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Lexy Town

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A little off topic, but still cool to see.

A 737-200 Advanced landed here yesterday for a charter flight to Tunica.

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And this also was a chartered flight that visited here. You rarely see these in Nashville.

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Made me happy! LOL!!!

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MidTenn1 Town

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Memphis has a very attractive terminal and that is a complement in that it is the oldest of all the airports. The terminal has mushroom columns that are pure mid-century modern. good)

Don't let them hear you say that. The airport people refer to the columns as the 'champaign glass' look. I learned that when I worked with a firm about 20 years ago that did some landside improvements to the airport including expansion of the garage.

The airport people were very concerned about security at the time, and when I read 'Silence of the Lambs' that summer, I found out why. In the book, Hannibal Lector committed one of his murders in the dark, cavernous garage.

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I've always thought that Allegiant's livery was quite classy. Unfortunately, BNA doesn't fit their model of serving smaller airports in smaller cities, so I don't think they'll become more frequent visitors. Maybe at TRI, TYS, or CHA though!

Also, is runway 13/31 at BNA still closed for reconstruction? I know they were working on it a year or two back, but I never heard anything about that project being completed. Maybe I just missed it...

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Lexy Town

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13/31 opened for service three days ago as a matter of fact. There is still one taxi-way that is closed but it is suppose to open up this week.

You guys have GOT to see this. It arrived this afternoon and departed shortly after. Its a somewhat secret C-32B (757-200) for the CIA and Special Operations Group for Homeland Security. I have no idea what they were doing here, but it was cool to see this extremely rare and controversial aircraft here.

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Never been but I've seen the exit. Its on the western outskits of Jackson behind some manfacturing plant. According to the airports website http://www.mklairport.com/ they have two daily flights to St. Louis with a Jetstream 32 (seats a whopping 19 people :lol: )

Now now, don't knock the Jackson airport. I remember the good ole days that Jackson had the Memphis flight on Northwest airlines. I took an international flight out of Jackson and the agent that was checkin me in was REALLY confused!! :D

A little off topic, but still cool to see.

A 737-200 Advanced landed here yesterday for a charter flight to Tunica.

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I saw that airplane when I was arriving on Saturday!! The paint job kinda made me do a double take, lol.

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Lexy Town

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It was a charter for somebody here. I know they have been used by the hockey team here before, but this was a flight to the Casino's in Tunica. It showed back up today at the airport ironically. It's callsign is "Songbird".

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Well there has been the rumor around here, and I don't know how true this is so don't quote me on it, that there is an airline that has shown intrest in hubbing the airport in the future. If that happens, then the fifth runway will be a "have to" just to keep current service up without disrupting it any.

Not sure why BNA would need a fifth runway. You've already got 3 parallels, meaning you can do simultaneous landings on the outer two and takeoffs on the center...or vice versa. This is what MEM does with high-intensive FedEx operations (100 per hour).

It will also be brought up to compliance with newer aircraft (i.e. A380 standards) for FedEx's terminal here.

I hope they're not spending the money to do that for FedEx. There will be no FedEx A380s in BNA. They are strictly for hub-to-hub operations. Maybe a bulk cargo operator would fly one in someday, but not FedEx.

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Not sure why BNA would need a fifth runway. You've already got 3 parallels, meaning you can do simultaneous landings on the outer two and takeoffs on the center...or vice versa. This is what MEM does with high-intensive FedEx operations (100 per hour).

I hope they're not spending the money to do that for FedEx. There will be no FedEx A380s in BNA. They are strictly for hub-to-hub operations. Maybe a bulk cargo operator would fly one in someday, but not FedEx.

I'm guessing they'll be doing that "just in case" an opportunity presents itself in the future that an A380 will want to operate there. Just to be prepared for a future opportunity.

Don't know if it's worth it to spend that much more money on it though if they won't be seeing it in the foreseeable future.

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Lexy Town

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Not sure why BNA would need a fifth runway. You've already got 3 parallels, meaning you can do simultaneous landings on the outer two and takeoffs on the center...or vice versa. This is what MEM does with high-intensive FedEx operations (100 per hour).

I hope they're not spending the money to do that for FedEx. There will be no FedEx A380s in BNA. They are strictly for hub-to-hub operations. Maybe a bulk cargo operator would fly one in someday, but not FedEx.

They are planning a fifth runway becasue, well look at the reports. The airport is growing rather fast and already there are tie-ups on three of the four runways at some points during the day thanks to Southwest and occasionaly American. Either way, it is a long distance plan not a short term. I thought you all knew that, LOL!!. The runway 2-Left 20-Right is only around 8,000 feet long and they want it longer for heavier cargo landings and take-offs. They are trying to get a deidcated cargo runway for larger, heavier planes. The FedEx rushes happen in waves. With SWA here, it is constant and not waves of traffic. Pretty much all day and night for them, minus the early, early mornings and such.

And FedEx isn't the only cargo company that flies here. China Airlines is one that has a large (if not larger) presence here as well as others. They would bring this one runway into compliance in case one has to make a landing here for whatever reason. Gotta have something for the large planes that have an emergency, or have a diversion due to weather or whatever you know. China Airlines consistantly outbids FedEx for the Dell contract almost everytime it has came up. I think it's somewhat safe to say they will be here for a while as their client base has grown since arriving to include other companies.

You guys kill me. This whole "getting it ready for the A380" is just pure speculating at this point. I guess it would help if I had said that before. Sorry about that. I can tell you that it (cargo runway) will be extended over Murfreesboro Road. That is a fact. And so is the re-alignment of Donleson Pike around the outside of 20-Left 20-Right. Heaven forbid that a large plane land here, and we have the capability to allow that.

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They are trying to get a deidcated cargo runway for larger, heavier planes. The FedEx rushes happen in waves. With SWA here, it is constant and not waves of traffic. Pretty much all day and night for them, minus the early, early mornings and such.

I've never heard of a dedicated cargo runway at a multi-use airport. I don't know why they would spend $200 million on a new runway but not make it available for passenger traffic, which is more abundant. We don't even do that at MEM, and we're the busiest cargo airport in the world. But maybe you meant that it would be built to support the needs of heavy cargo aircraft, but still available for general operations?

Also, a steady stream of traffic like SWA has at BNA makes additional runways less necessary, not more. It's the heavy push periods, with lots of simultaneous arrivals and/or departures, that causes the need for all the additional runways. Now, if BNA got a hub as you were suggesting, there might be waves of traffic again but unless it's a mega-hub like ATL, DFW, ORD, etc., four parallels would seem to be overkill. That's what had me confused.

And FedEx isn't the only cargo company that flies here cdarr. Look at my pictures and you would see that my friend. China Airlines is one that has a large presence here as well as others.

Yes, I realize Air China flies a 747 in there. That's why I mentioned that somebody else could fly an A380 in there someday.

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Lexy Town

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I've never heard of a dedicated cargo runway at a multi-use airport. I don't know why they would spend $200 million on a new runway but not make it available for passenger traffic, which is more abundant. We don't even do that at MEM, and we're the busiest cargo airport in the world. But maybe you meant that it would be built to support the needs of heavy cargo aircraft, but still available for general operations?

Also, a steady stream of traffic like SWA has at BNA makes additional runways less necessary, not more. It's the heavy push periods, with lots of simultaneous arrivals and/or departures, that causes the need for all the additional runways. Now, if BNA got a hub as you were suggesting, there might be waves of traffic again but unless it's a mega-hub like ATL, DFW, ORD, etc., four parallels would seem to be overkill. That's what had me confused.

Yes, I realize Air China flies a 747 in there. That's why I mentioned that somebody else could fly an A380 in there someday.

Then I don't know what their reasoning is. I just know what I have been told by Airport Officals close to the master plan development board. And of course, what has been printed in the paper in the past. They will still use all the runways for passenger jets, but the one closer to the cargo ramps will be the "Primary" cargo runway which is why they want it extended past its current length. That is what I am talking about.

Here is the master plan for the short and long term. CLICK: http://www.flynashville.com/about/airport17002.pdf

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Here is the master plan for the short and long term. CLICK: http://www.flynashville.com/about/airport17002.pdf

Okay...thanks for the link. Now I see what you're talking about. Page 19 under "airfield development" says that while no new runway is forseen for the long-range planning period, they want to keep the necessary land in reserve (presumably they mean all that undeveloped land east of the airport).

Also, extending 2L-20R makes sense as it is adjacent to the air cargo facility and would prevent excessive taxi distances.

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Allegiant Air enters the Chattanooga market on Oct 31, 2006. Itroductory 1 way fares will be $49.00 followed by $79.00 regular fares. This gives CHA 9 direct flight, the most they've had in recent times.

I hope they can make the numbers work. ValueJet tried this route back in the 90's.

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