PROPOSED: 7th Wave Resort (aka Shipwreck Falls)

[runawayjim]

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&amp...7s%2520going.__

this is a better map (livelocal) of where it's going...

looks like a good spot to me

[Recchia]

RIDOT needs to seriously consider adding the two ramps to make Route 4 and 95 a full interchange.

[mental757]

I think I read a past article somewhere that they were. 95N to 4S and 4N to 95S.

[Recchia]

I think I read a past article somewhere that they were. 95N to 4S and 4N to 95S.

Once the relocated 403 is done they were supposed to look into this for better access to Quonset from the southern half of the state. I haven't heard anything in a while though.

[jencoleslaw]

Once the relocated 403 is done they were supposed to look into this for better access to Quonset from the southern half of the state. I haven't heard anything in a while though.

last i heard during the battle of quonset was that there was always only enough $ for part of the 403, never $ for the rest of it...

[mental757]

I went to the public meeting tonight - have some pics to post tomorrow. Nothing earth-shattering to report - just the usual embarassment of being from an area that always draws at least a few uneducated, highly off-based opinioned, stubborn, confrontational nimbys to every proposal. I can only imagine what the developers think about their prosective 'neighbors.'

[Recchia]

On the news last night they said it would be "within a mile" of the proposed casino site, then they showed an aerial of Arctic. So, is this going off the industrial highway (near Cox) or no?

[mental757]

projo article:

http://www.projo.com/westbay/content/projo...lk.32702d3.html

"On the news last night they said it would be "within a mile" of the proposed casino site, then they showed an aerial of Arctic. So, is this going off the industrial highway (near Cox) or no?"

yes it is - at the very end of James P. Murphy Highway (at the culdesac). As soon as I can download the pictures I took at last night's meeting - I'll post them here.

BTW, here is thier website:

www.dialfamilyresorts.com

[mental757]

[Recchia]

projo article:

http://www.projo.com/westbay/content/projo...lk.32702d3.html

"On the news last night they said it would be "within a mile" of the proposed casino site, then they showed an aerial of Arctic. So, is this going off the industrial highway (near Cox) or no?"

yes it is - at the very end of James P. Murphy Highway (at the culdesac). As soon as I can download the pictures I took at last night's meeting - I'll post them here.

BTW, here is thier website:

www.dialfamilyresorts.com

I thought so. News Chopper 12 filming the wrong spot, what a shocker...

Interesting that they want to build a huge amusement park at the end of a dead-end. I wonder if they'll do the 95 interchange even if the casino gets rejected.

[CtownMikey]

i feel like the project is a bit small... why?

[mental757]

the president of Dial said that this is the only site in the U.S. that has a dead-end 4 lane highway with interstate access so close. They LOVE the location. It won't need it's own highway ramp. It's a resort, not an 'open to the public' type set-up. You have to stat there to use the facility (or have an event like a child's birthday party, etc.).

It's not a (physically) huge building. 90 feet max height where the water park part is in the middle and 5 stories of hotel rooms that ring around it.

[chaz200]

projo article:

http://www.projo.com/westbay/content/projo...lk.32702d3.html

"On the news last night they said it would be "within a mile" of the proposed casino site, then they showed an aerial of Arctic. So, is this going off the industrial highway (near Cox) or no?"

yes it is - at the very end of James P. Murphy Highway (at the culdesac). As soon as I can download the pictures I took at last night's meeting - I'll post them here.

BTW, here is thier website:

www.dialfamilyresorts.com

Typical NIMBY quote from that article:

Thomas K. Jones, vice president of West Warwick Citizens Against the Casino, said his group would lobby against the water park as well.

"It's just another dog-and-pony show, to shove the water park down our throats," Jones declared.

LOL, we want low taxes and no development! Oh and increase city services as well!

[runawayjim]

It's a resort, not an 'open to the public' type set-up. You have to stat there to use the facility (or have an event like a child's birthday party, etc.).

booooooooooooooooo.

what's the point of that?

[Recchia]

Other than traffic, which I'm doubting from a traffic engineering standpoint would be significant, I can't see why this would be opposed. It's quite isolated from residential neighborhoods except for that cul-de-sac neighborhood to the east, and it's not like its going to attract what people may deem as unsavory folk. I swear people will oppose anything.

If I were to oppose anything with this project it'd be that it's only accessible by car and therefore limited in its potential to attract those without access to one from our urban areas.

[brick]

the president of Dial said that this is the only site in the U.S. that has a dead-end 4 lane highway with interstate access so close. They LOVE the location. It won't need it's own highway ramp. It's a resort, not an 'open to the public' type set-up. You have to stat there to use the facility (or have an event like a child's birthday party, etc.).

It's not a (physically) huge building. 90 feet max height where the water park part is in the middle and 5 stories of hotel rooms that ring around it.

that makes some sense but then again makes none at all.

Why would a family want to book a vacation just to go to this indoor water park? I guess this is something of a tourist area except in W. Warwick you aren't near anything else that's really tourist-y. I could see an exclusive thing like this in Newport or maybe near Matunuck or Misquamicut. A place where you have the beach nearby and other tourist things to do.

Strange idea if it isn't open to the public. I don't see how it will make enough money.

[runawayjim]

Other than traffic, which I'm doubting from a traffic engineering standpoint would be significant, I can't see why this would be opposed. It's quite isolated from residential neighborhoods except for that cul-de-sac neighborhood to the east, and it's not like its going to attract what people may deem as unsavory folk. I swear people will oppose anything.

If I were to oppose anything with this project it'd be that it's only accessible by car and therefore limited in its potential to attract those without access to one from our urban areas.

it's meant as an all-in-one destination apparently and you can't go there to use it without staying there, which i think sucks, but if that's the way it is, i don't see a problem that it requires the car.

honestly... the car is not a bad thing. i don't understand why so many people on this site are so anti-car.

[Recchia]

it's meant as an all-in-one destination apparently and you can't go there to use it without staying there, which i think sucks, but if that's the way it is, i don't see a problem that it requires the car.

honestly... the car is not a bad thing. i don't understand why so many people on this site are so anti-car.

I know, I'm just trying to show how people would never oppose a project for my reason, but they'll always oppose it for reasons like "increased traffic."

I do however see problems with things that are solely accessible by cars. Thats another topic though and goes way beyond this project.

[runawayjim]

I know, I'm just trying to show how people would never oppose a project for my reason, but they'll always oppose it for reasons like "increased traffic."

I do however see problems with things that are solely accessible by cars. Thats another topic though and goes way beyond this project.

if this place becomes not solely for people staying at the hotel there, i think we'll see bus service to it.

public transit in this state needs to be better considering there are so many attractions and they aren't really all that far apart.

[yossarian]

that makes some sense but then again makes none at all.

Why would a family want to book a vacation just to go to this indoor water park? I guess this is something of a tourist area except in W. Warwick you aren't near anything else that's really tourist-y. I could see an exclusive thing like this in Newport or maybe near Matunuck or Misquamicut. A place where you have the beach nearby and other tourist things to do.

Strange idea if it isn't open to the public. I don't see how it will make enough money.

Maybe because they are banking on a casino being right next door.

In my mind the revelation that the water park will be a closed resort, as opposed to an amusement park type destination, adds more credence to the point Jen was making yesterday. I an extremely skeptical that this project would go forward if the casino goes down the tubes in November.

On a related note, it also causes me to give more consideration to the arguments by opponents who suggest the casino will be a drain on existing businesses that depend discretionary/leisure spending, rather than a boost as proponents contend. If the Casino is surrounded by a panoply of self contained, symbiotic resorts, how many of the Casino-goers will be heading to Providence or Newport for a night out? If you think the answer is few, then the next logical question is how many new entertainment dollars will the casino bring to the state versus simply rerouting entertainment dollars that will already be spent here?

[runawayjim]

Maybe because they are banking on a casino being right next door.

In my mind the revelation that the water park will be a closed resort, as opposed to an amusement park type destination, adds more credence to the point Jen was making yesterday. I an extremely skeptical that this project would go forward if the casino goes down the tubes in November.

On a related note, it also causes me to give more consideration to the arguments by opponents who suggest the casino will be a drain on existing businesses that depend discretionary/leisure spending, rather than a boost as proponents contend. If the Casino is surrounded by a panoply of self contained, symbiotic resorts, how many of the Casino-goers will be heading to Providence or Newport for a night out? If you think the answer is few, then the next logical question is how many new entertainment dollars will the casino bring to the state versus simply rerouting entertainment dollars that will already be spent here?

no idea on the new entertainment dollars from the casino, but it would definitely keep pepole from going out in providence or newport or anywhere but the casino or the places nearby (which aren't many). i know people who would rather go spend $5-6 on a pint at a bar in mohegan sun than find a local bar in the town they live in. while the bar there is nice, it's really freaking expensive. $5 for a regular pint of guinness, $6 for one of those rounded guinness glasses (20oz?).

[Recchia]

Maybe if the casino falls through they'll open this thing as more of a public amusement park. That'd be nice.

[runawayjim]

Maybe if the casino falls through they'll open this thing as more of a public amusement park. That'd be nice.

i have a feeling that might happen if the casino falls through and they actually follow through with their plans.

[Liamlunchtray]

it's meant as an all-in-one destination apparently and you can't go there to use it without staying there, which i think sucks, but if that's the way it is, i don't see a problem that it requires the car.

What a lousy idea. I like having things locally that I could take my kids to for a nice afternoon. I'm certainly not going to pay for a hotel in west warwick just to ride some waterslides. I guess I had thought it would be like a normal water park, just enclosed and with a Hotel attached. Bah! We'll just end up at Misquamicut instead.

[jencoleslaw]

the president of Dial said that this is the only site in the U.S. that has a dead-end 4 lane highway with interstate access so close. They LOVE the location. It won't need it's own highway ramp. It's a resort, not an 'open to the public' type set-up. You have to stat there to use the facility (or have an event like a child's birthday party, etc.).

It's not a (physically) huge building. 90 feet max height where the water park part is in the middle and 5 stories of hotel rooms that ring around it.

i don't understand how its going to make money if it isn't open to the public. Is the business model really that five floors of hotel rooms will be bought out by folks and their kids who will use the water park? I'm really confused. How could he possibly not care if the casino is built? who the heck is going to go there, and stay overnight, in west warwick? please explain. thanks.

oops. guess i should have read the whole thread. Guess i'm not the only one who thinks this is a dumb business model.