Jones_ Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Market Raleigh as a technology and arts center. Play up RTP, Centennial Campus, the universities, etc, etc. even if they are not located downtown. Get free wi-fi rolled out along Fayetteville Street to compliment outdoor areas and for the convenience of visitors. Get a central library down near site 1 and 4, with a visitors center incorporating City and State info. Make sure the site 1 and 4 buildings feel like they represent one of the leading edge technology centers in the world. Incorporate a central arts "hall" in the visitors center with a map to each gallary, including CAM and Artspace and others. A schedule of upcoming Hurricanes games should be up. A shrine to Duke State and UNC NCAA basketball champioships should be near the visitors center. Placards touting big name companies and institutions like Red Hat and the Duke Cancer center. Everything that we are, everthing that we are proud of as a region should be reflected in the center of the region. We have to posture ourselves as the Center of all that is RDU. It takes the landmark buildings we are getting built. It takes the voice of our elected leaders. It takes the finer touches....the residents, the glassy buildings, the historic buildings. The Downtown Raleigh Alliance should consider moving to ground floor space at Site 1. From that vantage advertise our regional attractions from downtown. Bring people downtown to learn about the larger area. Something like that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRNC Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I would defintely increase the size of all the street signs along Fayetteville St. and increase the signs to points of interest downtown. Also play up the historical walking trail downtown which nobody seems to even know about. I stumbled by the Mordecai House by accident one day and didn't understand why there were no signs to the place. Connectivity, which people have brought up before, is one of the keys to making this thing work. Downtown has all these little cool places (Warehouse district, Glenwood, Powerhouse Square, Moore Square/City Market, etc.) but they feel they are so far away from each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 (edited) I've had an idea floating around in my head for the past week or so about a NC famous people museum. I think it would be a great addition to downtown, and something that wouldnt only be cool for Raleigh, but for the entire state. I just went out to go to the store and heard a radio ad about visitraleigh.com. It was pretty catchy, and they even had a cute little slogan "City life..Carolina style" Edited December 10, 2005 by Damien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDC Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Judging by the number of tall buildings in the area, it seems there's plenty of jobs downtown. Now it seems they need more homes downtown to bring a little more life to the area (especially on weekends). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxpalmer Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Market Raleigh as a technology and arts center. Play up RTP, Centennial Campus, the universities, etc, etc. even if they are not located downtown. Get free wi-fi rolled out along Fayetteville Street to compliment outdoor areas and for the convenience of visitors. Get a central library down near site 1 and 4, with a visitors center incorporating City and State info. Make sure the site 1 and 4 buildings feel like they represent one of the leading edge technology centers in the world. Incorporate a central arts "hall" in the visitors center with a map to each gallary, including CAM and Artspace and others. A schedule of upcoming Hurricanes games should be up. A shrine to Duke State and UNC NCAA basketball champioships should be near the visitors center. Placards touting big name companies and institutions like Red Hat and the Duke Cancer center. Everything that we are, everthing that we are proud of as a region should be reflected in the center of the region. We have to posture ourselves as the Center of all that is RDU. It takes the landmark buildings we are getting built. It takes the voice of our elected leaders. It takes the finer touches....the residents, the glassy buildings, the historic buildings. The Downtown Raleigh Alliance should consider moving to ground floor space at Site 1. From that vantage advertise our regional attractions from downtown. Bring people downtown to learn about the larger area. Something like that anyway. my thoughts EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raleightransplant Posted December 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 The point about making DT Raleigh the center of all that is RDU...I certainly agree with Additionally, and to me most importantly, Raleigh needs to be marketed as the fun place to be for the region. The fact that Chapel Hill still kind of holds this distinction is borderline ridiculous to me. Downtown Raleigh already has a ton of fun places to listen to a band, catch an art crawl, go to a performance at the theater, etc. It needs to capitalize on that I think. RTP is great and all, but let's face it....The place is damn boring to much of the outside world. Yes, it does contribute to this place in ways words can't describe. Bottom line though, is that a strong and FUN downtown Raleigh is what needs to be marketed. You want people leaving (or better yet..not leaving at all)and telling their friends about the great time they had shopping, dining, etc. And for locals, Raleigh can be that place where your worries melt away from the day at work after a wild night on the town. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR-2 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I think Raleigh will always be competing with Durham and Chapel Hill for nightlife. Eventually the sheer number of residents and the sheer amount of money downtown will make the place interesting. Those are things Durham and Chapel Hill are far behind on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleighsfinest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I feel as though Raleigh is in another league, much higher league when it comes to nightlife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleighsfinest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 I'd like to know what you guys envision Raleigh as 14 years from now. It will be a city of about 520,000. What's your vision what would you like to see more of. How much of the landscape, do you think will change. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfromcarolina Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hopefully we will have some kind of Highspeed Rail by that point. I envision midtown (atlantic ave. to crabtree) being really upscale and flourishing. Cary will be even more sprawling and monotonous than ever, with Apex and Holly Springs not too far behind. On the brightside I think downtown will have some "true" skyscrapers 40 stories plus. The airport will be finished with both new terminals A and C renamed to A and B, and the second parking deck will be complete. Southpointe, Triangle Center and White Oak Malls (in Garner) will be main focuses of retail along with established North Hills and Crabtree. And Brier Creek southwest to Highway 55 will be the most exclusive area of the triangle stretching well in to Durham County. 2020 my Future populations estimates: Raleigh- 526,000 Durham- 302,000 Cary- 205,000 Chapel Hill-115,000 Wake Forest- 100,000 Apex- 60,000 Knightdale-40,000 Garner- 32,000 Clayton- 26,000 Triangle at large 2.2 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdp Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 that is so weird to me... when i was in high school (not too terribly long ago) wake forest had a little over 6000 residents. it is like the town is on steroids. I can't believe all those people don't mind sitting in bumper to bumper traffic on capital blvd morning and night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subway Scoundrel Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hopefully we will have some kind of Highspeed Rail by that point. I envision midtown (atlantic ave. to crabtree) being really upscale and flourishing. Cary will be even more sprawling and monotonous than ever, with Apex and Holly Springs not too far behind. On the brightside I think downtown will have some "true" skyscrapers 40 stories plus. The airport will be finished with both new terminals A and C renamed to A and B, and the second parking deck will be complete. Southpointe, Triangle Center and White Oak Malls (in Garner) will be main focuses of retail along with established North Hills and Crabtree. And Brier Creek southwest to Highway 55 will be the most exclusive area of the triangle stretching well in to Durham County. 2020 my Future populations estimates: Raleigh- 526,000 Durham- 302,000 Cary- 205,000 Chapel Hill-115,000 Wake Forest- 100,000 Apex- 60,000 Knightdale-40,000 Garner- 32,000 Clayton- 26,000 Triangle at large 2.2 million When that number of 526K offered up, is that not Wake County?, which would already include Cary, WF, Apex, KD and Garner? Or was it only Raleigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdp Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) ^^wake county already has over 750,000 residents Edited February 6, 2006 by bdp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleighsfinest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Wake county has 775,000 residents currenty. 2020 I guess ehh, around 1,000,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR-2 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) I think Carrboro will surprise everyone and outgrow Chapel Hill. Edited February 7, 2006 by MR-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMetroRaleigh Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Those figures for Chapel Hill are way too robust. Chapel Hill is pretty anti-growth and housing is scarce and overpriced. 65,000 is more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccall Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 The airport will be finished with both new terminals A and C renamed to A and B, and the second parking deck will be complete. This is where you lost me I agree that we will have new terminals, but given that the Airport Authority is running the show, they will be named "Terminal 1" and "Terminal C". Better yet, they'll probably scrap the current site and build a new one for the Triangle near Sanford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones_ Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hopefully we will have some kind of Highspeed Rail by that point. I envision midtown (atlantic ave. to crabtree) being really upscale and flourishing. Cary will be even more sprawling and monotonous than ever, with Apex and Holly Springs not too far behind. On the brightside I think downtown will have some "true" skyscrapers 40 stories plus. The airport will be finished with both new terminals A and C renamed to A and B, and the second parking deck will be complete. Southpointe, Triangle Center and White Oak Malls (in Garner) will be main focuses of retail along with established North Hills and Crabtree. And Brier Creek southwest to Highway 55 will be the most exclusive area of the triangle stretching well in to Durham County. 2020 my Future populations estimates: Raleigh- 526,000 Durham- 302,000 Cary- 205,000 Chapel Hill-115,000 Wake Forest- 100,000 Apex- 60,000 Knightdale-40,000 Garner- 32,000 Clayton- 26,000 Triangle at large 2.2 million You backing up these #'s with anything or are these strictly your numbers. When I moved to Wake Forest in 1987 it had about 2500 people. There is no plan to densify so assuming the entire ETJ is filled with subdivisions you might double to around 50,000. Thats my guess To anyone interested, there is a master plan of road realignments for WF either on the town website or at a DOT website that is pretty interesting....Ligon Mill gets extended all the way to Stadium drive, Falls of Neuse goes straight into downtown along the current 98 alignment, 98 reidentifies itself along the bypasses entire length, several downtown streets get extended to make the grid somewhat complete albeit a bit suburban in nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfromcarolina Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Wake Forest Has tons of room to expand to the east to highway 401. Maybe 100,000 is a bit high. Yeah those are just guesses based on population trends, potential growth and road access to certain areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCpride Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is where you lost me I agree that we will have new terminals, but given that the Airport Authority is running the show, they will be named "Terminal 1" and "Terminal C". Better yet, they'll probably scrap the current site and build a new one for the Triangle near Sanford Yeah, I agree that the Chapel Hill numbers are way too inflated. Part of the identity of Chapel Hill is being a smaller college town, and I don't think we'll see that go anywhere. I would say the Garner numbers are low, especially with that mall going up close by, and easier access to a renewed downtown Raleigh. As for RDU, I would just like to ask the forum if others have as much trouble with luggage as I do. It seriously takes waaaay to long to pick up a checked bag - like 30 minutes minimum. Maybe it is just me, but I think RDU is one of the worst airports for waiting on baggage. Does anyone else have this problem, or know a reason for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleighsfinest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yeah 100,000 does seem a bit high. I think the Raleigh figures are a tad conservative. More like 550,000. Wow just thinking about it, makes you realize this area will be a major metropolitan area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones_ Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Wake Forest Has tons of room to expand to the east to highway 401. Maybe 100,000 is a bit high. Yeah those are just guesses based on population trends, potential growth and road access to certain areas. Rolesville straddles 401...WF won't go much further east past Heritage....I'll give 100k at build-out but only 50k by 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumboman Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I think downtown Raleigh really needs some more sports bars due to the college basketball in the area and the carolina hurricanes. with regards to marketing, play off of the success of the canes and the pack and tell fans to come downtown to celebrate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccall Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 "Log Into The Future" "Raleigh, North Carolina's NETtropolis" "America's New City" "Mycity, USA" "teknically.lovable" "the Envy of N.C." "R-space" "R-Town" "It's Rrrraleigh cool" "Raleigh, What happens in Raleigh, stays...the envy of everyone else." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanesq Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 "Log Into The Future" "Raleigh, North Carolina's NETtropolis" "America's New City" "Mycity, USA" "teknically.lovable" "the Envy of N.C." "R-space" "R-Town" "It's Rrrraleigh cool" "Raleigh, What happens in Raleigh, stays...the envy of everyone else." I've always liked the tried and true "Raleighwood" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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