Charlotte Coliseum Massive Development - City Park

[KJHburg]

Couple more I forgot to post from the area.  New Tru by Hilton hotel across from the new VA center.  The hotel boom in the suburbs largely unnoticed has added thousands upon thousands of rooms to the Charlotte market.

1. LakePointe Corp. Center where Sealed Air HQ is but this building and another 6 story are owned by BB&T Truist Bank bought before the merger.  and they do own them now. 

2. 4.  new VA Clinic in Charlotte    3.new Tru by Hilton hotel another hotel that will open soon. 

 

[KJHburg]

drove through this area last Friday forgot to post the photos.  This City Park took a long time to get going but it rapidly filling up.  Mix of several apartment complexes, several hotels, little bit of retail, lots of for sale townhomes and a few for sale SF homes.  But you can still see where the Hornets once played at the old Charlotte Coliseum or at least where it stands.  (with old camera)

Really sad to see brand new completed hotels not open yet.  The hotel boom is over at least for a few years in this city and I seriously doubt the Moxy uptown will ever be built or any other not substantially completed hotel.   Look at that new dual brand sitting there empty across from the VA  

Starting photo 3 to end all at City Park.   Brand new Aloft sitting there empty too.  

 

 

 

Edited July 6, 2020 by KJHburg

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Before the coliseum, before the Tyvola extension to the airport, before the parkland, everything in that region was a public dump/landfill, next to a waste/water treatment plant, traversed by high power electric lines. The land was less than worthless. No amount of money would persuade someone to build on it. Once the public improvements were made it (eventually) became the center of business and residential that one sees today, plus park land. 

I once cleaned my basement of a small trailer load of junk and drove to the landfill there to dump. There was a weigh in/out and payment by weight for mixed junk. There is a now 70+ year old outboard motor under there somewhere along with the rest of my stuff, the remainder unremembered and unlamented.

[KJHburg]

Usually this would be not be big news but as far as I know this is the first hotel to be started in Charlotte since Corvid 19 arrived on our shores and destroyed our robust lodging industry so it is significant.

""Charlotte-based Shreeji Hotel Group has broken ground on its $20 million, five-story hotel near Charlotte Douglas International Airport.  That SpringHill Suites by Marriott is slated to open in the first quarter of 2022. The development group has teamed up with Marriott International Inc. (NASDAQ: MAR) on that project, located at 2223 Cascade Pointe Blvd.   “The decision to partner with Marriott in developing a SpringHill Suites felt natural, with the Marriott team working seamlessly alongside us to bring this project to life,” says Akshar Patel, Shreeji CFO and partner.  Shreeji also plans to develop a second luxury brand hotel on that 5.7-acre site as well. ""

from the Biz Journal https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2020/08/14/construction-starts-on-springhill-suites-near-clt.html

there is a brand new dual brand Hilton hotel next door.  

[RANYC]

On 8/14/2020 at 8:42 PM, KJHburg said:

Usually this would be not be big news but as far as I know this is the first hotel to be started in Charlotte since Corvid 19 arrived on our shores and destroyed our robust lodging industry so it is significant.

""Charlotte-based Shreeji Hotel Group has broken ground on its $20 million, five-story hotel near Charlotte Douglas International Airport.  That SpringHill Suites by Marriott is slated to open in the first quarter of 2022. The development group has teamed up with Marriott International Inc. (NASDAQ: MAR) on that project, located at 2223 Cascade Pointe Blvd.   “The decision to partner with Marriott in developing a SpringHill Suites felt natural, with the Marriott team working seamlessly alongside us to bring this project to life,” says Akshar Patel, Shreeji CFO and partner.  Shreeji also plans to develop a second luxury brand hotel on that 5.7-acre site as well. ""

from the Biz Journal https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2020/08/14/construction-starts-on-springhill-suites-near-clt.html

there is a brand new dual brand Hilton hotel next door.  

Sorry to be so negative, but the rendering leaves much to be desired aesthetically.  Maybe I'm not seeing it in the right light, however.

[tozmervo]

1 hour ago, RANYC said:

Sorry to be so negative, but the rendering leaves much to be desired aesthetically.  Maybe I'm not seeing it in the right light, however.

I mean, it's a suburban interstate exit hotel. That rendering is probably pretty accurate. 

[RANYC]

5 minutes ago, tozmervo said:

I mean, it's a suburban interstate exit hotel. That rendering is probably pretty accurate. 

No issues with accuracy.  I personally find the hotel especially plain and unattractive, and I've seen far better from new Springhill Suites properties, even when adjacent to an interchange or near an interstate.  But alas, when you lack direction in design standards, the void gets filled with such renderings.  I suppose in this economy, the argument will get made that we should be grateful there's even a rooftop.  I'm not raging, just commenting:).

[KJHburg]

Hmm this is sharp looking proposed office building in City Park by Beacon.  

https://beacondevelopment.com/properties/building/5338/city-park

Edited January 19, 2021 by KJHburg

[KJHburg]

^^^ the one thing about this and its twin building is that it the exact site of the old Charlotte Coliseum where the Hornets debuted and the great scoreboard crash happened.  the lake seems to the be depressed bowl of it.  

[KJHburg]

This project looks great.  3 hotels, some restaurants and Starbucks, SF homes, townhomes and rental apartments. 

Meritage is building townhomes like a Mother.  They have 36 single family homes that all have waitlists for purchase. 

Love the willow oaks were saved from the old entrance room the original Hive aka Charlotte Coliseum.  Adding housing in this area is a great thing so close to the city, the airport, office parks etc.  Today from my drive and walk about .

Every townhome you see is under construction is sold but 2!  Lots of photos but it has been a while since last out there.  

City Park Charlotte - The historic Charlotte Coliseum district

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It is possible to drive from Yorkmont to Tyvola going around and through this area. I did it a month ago after visiting the regional farmer market on Yorkmont. 

[KJHburg]

This rezoning was approved for new apartments behind the VA Clinic.  The reason is this is important is that the city staff was opposed as they said it was not close enough to grocery stores the 15 minute city.  However more housing is needed in the area to support a grocery store and since we have a shortage of housing this is good that the city council voted for it.

From the Biz Journal

""A petition by Childress Klein Properties and Dominion Realty Partners to allow for the rezoning of 24.4 acres in west Charlotte to bring in 80 single-family attached homes and 310 multifamily units. The property is southeast of W. Tyvola Road and northeast of Billy Graham Parkway, west of Interstate 77. The approval changes the vacant parcel from light industrial conditional zoning to urban residential conditional. The single-family homes in development Area A will have a height limit of 48 feet and a maximum of 16 buildings. Area B, the multifamily portion, will have a maximum of 11 buildings with a height limit of 62 feet. There will be at least 9,000 square feet of open space between the two development areas. The petitioner will provide no less than 6% of units in the multifamily development to be reserved for households earning 80% or less of the AMI.""

[KJHburg]

CityPark the old Charlotte Coliseum site is nearing completion.  3 hotels including a dual brand, some retail, lots of apartments, for sale townhomes, a few single family rentals.  Once proposed was office space but now none is planned (and there is plenty nearby)   The newest apartments #11 on the map are going the exact location of the Coliseum and the rest was mainly parking.    Teenager @TheRealClaytonwatched Hornets games here as did I.   I was there a couple of days before the new scoreboard fell. 

https://cityparkcharlotte.com/community/     The row of willow oaks was planted for the entrance road to the Coliseum and they still remain.  New plan includes SF home rentals I guessing by one of the large investors. 

 

[CLT Development]

On 5/7/2022 at 11:49 AM, KJHburg said:

CityPark the old Charlotte Coliseum site is nearing completion.  3 hotels including a dual brand, some retail, lots of apartments, for sale townhomes, a few single family rentals.  Once proposed was office space but now none is planned (and there is plenty nearby)   The newest apartments #11 on the map are going the exact location of the Coliseum and the rest was mainly parking.    Teenager @TheRealClaytonwatched Hornets games here as did I.   I was there a couple of days before the new scoreboard fell. 

https://cityparkcharlotte.com/community/     The row of willow oaks was planted for the entrance road to the Coliseum and they still remain.  New plan includes SF home rentals I guessing by one of the large investors. 

 

Teenager? I started attending games there when I was 3 years old

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First game I saw there and first game there ever, as I recall, was the 1988 Olympic squad, summer of '88. The team had a scrimmage with the top college players which made up the Olympic team versus an NBA All Star team. This was the last year the Olympics team was "amateurs". The Dream Team was in place in 1992. 

That place was enormous. 

 

[KJHburg]

3 hours ago, CLT Development said:

Teenager? I started attending games there when I was 3 years old

sorry my friend for casting you older!  were you one of those screaming kids near me at a game LOL?

Muggsy Bogues, Kelly Tripuka, Rex Chapman, Dell Curry  etc.  

[KJHburg]

any of us who remember driving down the main entrance boulevard to the old Charlotte Coliseum on Tyvola remember this line of trees on both sides of the massive parking lots.  Right @tarhoosierand @CLT Development ?      I saw Hornets games here in the early years,  the scoreboard the day before it fell,  U2's concert here etc. 

It is almost completely built out now with some of the last apartments being built right where the old Coliseum stood.  The rest of the side has already been developed with a mixture of 3 hotels, some retail, for sale townhomes, multiple apartment complexes, and even some single family homes.  This is important in this area as there was no housing nearby and now people can bike or walk to work at the suburban office parks next door or across the street.  This area had a lot of jobs but not much housing but that has all changed with City Park.  This has been a major success in mind in supporting these office parks in the area and the other employers in the area which is very close to the airport.  

in the photo with the stairway tower is the exact spot of the old Coliseum.  Even Jock and Jills is revived as it depended on Coliseum and office workers now there are residents nearby which is a big change from when it opened.  

to many of you it is just a suburban oriented development but to me it is a part of history.  Without the building that once stood here there would be no Charlotte Hornets today and it was built because Charlotte was tired of losing ACC and NCAA basketball tournaments to Greensboro and other cities. 

aerial photo courtesy of Charlotte Magazine

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The STRANGE-est thing I ever saw there was Benny Hinn. 

You can find him on the web and youtube touching and kissing the afflicted, and they fall to the floor in a healing seizure. Annointing healing as he names it. 30 years ago it was more dramatic and full of shouting and tears and casting out demons.

But the crowd of people, it was astounding. Desperate, hoping, clinging to their family members. 

We went one afternoon to collect our Hornets pre-season tickets from the Coliseum (no brand name, just charlotte Coliseum) and there were vehicles unloading people on stretchers and gurneys and those with crutches and every infirmity imaginable hobbling, dragging, struggling to his service(?). I had never heard of him until that afternoon when he was performing his spiritual magic for the believers. 

 

Edited December 11, 2022 by tarhoosier

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I think this is it:

Click through to the latter part of the service; healing cancer, raising those confined to wheelchairs, preventing amputations. LOOK at the size of that crowd in a 24,000 seat arena. Imagine the procession of the sick, lame and injured into the coliseum, Far, far more than what came on stage and on camera and that is what I saw. Astounding.

Edited December 11, 2022 by tarhoosier

[KJHburg]

More from the Coliseum area West Tyvola and Billy Graham Parkway.  from yesterday. 

Charlotte VA Medical Center and a new dual brand hotel by Hilton.  More apartments coming in this area formerly zoned for office and believe it or not there was some resistance to this rezoning.  In my view that is the only way these suburban office parks will be made viable by mixing some uses in like residential.  Total of 4 hotels at West Tyvola and Billy Graham just on the east side closer to uptown. 

This last photo shows another parcel that is being rezoned for apartment from office.  However the demand for suburban office space has really gone down unless is a mixed use environment.

https://charlottenc.gov/planning/Rezoning/RezoningPetitions/2022-Petitions/2022-103/Pages/default.aspx   I sure this passes as well to add residents in an area where there are lots of jobs. 

[Spburn2]

Does anyone know what Land & Pope are planning for their three undeveloped parcels (#1, 2, and 10 on their map here: https://www.popeandland.com/property/city-park/)? They filed a site plan amendment earlier this year (record RZP-2023-012). 

[KJHburg]

9 hours ago, Spburn2 said:

Does anyone know what Land & Pope are planning for their three undeveloped parcels (#1, 2, and 10 on their map here: https://www.popeandland.com/property/city-park/)? They filed a site plan amendment earlier this year (record RZP-2023-012). 

they seem to be making tweaking their entitlements.  I think the parcel 10 is planned for townhomes  and the others are more commercial uses.  

https://cityparkcharlotte.com/app/uploads/2023/04/City-Park-Aerials-Outlined-2023-4-12.pdf

More documents will be filed here but it is early in the rezoning process

https://www.charlottenc.gov/Growth-and-Development/Planning-and-Development/Rezoning/2023/012

[KJHburg]

Last few parcels set to be developed in the City Park project aka old Charlotte Coliseum site.  

It took 17 years, but final plans are settling in for old Charlotte Coliseum site (aol.com)

This has been a 17 year project but the last pacels seem to be destined to be a new hotel brand to town and more housing.  

Microsoft PowerPoint - City Park Aerials - Outlined 2024-2-10 (popeandland.com)

 

Edited March 12 by KJHburg

[KJHburg]

was in this area today and this project is finishing up.  Another hotel and some more townhomes are planned on the final tracts see map above.  But on the former site of the Charlotte Coliseum is now a thriving community with 3 hotels, some retail, 100s, and 100s of apartments, for sale townhomes, and for sale single-family homes all in one large mixed-use site.  The grand entrance to the old Coliseum is still there with the large oaks planted there during the glory days of the Coliseum.   It's really a successful mixed use project. 

[KJHburg]

Lake Pointe Corporate Center home of VA clinic and Sealed Air HQ among other office buildings now has 4 hotels including another one under construction.   Plus 2 apartment communities are under construction on land formerly zoned office park.  

One is called Perimter Pointe Apartments and the other called Lakepointe Apartments both by Dominion Realty Partners.  

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