Union Station & Excelsior Street Development

[twincity]

theyre interested in the proposal, but not tax-increment financing.

[winston's finest]

this development would be wonderful for WSSU and def be a booster for interested students due to the convenience. Also this project could help to create interest and vigor in East Winston that has been overshadowed by many retailers by other parts of the city and county.

this could once more become a very popular part of town for young black professionals that desire to live in and support the city's minority neighborhoods

[JerseyBoy]

Groundbreaking is set for the spring of 2009 with a completion date in 2011.

[yadkinv]

What's the source for the information?

[intcvlcphlga]

Does anyone know if there are any new renderings?

[JerseyBoy]

Does anyone know if there are any new renderings?

[intcvlcphlga]

Here is a bigger rendering of the proposed condo tower:

Thanks for posting the rendering. I wish the building were taller rather than it's current somewhat squat configuration. But, it will be a nice addition to the skyline and a good marker for WSSU.

[burt]

If and when Southeast High Speed Rail ever materializes, one of the mapped routes swings west from GSO to Winston, then southeast to rejoin the main Charlotte line. Would the depot pictured in the above rendering be the W/S station? Orulz would probably know the answer as well as clarifying where trains arrived from and departed to from Union Station in its heyday.

[JerseyBoy]

New renderings!

[orulz]

Awesome, sauce?

Seriously, though. Are these new renderings pulled from an old source, or are they new? I dig the streetcars. It's too bad that the Green 40/ US52 interchange kills connectivity in the neighborhood so badly. At any rate, it would be nice to know this project still has a pulse. The website hasn't been updated since 2006.

[orulz]

OK, so that rendering was in the May 7th 2007 edition of the newspaper.

But still. Cool project, if it's still in the works.

[JerseyBoy]

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that until I looked a few posts back. I could have sworn these were new.

Anyway, I would imagine that the city is preoccupied with the ballpark deal at this time and talk could resume in early summer or fall.

[Piedmont Airlines]

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that until I looked a few posts back. I could have sworn these were new.

Anyway, I would imagine that the city is preoccupied with the ballpark deal at this time and talk could resume in early summer or fall.

[JerseyBoy]

Will this project get put on the backburner by civic plaza like the ballpark did to civic plaza?

[winston's finest]

http://www.winstonsalemskyscrapers.com/for...topic.php?t=738

on the W-s Tallest forum, someone mentioned there was a meeting held about Union Station yesterday. Hope to eventually see some plans for this project to move ahead. I love the idea and there is no reason for there not to be a train depot in the city. Especially with all the students in the city. I go to school in VA and many students use the train for traveling.

[twincity]

updates...

The renovation of Union Station would reuse all three existing floors. the top floor would be used for transit uses while the 2 bottom floors would be used for retail and office space.

The station would be funded by the city, FTA, PART and NCDOT. early estimates has the project at around $12 million.

the station would serve WSSU, PTRP, Salem College, East Winston and the proposed East Winston Historic District (proposed area is MLK Blvd from 1st to 5th streets. East Winston has a great grid with attractive homes. designating a historic district could erase some of the blight.)

a pedestrian bridge would extend from the top floor with an elevator and staircase leading to the train platform. the bridge would resemble the original bridge that was demolished in 1975! an additional pedestrian bridge is proposed connecting the station to WSSU.

PART, the city and NCDOT are the tenants for the office space.

Mixed-Use Development

slightly clearer

developer Bill Cannon wants to build 107 condos, 44,320 sf of office space and 58,550 of specialty retail space adjacent to the station. i wonder if this is old info or new info. did the developer switch back to condo? maybe so with so many apartments proposed for downtown. maybe in late 2009, when this is scheduled to be u/c, the market will have improved?

[krazeeboi]

Wow...this is a most impressive adaptive reuse/mixed-use development! When is it scheduled to be completed?

[Creasy336]

This is one of my favorite projects in the Triad. I can't wait to catch a train there. Out of curiousity I've seen commuter rail often shown entering downtown Winston-Salem, would that have a positive or negative effect on this station?

[twincity]

Wow...this is a most impressive adaptive reuse/mixed-use development! When is it scheduled to be completed?

[twincity]

This is one of my favorite projects in the Triad. I can't wait to catch a train there. Out of curiousity I've seen commuter rail often shown entering downtown Winston-Salem, would that have a positive or negative effect on this station?

[sax184]

if all goes well, 2011. the station would initially be used for buses. theyre looking at 2015 for rail service.

[JerseyBoy]

2015 is unfortunately a pipe dream. From looking at the PART website, it seems that any efforts to move rail forward are dead or mothballed.

[sax184]

Out of curiosity, why do you say that?

[JerseyBoy]

The following is a set of photos I took of Union Station close to two weeks ago. This structure has very good bones and should look very impressive when renovated! Who in their right mind would gut a beautiful, historic structure for a repair shop?

(taken with camera phone)

Update 7-16-08

Did anyone know Columbian Heights had these historical markers?

[suburban george3]

The following is a set of photos I took of Union Station close to two weeks ago. This structure has very good bones and should look very impressive when renovated! Who in their right mind would gut a beautiful, historic structure for a repair shop?