and before Boise renovated there airport.

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ANd believe it or not, they will be adding more flights next year supposedly. That is why there is talk of a fifth runway just for Southwest to use.

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Here's MEM's nonstop destinations

Airtran

Atlanta

American Airlines (Operated by AA, American Eagle, and Trans States Airlines)

Chicago

Dallas/Ft. Worth

Miami

Continental (Operated by Express Jet Airlines)

Cleveland

Houston

Newark

Delta (Operated by Delta, Atlantic Southeast Airlines, and Comair)

Atlanta

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky

Salt Lake City

Northwest Airlines (Operated by NWA, Mesaba, and Pinnacle)

Alexandria

Amsterdam Netherlands

Aspen

Atlanta

Austin

Baltimore

Baton Rouge

Birmingham

Boston

Cancun Mexico

Charlotte

Charleston SC

Chattanooga

Chicago

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Columbia

Columbus MS

Columbus OH

Dallas

Dayton

Denver

Des Moines

Detroit

Evansville IN

Fayetteville AR

Fort Lauderdale

Ft. Myers

Fort Smith AR

Ft. Walton Beach FL

Gainesville FL

Grand Rapids

Greensboro/High Point

Greenville MS

Gulfport

Hattiesburg MS

Huntsville

Houston

Indianapolis

Jackson MS

Jacksonville

Johnson City/Bristol/Kingsport TN

Kansas City

Knoxville

Lafayette LA

Las Vegas

Lexington KY

Lincoln NE

Little Rock

Los Angeles

Louisville

Madison WI

Miami

Milwaukee

Minneapolis

Mobile

Monroe LA

Montego Bay Jamaica

Montgomery

Muscle Shoals

Nashville

Newark

New Orleans

New York City

Oklahoma City

Omaha

Orlando

Paducah KY

Panama City FL

Pensacola

Petit Jean Airport AR

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Pittsburgh

Quad Cities

Raleigh

Richmond

San Antonio

San Francisco

San Juan

Seattle

Sheffield AL

Shreveport

Springfield/Branson MO

St. Louis

Tallahassee

Tampa

Toronto Canada

Tulsa

Tupelo

Vancouver Canada

Washington DC

Wichita

Wilkes-Barre

United (Operated by Mesa Airlines and Skywest)

Chicago

Dallas

Denver

Washington

US Airways (Operated by America West, PSA Airlines and Mesa Airlines)

Charlotte

Phoenix

The way I counted total nonstop flights...If the same airline has more than one daily flight to a destination, its counted as one flight. If two diffrent airlines offer service to the same destination, its counted as two. My count was

MEM 110 destinations.

BNA 79 destinations.

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Wow, that's impressive. I never realized how many non-stop destinations Memphis has. How many daily flights does Memphis have?

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Wow, that's impressive. I never realized how many non-stop destinations Memphis has. How many daily flights does Memphis have?

289 commercial flights daily. Add in Fedex and UPS and MEM has 1075 flight movents daily (one flight movement is a take off and landing) which makes it the 27th busiest in the world and the busiest in the world at night. Thats why it'll be hard to redevelop the area with an average of 3 planes taking off or landing every 5 minutes. Too much noise. Actually, anywhere within 30 miles of the airport gets traffic overhead, but you just learn to block it out. Its not unbearable unless your right next to the airport.

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The reason I put the operations on here is for comparison sake. Some of those Memphis flights are just once a day type flights like some of the Nashville ones are. This is a better way to show how your airlines perform at and for your airport passengers. Rather than a blanket number of 79 or whatever.

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The reason I put the operations on here is for comparison sake. Some of those Memphis flights are just once a day type flights like some of the Nashville ones are. This is a better way to show how your airlines perform at and for your airport passengers. Rather than a blanket number of 79 or whatever.

I couldn't find an up-to-date list like yours but here's what I did find for daily flights per airline...

Airtran- 5

American- 3

American Eagle- 11

Trans States dba American Connection- 2

Continental- Diversion flights only

Continental Express- 10

Delta-5

Atlantic Southeast dba Delta Connection- 7

ComAir dba Delta Connection- 5

Northwest-76

Mesaba Airlines dba Northwest Airlink/Northwest- 29

Pinnacle Airlines dba Northwest Airlink- 114

America West Airlines/US Airways- 1

Mesa Airlines dba America West Express- 1

Mesa Airlines dba US Airways Express- 2

PSA dba US Airways Express- 4

United- Diversion Flights Only

Mesa Airlines dba United Express- 2

Skywest Airlines dba United Express- 5

Not as informative as yours but it was the best one I could find.

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Not as informative as yours but it was the best one I could find.

Hey, I think you did a fantastic job actually.

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And the Tokyo flight isn't a sure thing for MEM. That is still a question for the Nashville airport. Not once was Memphis brought up in the discussion about it, offically.

Whoa now...I don't know where this BNA-Tokyo talk is coming from, but I suspect it's civic boosterism on Nashville's part and not anything in the official airline circles. I know it seems like it would make sense with the Japanese corporate presence in the area, but there's just no way this kind of route can be financially justified by an airline. We're talking about large aircraft that would have to be filled almost totally with Nashville area passengers, since BNA is not a hub and it's domestic schedule isn't conducive to making connections to an international flight.

Nothing official is in the works for a MEM-Tokyo route either, but its status as a hub for NWA (which has an extensive Far East network) and the consistent success of the MEM-Amsterdam route puts it in a better position to attract a flight to Asia. Also, NW will begin receiving 787-8 aircraft in 2008. It is a medium-capacity (210-250) aircraft with intercontinental range, so it's possible that the MEM hub might be able to funnel in enough passengers to make it work.

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Whoa now...I don't know where this BNA-Tokyo talk is coming from, but I suspect it's civic boosterism on Nashville's part and not anything in the official airline circles. I know it seems like it would make sense with the Japanese corporate presence in the area, but there's just no way this kind of route can be financially justified by an airline. We're talking about large aircraft that would have to be filled almost totally with Nashville area passengers, since BNA is not a hub and it's domestic schedule isn't conducive to making connections to an international flight.

Nothing official is in the works for a MEM-Tokyo route either, but its status as a hub for NWA (which has an extensive Far East network) and the consistent success of the MEM-Amsterdam route puts it in a better position to attract a flight to Asia. Also, NW will begin receiving 787-8 aircraft in 2008. It is a medium-capacity (210-250) aircraft with intercontinental range, so it's possible that the MEM hub might be able to funnel in enough passengers to make it work.

Well Nissan has stated they wanted one. They'll probably end up using a charter flight unless BNA subsidizes the service, like Raleigh does. Daimer Chrysler, for example, uses their own plane to shuttle workers between Germany and Detroit. I would imagine Nissan would do the same thing, but I guess they thought they might as well take a shot at an extra incentive.

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If Nissan wants it, they will get it. That's really all that I can say about it. But you WILL see another international flight from Nashville in the future. Write the check and put it in the bank. It will happen sooner than you think. Regardless of whether we are a "hub" or not. Almost 9 and a half million passengers a year and growing is not your average play toy airport.

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If Nissan wants it, they will get it. That's really all that I can say about it. But you WILL see another international flight from Nashville in the future. Write the check and put it in the bank. It will happen sooner than you think. Regardless of whether we are a "hub" or not. Almost 9 and a half million passengers a year and growing is not your average play toy airport.

I'd like to know how many of those 9 million are Southwest passangers. My guess is that much of Nashville's traffic is due to Southwest and their cheap flights (can't say I blame them either). I don't know if that has any impact on potential long-distance international flights from major carriers, but it seems like it would if a major carrier lacks the traffic through Nashville to justify such a flight. Thus the benefit of being a hub--airlines can filter their traffic from others cities into a hub and more easily justify a costly international flight.

But with Nissan, who knows. A Japan-based carrier may begin service to and from Nashville, or Nissan may just make it happen with money and pulling strings. I do feel though that Memphis is a more viable option for an America-based carrier (i.e. Northwest).

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You can't justify the traffic for a international flight if you don't have a flight from here to begin with. And using the worn out argument about AA's London flight is hogwash, LOL!!! That flight was premature for Nashville. I seriously believe it would work in todays market, without a doubt. But, until a study or something is done it is just pure speculation on all parts. Interstingly enough though, Southwest has codeshare agreements with ATA to fly long distances and over major bodies of water with their fleet of 757's. As it stands, SWA cannot go beyond 50 nautical miles of a coast due to the lack of safety equipment on their fleet of 737's for ocean accidents. That is one reason they codeshare with ATA.

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What major bodies of water? I don't recall any 757's operating transcontinental flights over bodies of waters like Pacific and Atlantic ocean. Did you mean 767, because that is the "big sister" to the 757, which is capable of flying overseas. But still, the 777 is the first twin-jet airliner to fly overseas. The size of the Triple 7's engines are equivalent to the fuselage of a B-737.

The Indianapolis, Indiana based airline, better known as ATA, may work something with one of the 4 L1011s . Honestly, i don't see that happening soon. I don't see ATA pulling from such a small Transcontinental fleet just because Nissan wants it.. It would be rather risky to invest in a route that no one is sure would work. The reason why Memphis seems to be more logical because of the success with its transcontinental flights, which is what everyone here is saying or is trying to say. Maybe in the future with all of the bankruptcy talks are reduced to a minimum, a huge transcontinental route (Japan) may be proposed.

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Well the only flight Memphis has that is transcontinental is the Amsterdam flight and it's highly doubtful that the people flying on it are coming here for Tennessee in the first place. They come here because that is where they are hearded into. And then they set off to more important places. And they are only flying from the coast of Cali. to Hawaii. That really isn't that far of a flight for a 757. Matter of fact, they are bringing troops home form Iraq with 757's. I got the pictures to prove it.

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Good points.

The 757 can operate transoceanic flights, but in the Airliner Industry, the 757 is most known as a short-to-midrange jetliner..Its even been said at Boeing.com.

I never said that it couldn't operate long distance. In fact, I said it could fly overseas. The max. distance of the majority used 757-200 is rougly 4,000 nm/7,000 km; the distance from Oakland to Honolulu is 2,082 nm/ 3852 km which is more than enough. There are only 4 airliners that operate the 757 in that matter. The 757 got more production operating the short to mid range flights until the newer series 737 and A320/1 hit the market.

I did my research and found on the ATA website that they did operate the 757 in the Oakland to Honolulu (SWA) flight; I didn't know that. I figured since the jetliner is known as a "hub and spoke" jetliner that ATA would use one of their long-distance carriers (L1011). Nobody's is saying your lying Lexy, I just didn't know was being used that much for trans-continental flights :thumbsup: .

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Good points.

The 757 can operate transoceanic flights, but in the Airliner Industry, the 757 is most known as a short-to-midrange jetliner..Its even been said at Boeing.com.

I never said that it couldn't operate long distance. In fact, I said it could fly overseas. The max. distance of the majority used 757-200 is rougly 4,000 nm/7,000 km; the distance from Oakland to Honolulu is 2,082 nm/ 3852 km which is more than enough. There are only 4 airliners that operate the 757 in that matter. The 757 got more production operating the short to mid range flights until the newer series 737 and A320/1 hit the market.

I did my research and found on the ATA website that they did operate the 757 in the Oakland to Honolulu (SWA) flight; I didn't know that. I figured since the jetliner is known as a "hub and spoke" jetliner that ATA would use one of their long-distance carriers (L1011). Nobody's is saying your lying Lexy, I just didn't know was being used that much for trans-continental flights :thumbsup: .

That's quite alright Amanda. No big deal. LOL!!!

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