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Creative Village [Proposed]

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Dale    599

Your first insturment? That implies that you moved on from the violin. What went wrong with the violin?

Guitar came into my life. ;)

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Pieson    84

lets wait to see the arena and OPAC get built and the current arena taking down first

I of course am a big supporter of this project, and from what iv seen of the concepts and layout, this would probably be where I would want to move

lets make it happen baby

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cloudship    7

I don't know. I don't think they quite get it. You can't create a creative neighborhood in one shot. It's an anti-thesis to it. Creative villages are creative precisely because they are layered, textured, and most importantly, diverse. If you design something as new and as a cohesive development, then it simply can't have that hodgepodge character, eclectic mix, and layers of history there. It just doesn't work.

If they really want to develop a creative neighborhood, then they have to focus more on providing what those creative people want in a neighborhood, such as freedom, social gathering spots, independent businesses, and chances to showcased their individual work.

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bulldogger    79

I don't know. I don't think they quite get it. You can't create a creative neighborhood in one shot. It's an anti-thesis to it. Creative villages are creative precisely because they are layered, textured, and most importantly, diverse. If you design something as new and as a cohesive development, then it simply can't have that hodgepodge character, eclectic mix, and layers of history there. It just doesn't work.

If they really want to develop a creative neighborhood, then they have to focus more on providing what those creative people want in a neighborhood, such as freedom, social gathering spots, independent businesses, and chances to showcased their individual work.

You are talking about the arts... before the digital age. New age creative individuals want to see their artwork on other people's laptops as they walk by in a square or their artwork on a passerby's cell phone. This creative village Dyer invisions is made of graphic designers, web designers, web developers, information architects, software engineers, usability specialists, game designers, etc. It's a different breed of artist. They thrive more on caffeine induced highs than alcoholic visions.

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bulldogger    79

u mean geeks?

Yes. I forgot the digital filmmakers, but they also sit at a computer screen half the time editing down their work. Very similar to animators, except in the method of getting images into their computers.

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sunshine    253

They can just do a replica of SOHO or South Beach Art Deco district block by block and it will instantly become a hip place. After all, we are famous for building fake stuff and make it better than the origin. Have Disney design the block.

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mrh3    14

They can just do a replica of SOHO or South Beach Art Deco district block by block and it will instantly become a hip place. After all, we are famous for building fake stuff and make it better than the origin. Have Disney design the block.

I love that idea! I really think that would work. I was actually going to suggest using "Artist Cards" which is what essentially turned SoHo from an abandoned light manufacturing district into a thriving artist community to overpriced "mega mall/lifestyle center."

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Whipp    1

They can just do a replica of SOHO or South Beach Art Deco district block by block and it will instantly become a hip place. After all, we are famous for building fake stuff and make it better than the origin. Have Disney design the block.

or better yet, have the creative artist themselves design the creative village on their little laptops.

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neon9    0

or better yet, have the creative artist themselves design the creative village on their little laptops.

Have you seen the renderings? I think they have already tried that. It looks good on-screen but I dunno....

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GRS328    19

They can just do a replica of SOHO or South Beach Art Deco district block by block and it will instantly become a hip place. After all, we are famous for building fake stuff and make it better than the origin. Have Disney design the block.

Please tell me you are joking..

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Pieson    84

They can just do a replica of SOHO or South Beach Art Deco district block by block and it will instantly become a hip place. After all, we are famous for building fake stuff and make it better than the origin. Have Disney design the block.

haha

actually I like that idea

seriously

there is a ton of prime real estate just sitting there begging to be turned into something great

I dont see why this would be such a "pipe dream".... what is being proposed here is nothing that elaborate or crazy

and in all honesty I that would be pretty swank to have disney put in a mainstreet here.....think of the possibilities

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now if we can only get rights to the castle...

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sunshine    253

glad that someone get the ideas...

Nashville copy something from Greece and Universal copy from Portofino. NYC has the arch at the washington square. They all instantly become a popular place.

Orlando can copy from SOHO or SOBE or they can copy a section of Paris old building here. But it probably cant be called Creative Village and have to settle with Innovative Village.

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prahaboheme    673

I don't know. I don't think they quite get it. You can't create a creative neighborhood in one shot. It's an anti-thesis to it. Creative villages are creative precisely because they are layered, textured, and most importantly, diverse. If you design something as new and as a cohesive development, then it simply can't have that hodgepodge character, eclectic mix, and layers of history there. It just doesn't work.

If they really want to develop a creative neighborhood, then they have to focus more on providing what those creative people want in a neighborhood, such as freedom, social gathering spots, independent businesses, and chances to showcased their individual work.

I agree to an extent but there are rare instances where this has worked (ie Seaside).

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Pieson    84

glad that someone get the ideas...

Nashville copy something from Greece and Universal copy from Portofino. NYC has the arch at the washington square. They all instantly become a popular place.

Orlando can copy from SOHO or SOBE or they can copy a section of Paris old building here. But it probably cant be called Creative Village and have to settle with Innovative Village.

ill say an amen to that

my dream would be to see a paris or amsterdam copy put in there

real classy old world european feel to it, garuantee it will be an instant sucess

what cha think of something like this

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bulldogger    79

Needs green space. That looks dense, but very far from a creative space.

Those pics make me want to light up a ciggie, drink some red wine and eat fresh mozz and proscuitto.

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cloudship    7

But you're not going to get creative people - you are going to get tourists and wanna-be tourists. Sure todays artists are digital. They still drink coffee, go out to bars, and like to hang around. If you design it just like their office, why would they go outside? Ultimately artists are still artists. Whether the media is paper or pixels, they need to stand out and be noticed. They need to be on the edge. You can take inspiration from other places, but it is still just surface style. You need the content to go with it.

The only way I could see something like this work is if you went way overboard the other way. High tech. really high tech metropolis/cyberpunkish/Tokyo tech. Something completely unlike anything else.

The other issue is that this is literally on the wrong side of the track. Making a development on this side of I-4 would likely draw away a lot of focus from the downtown core.

Does anyone have a larger picture of that rendering?

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sunshine    253

Creative Village

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The city's master plan would extend Terry Avenue north from its dead end at Robinson Street to Colonial Drive, cutting through the "creative village" and serving as its main artery. Here -- just north of UCF

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camstrang    15

I agree with cloudship. Pseudo-old world European architecture would simply add to the fake Disney-esque stigma that Orlando already has. It's not natural, and would have zero historical validity here. The last thing we need is more styrofoam and stucco facades. We're a young city, a new city, and we need to play that up. We can't recreate Soho because that kind of character evolved naturally over the last hundred years, and we can't recreate Paris because that took hundreds more. We have the opportunity of doing something completely new and original, and high tech Tokyo/Barcelona/Beijing kind of world class architecture and outdoor technology would give Orlando something that would truly draw creatives and give us the modern edge that not many U.S. cities (especially in the South) currently have. I own a multimedia company, and I can tell you when I'm trying to move world-class designers here Orlando definitely has a negative stigma. There are pockets of cool (Winter Park, Thornton Park, College Park), but it's still a tough sell. But with the new arena going in, the new PAC, Millenia mall and some of the new downtown proposals we've seen, we have the opportunity to have ultra-modern architecture and a Tokyo-type approach to pushing the envelope redefine our city's vibe. We need more of it. You want to make a creative village? Creative companies want visually stunning spaces to work in. We want modern, modern, modern. Orlando has very few options for these kinds of buildings, and if the city fostered an area of architectural innovation, an area that's funky and completely unconventional, I'd move my company there in a second. If we make a truly innovative creative village, not something that looks like Winter Park Village, Orlando can and will change its national reputation. In 5-10 years there could be a real buzz about the city on the national stage, and I can't wait because it'll make it a lot easier for me to move designers here. :)

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Pieson    84

but a tokyo-type ultra modern really doesn't fit in with the feel of the city

we are a newer city, but still def. have a classier look and feel

we need a pedestrian friendly classy feel, that encourages population and high traffic

something has to go there, lets just see how it works out

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as you can see, there is a lot of room to work with

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