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Furman Condo/Hotel Tower

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In todays print CBJ, it is reported that Boulevard Centro was the selected bidder for the 1/3 acre parcel at Caldwell and Trade sts.

Blvd Centro apparantly partner with a hotel developer, and 150 hotel rooms will be included in the 25-story condo tower.......also, there will be ground level retail.

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I like that it'll be a BC (Furman) project.. means it'll get done. Were they any renderings?

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Nope....they did break down the floor count though.

1st floor retail

2-8 parking deck

9-17 hotel

18-25 condos

Though I've never been a fan of red-bricking everything, I think this would be an appropriate place for a brick, steel, and glass design.

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Question, for someone not very familiar with the area.

What corner (NE, SW, etc) of Trade & Caldwell is this building going on?

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This would be NW....it will be on the same block as the arena.

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This would be NW....it will be on the same block as the arena.

Very cool. So this is across the street from the big surface parking lot. Would love to see that get developed into something meaningful.

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Yep....this would go on that grass and tree covered plaza that looks too small to hold a large tower. :)

The big surfact lot is where our new federal courthouse will go that finally got approval.

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It's amazing to me that this is even enough land to support a tower...if I'm thinking about the right plot of land. This seems like part of the arena landscaping. I'd need to see a rendering of this one. Wish it were one of the porkchop parcels.

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This is amazing news. I had started to expect a 5 story building after Trammell Crow dropped out. I love skinny towers like they would have done a hundred years ago. It is funny how we are now so used to projects taking up most of a block that it is shock to see s proposal for just a regular little parcel that is just part of a block. I hope this also kicks the YWCA block into gear. It will be nice to see the arena surrounded by towers.

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Wait, are you talking about the plot of land past the retail portion of the arena? With trees and pine needles?! Thats incredible if they want to put a 25 story tower there.

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Does anybody have an up-to-date aerial of the arena, or a site plan or something? The one on Google Maps is old, and I just can't picture it since I've only seen the arena twice myself.

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Does anybody have an up-to-date aerial of the arena, or a site plan or something? The one on Google Maps is old, and I just can't picture it since I've only seen the arena twice myself.

i don't. but, i believe the location being discussed is in the top right corner of the 210 trade web-cam view?

http://oxblue.com/client/flahertycollins/twotentrade/

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http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Arena/webcam.htm

I believe it is this area on the arena block I don't know though.

Too bad the hotel couldn't have actually be incorporated into the design of the arena itself, much like the skydome hotel in toronto, which I have stayed in. I heard that there were a few rooms that faced into the stadium, I am not sure if that was true or not. Was definately an awesome hotel.

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According to the CBJ pic, this IS the tiny sliver of land on the same block as the arena. Skinny tower indeed...this is going to be an engineering feat. Hopefully, something Berkmanesque.

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Why do you call this a architectural feat?

Have you ever heard of a pencil tower, it is a type of tower in Hong Kong, that would easily fit on this lot, I'm just wondering how the parking deck is going to work.

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~struct/resour...ncil_index.html

here are a bunch of pictures of them

http://home.hetnet.nl/~hongkongphotopage/p...nciltowers.html

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So does anyone know what hotel corporation might want to expand into Charlotte? i dont think an upscale hotel is in the mix, but maybe something funky and eclectic, like a boutique hotel maybe a Hotle Indigo or Nikko.

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Why do you call this a architectural feat?

Have you ever heard of a pencil tower, it is a type of tower in Hong Kong, that would easily fit on this lot, I'm just wondering how the parking deck is going to work.

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~struct/resour...ncil_index.html

here are a bunch of pictures of them

http://home.hetnet.nl/~hongkongphotopage/p...nciltowers.html

Thx for the pix. One of these pencil towers would surely look odd on this site...at least for the time being until (hopefully) buildings are put up on adjacent blocks...preferably of similar height. Talk about a sore thumb.

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As far as the hotel, all that was reported is that it would be a Luxury Extended Stay.

The hotel developer is Lodge Works, but they apparantly develop for a variety of brands.

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What is Luxury extended stay, is that the brand or the classification?

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sorry...didn't mean to caps that name....just general category type.

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I kind of like the idea of a pencil tower downtown. You don't have to go as far as Hong Kong to see them as there are a number of them in Myrtle Beach. Many of the towers going up there now were on property that was originally designed for the small 3 story hotels and beach houses that used to be on Ocean Blvd. They are maximizing the land by building towers that are only 2 units to a floor.

The only photo I have of one of this is the ugly ass building called The Palms. Hopefully the design in Charlotte will look a little better than this, but you get the idea of what something like this would look like. Despite the garish color I've always admired the Palms for being one of these pencil towers. The great advantage of a pencil tower to a more conventional place is there are no interior units. A two unit wide tower like the Palm has plenty of windows and balcony space for all of the units and you don't get the feeling that you are living in a tunnel.

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So would this be the second "pencil" tower with Berkman if it gets built? Or was Berkman suppose to be larger then I am thinking?

Great that we're filling in all these little holes. Too bad we have so many.

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I really like that it's adjacent to existing development.....once the arena retail space open, and this opens, it will provide a relatively good streetscape along Trade.

The thing that is really interesting to me is the demand for the parcel. Furman is paying $7M per acre for the site....which is more than what Wachovia paid for their new tower site. Apparantly there was another bid at over $8M per acre that the city declined.

It seems to me that the supply of available parcels may be constraining development activity. While a Trade St. parcel certainly is attractive, I would have to assume that lots of other parcels aren't being developed simply because the owners want to hold onto them as they see land prices skyrocketing.

Of course, I do think there will be a slow-down on development activity in the next couple of years, but I'm enjoying the enthusiasm.

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Furman is paying $7M per acre for the site....which is more than what Wachovia paid for their new tower site. ....

Could that be because it is only 1/3 arce and as a result, commands a higher price? Smaller lots usually cost more/acre than larger ones.

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Did this pop up seemingly out of nowhere? First I've heard about this. More hotel rooms? Wow!

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