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At a recent concert in New York, Barbara Striesand, a well-known liberal Democrat put on a humourous skit showing Pres.Bush as an idiot. Several pro-Bush people in the crowd were obviously not amused and heckled her. She shot back at them quickly using the F word!

People....people who need people....we need MORE high profile people speaking out against this joke of a president.

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^ That's funny even though I'm not a huge fan of her music. Really though, we do need people who are willing to speak out against Bush, but we really don't need anyone else in Hollywood coming out against him. I know there a few educated actors out there, but for the most part, we get stuck with people like George Clooney and Barbara Streisand, who never went to college, and then calling Bush stupid, even though he did. It doesn't really do us on the left any favors.

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College ain't all it's made out to be, Pillsbury. Yes, you might learn a lot, but I can gaurantee you that there are a lot of people out there a hell of a lot smarter than I am that have never stepped foot in a college classroom. Education is not something confined to a classroom.

But then again, it always seems to me that Republicans are much more impressed by status symbols... somebody with a degree is obviously smarter than any one without a degree. My house is bigger, we're better off and so on.

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^ Don't get me wrong, I'm not a college snob by any means and I love to pick on Bush just as much as the next left-wing socialist.

I do, however, believe that these Hollywood types are not doing us any favors by attacking Bush, especially in the way they do it. No matter what, their argument always boils down to "Bush is stupid." There is no substance to it. You know what it becomes? It becomes a talisman that all liberals can where around our necks so we can feel superior to the rest of America. Bush is dumb and so are all Republicans. It get's old after so long.

Okay, Bush is stupid. He is the dumbest man in the history of the world; dumber the Forrest Gump even!! Okay, great, you had me at stupid, okay. Now let's discuss the world events without reducing everything to the lowest common denominator. Can we discuss this stuff without insulting people? Is that too much for me to ask?

Also, I wonder who would win an IQ test between Bush, Clooney and Streisand?

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Sure, it's okay for people to speak their minds. Famous liberals do it all the time. But to call people the f-word over a difference of opinion? I hope her ticket sales drop off for that and that alone. You don't bite the hand that feeds you and she needs to remember how she got so rich and famous... it certainly isn't because of the way she pronounces her words, or because of her looks.

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Sure, it's okay for people to speak their minds. Famous liberals do it all the time. But to call people the f-word over a difference of opinion? I hope her ticket sales drop off for that and that alone. You don't bite the hand that feeds you and she needs to remember how she got so rich and famous... it certainly isn't because of the way she pronounces her words, or because of her looks.

She's a pompous b*tch anyway, I personally can't stand her. Though I cannot stand Bush or pretty much any Republican these days, petty name-calling like this gets nobody anywhere. This isn't an elementary school playground, let's grow up people. Celebrities might be one of the most immature groups of people in this country. If you want to insult Bush then bring up the plethora of errors that he has committed instead of calling him names like a 12-year old.

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^ Don't get me wrong, I'm not a college snob by any means and I love to pick on Bush just as much as the next left-wing socialist.

I do, however, believe that these Hollywood types are not doing us any favors by attacking Bush, especially in the way they do it. No matter what, their argument always boils down to "Bush is stupid." There is no substance to it. You know what it becomes? It becomes a talisman that all liberals can where around our necks so we can feel superior to the rest of America. Bush is dumb and so are all Republicans. It get's old after so long.

Okay, Bush is stupid. He is the dumbest man in the history of the world; dumber the Forrest Gump even!! Okay, great, you had me at stupid, okay. Now let's discuss the world events without reducing everything to the lowest common denominator. Can we discuss this stuff without insulting people? Is that too much for me to ask?

Also, I wonder who would win an IQ test between Bush, Clooney and Streisand?

you'd be surprised if you learned how many celebrities, especially movie stars, went to college and where they went.

for instance... the olsen twins are at NYU, claire danes and jodie foster (and i'm sure others but these are all i can think of off the top of my head) went to yale (my yalie ex-girlfriend told me claire danes is a beotch), and for some reason i can't htink of the others i knew off the top of my head. bill cosby has a PhD i believe.

celebrities aren't necessarily dumb just because they're actors or not involved in the sciences or business or whatever other "intelligent" industry there is.

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you'd be surprised if you learned how many celebrities, especially movie stars, went to college and where they went.

for instance... the olsen twins are at NYU, claire danes and jodie foster (and i'm sure others but these are all i can think of off the top of my head) went to yale (my yalie ex-girlfriend told me claire danes is a beotch), and for some reason i can't htink of the others i knew off the top of my head. bill cosby has a PhD i believe.

celebrities aren't necessarily dumb just because they're actors or not involved in the sciences or business or whatever other "intelligent" industry there is.

Yeah, but Claire Danes (who I can definately see being a total beotch) or the Olsen twins aren't out calling Bush stupid or yelling expletives about him. I guarantee you that Claire Danes would be able to articulate a valid argument against Bush without falling into the standard argument: "But he's an idiot!!! He's so stupid!!!"

I'm not casting a wide net over all celebrities and saying they're dumb as dirt just because they act; nor am I questioning the intellegience of people who've never been to college. And believe me, I was a liberal arts major, which is seen as BS to most people. Quick joke: what does a liberal arts major ask an Engineering major? Do you want fries with that? :rofl: Okay, bad joke.

All I'm asking is that people discuss the issues in a mature way. Streisand can't do that. She walks on stage, makes a joke about how stupid Bush is, uses the F word a few times, and then expects the audience to just roar with laughter and then she criticizes people who get upset about it.

My point is, people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks, and if Clooney and Streisand want to go on and on about how dumb Bush is then I suggest they at least present me with some evidence as to how smart they are, because at this point, it's like Pat Robertson calling Jerry Falwell an extremist--hyprocrisy at its best!!!

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All I'm asking is that people discuss the issues in a mature way. Streisand can't do that. She walks on stage, makes a joke about how stupid Bush is, uses the F word a few times, and then expects the audience to just roar with laughter and then she criticizes people who get upset about it.

It was a concert. One could argue that a joke about the president's intelligence is more appropriate to that forum than a serious discussion of the issues. People were there to be entertained, not to be lectured on the Iraq war. How many times has Saturday Night Live poked fun at the president's intelligence over the last six years? Streisand used the F-word when people in the crowd started heckling her (BTW, what is up with the right wing's inability to take a joke?). That's an understandable way for any performer to vent their frustration at being heckled. This whole thing is a non-issue.

If i had to guess between Bush, Streisand, and Clooney, I would wager that Streisand has the highest IQ. I'm sure she's perfectly capable of discussing the merits of her opinions, but I don't believe a humorous skit in a concert is the right place for that discussion.

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^ It's her concert, she can do whatever she wants. But as a joke (and I'll say this about Bill Maher (who I'm a huge fan of) or SNL, the joke has gotten old and tired (though I'm guilty of having laughed at more than a few Bush jokes over the last year).

Look, Streisand is probably one of the most well-known liberals in America right now---she's up there with Chevy Chase (who I admire) and Susan Sarandon. If she really believes in the Democratic Pary like she says does, then do something that's going to actually help the party. We need to win this November, not alienate half of America. She should understand that, but she doesn't.

I wanted to edit this point this post to ask the following: What were Bush supporters doing at a Streisand concert anyway?

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I wanted to edit this point this post to ask the following: What were Bush supporters doing at a Streisand concert anyway?

i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say... maybe because they like her music? :whistling:

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i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say... maybe because they like her music? :whistling:

I think it's funny that a bunch of conservatives buying tickets to see one of the most visible liberals in the country. They might as well make their checks made payable to the DNC. :)

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I think it's funny that a bunch of conservatives buying tickets to see one of the most visible liberals in the country. They might as well make their checks made payable to the DNC. :)

music is not necessarily political. honestly, if i was a fan of streisand, i probably would've been surprised by the little skit having gone to the concert and expecting only music.

there are conservative fans of some of the most liberal bands out there (pearl jam, phish, grateful dead, etc). music is music.

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^ Oh yeah, believe me, I almost fell out of my chair when I found Anne Coulter of all people was a Grateful Dead fan.

OMG, Pillsbury, that is a horrible thought. Ann Coulter is one person I can live without.

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....She walks on stage, makes a joke about how stupid Bush is, uses the F word a few times, and then expects the audience to just roar with laughter and then she criticizes people who get upset about it. .....

The audience very loudly applauded her for her remarks. I always say the proof is in the pudding.

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At a recent concert in New York, Barbara Striesand, a well-known liberal Democrat put on a humourous skit showing Pres.Bush as an idiot. Several pro-Bush people in the crowd were obviously not amused and heckled her. She shot back at them quickly using the F word!

People....people who need people....we need MORE high profile people speaking out against this joke of a president.

Nothing like Bush supporters trying to tell people they have no First Amendment rights. Follow the piper...

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Ann Coulter was on Fox News today as I was flipping through the stations on Hannity and Colmes and she was butting out Colmes when he was asking her questions.. and he patiently waits. Alan.. YOU'RE TOO MEEK! The man is a true liberal... but he needs that passion.. that radical "I might not beat you at Football Ann Coulter, but I'd kick your @$$ at Trivial Pursuit!" wild hair...

And then Hannity went into blaming Clinton for North Korea, all the problems in the world.. and for the undercooked bacon at breakfast that morning...

Oh well, Fox News is a joke anyway... and Ann Coulter is their poster-child.

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Sure, it's okay for people to speak their minds. Famous liberals do it all the time. But to call people the f-word over a difference of opinion?
And neo-cons speak their minds daily on Fox News. Do I think what Babs did is OK? No. But at least she didn't drop the f-bomb on the floor of the United States Senate as Vice President Cheney did.

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And neo-cons speak their minds daily on Fox News. Do I think what Babs did is OK? No. But at least she didn't drop the f-bomb on the floor of the United States Senate as Vice President Cheney did.

and she didn't call anyone F-something. she said "shut the F up".

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OMG, Pillsbury, that is a horrible thought. Ann Coulter is one person I can live without.

I was scared to listen to Grateful Dead after that, thinking Jerry Garcia was really a supply-side conservative!!

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The audience very loudly applauded her for her remarks. I always say the proof is in the pudding.

I understand, it's just that at the end of the day, I jask what good it did for the Democrats. Probably very little. Right now people are confused and we need people who can explain our positions to America without resorting to our base emotions---unlike conservatives who can't seem to do anything right now without insulting someone, but I believe liberals are on a higher level than that.......

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