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US Population to Hit 300 Million Soon


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I'm glad the rich forumers here got some of their hard earned money back so my college tuition was harder to pay for.
That's another topic, but you didn't need to go to a private school..

Decisions, decisions, decisions.

What you are missing, Moonshield, is that people are going to immigrate to the US whether we want them to or not. Lets stop arguing over this point, and go ahead and document and tax them, no matter what income they make from their initial menial job once they get here.

No they won't. If we make this place unfriendly, they won't be able to. That means, for the illegals, NO public schools, NO public housing, NO healthcare (in ANY case), NO anchor baby policy, very harsh penalties for employment or renting out to/of illegals (lose business licenses), and immediate deportation on discovery. Add an electric fence and 50,000 troops on the border with the ability to shoot to kill, and there would be no issue aside from an angry Vicente Fox.

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Talk about some GOOD authentic Mexican food! You'll have to know a lil' bit of Spanish, not many there speak English.

You cant go wrong with Mexican food in NC! Ive always wondered why you get to a certain point between Virginia and Maryland, the mexican food changes and gets worse up north.

I cant even eat Mexican food in Central Jersey until at least i get into the Shenadoah Valley if im heading south.

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Go to the Hispanic district in your town (if the hispanic pop is big enough to support one) and go the local Tacquerias. Especially the ones with the old women who make the tortillas fresh. Talk about some GOOD authentic Mexican food! You'll have to know a lil' bit of Spanish, not many there speak English.

Thanks, I will try that. I've heard of a few places around that sound like that. A bit off the beaten path though. For some reason, the Hispanic population in Augusta live in the suburbs.

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No they won't. If we make this place unfriendly, they won't be able to. That means, for the illegals, NO public schools, NO public housing, NO healthcare (in ANY case), NO anchor baby policy, very harsh penalties for employment or renting out to/of illegals (lose business licenses), and immediate deportation on discovery. Add an electric fence and 50,000 troops on the border with the ability to shoot to kill, and there would be no issue aside from an angry Vicente Fox.

OK, I stand corrected, you are right, if we forget this pansy PC crap, and shoot to kill, no questions asked, or, um, a warning uttered, then yeah, we could crack down on it. A little. But we'd be a police state of the worst dimensions by then, cops with impunity, and power to do what they will. We'd also detain anyone looking middle eastern at our wimsy. All sounds good, but people being what people are, inescapably, it would go downhill from there. Innocent people would be killed, we'd be monitored, in fact, I'm getting a good picture here... 1984. I don't think anyone would want to live here anymore, not even us. Not me.

You cant go wrong with Mexican food in NC! Ive always wondered why you get to a certain point between Virginia and Maryland, the mexican food changes and gets worse up north.

I cant even eat Mexican food in Central Jersey until at least i get into the Shenadoah Valley if im heading south.

The crap they serve on the east coast is nothing like what you get in central/southern Texas, not even close. Not at all. I was surprised to be honest, I thought with the hispanic populations we have on the East coast there would be some good places, but I have not found them. Everyone's "favorite" has sucked so far, big time. I do not know about CA, AZ, and NM, have not eaten Mexican there that I particularly remember, of course I have not visited them enough to really say.

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That's another topic, but you didn't need to go to a private school..

Decisions, decisions, decisions.

No they won't. If we make this place unfriendly, they won't be able to. That means, for the illegals, NO public schools, NO public housing, NO healthcare (in ANY case), NO anchor baby policy, very harsh penalties for employment or renting out to/of illegals (lose business licenses), and immediate deportation on discovery. Add an electric fence and 50,000 troops on the border with the ability to shoot to kill, and there would be no issue aside from an angry Vicente Fox.

But wouldn't a better solution be if we could somehow improve jobs in Mexico and South America. Obviously I would think people would choose to stay in their home country if they had the choice......

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Not everything need be implemented.

"NO public schools, NO public housing, NO healthcare (in ANY case), NO anchor baby policy" for the illegals would probably be enough. The shoot-to-kill would only be on the border.

Letting all these poor, hopeless people, into the country is not only expensive, and unsustainable, but makes the country look worse than it is.

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"poor, uneducated, low-skilled"... I don't understand. Many immigrants come to this country and do crap-jobs that no middle class American or even lower class American would want to do.

people always say that, but if someone needed a job that bad, they would pick strawberrys and be maids.

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"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:

I lift my lamp beside the golden door. "

--enscription on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty

To argue against immigration, or to restrict immigration to only those we deem desirable, goes against everything this country has stood for for over two centuries. When hordes of impovershed, uneducated, starving Irish and Italians were pouring into the country, they were taken in and given what they needed to survive. Today their descendants are among our best and brightest. It will be the same with the immigrants of today, if we stick to our American principles. If illegal immigration is such a huge problem, prehaps it is because we have made it much too difficult to immigrate legally.

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I'll try to refrain for going off tangent on all the immigrant discussion. Just wanted to point out again that we supposedly will hit 300 Mil tomorrow morning. I had gotten the impression from one article I read that we'd also be passing another country up to be third in population in the world. But from I've seen it looks like we've already had that distinction for quite a while now. Don't think we'll be moving on up in that category unless there some huge catrastrophic event. China and India are so far ahead of everyone else.

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I heard an interesting stat today. The number of hispanic immigrants in the last 15-30 (I don't remeber how many) years, 30 million, is more than the total number of Irish, English, German, Polish, Jewish, etc, immigrants to ever came to this land.

Before the 1960s, there used to be 140,000 immigrants per year, now millions come in each year.

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I heard an interesting stat today. The number of hispanic immigrants in the last 15-30 (I don't remeber how many) years, 30 million, is more than the total number of Irish, English, German, Polish, Jewish, etc, immigrants to ever came to this land.

Before the 1960s, there used to be 140,000 immigrants per year, now millions come in each year.

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European whites made up 69.1% of the population in 2000, they will become a plurality by 2050.

Los Angeles will look like Mexico City by 2050 and all of the other big cities of the US will look like Los Angeles of today.

Honestly, I don't think the immigration of Hispanics is a bad thing - it's just the volume at which it is happening which is concerning. If I were a Mexican, I want to come to the US as well, but they shouldn't be able to cut in line in front of the people that are respecting the law. The European immigrants respected the law, were tested for disease, came here to live (not just to find a job), and wanted to assimilate. They felt a connection to their homeland, but they didn't tell us that the Northeast belongs to England...

The current immigration framework is unsustainable. Bringing many new people who don't contribute much on a per capita basis, puts a terrific strain on governmental resources. New schools need to be built, more infrastructure needs to be put in place and this burden doesn't fall upon the immigrants, it falls to the middle class.

Here's an acceptable plan. Close the border, put the national guard on the border, deport the criminals, deport those who just come here to work, let those who want to live here - live here, and give them time to assimilate. A moratorium on immigration is what we need if only for a few years so we can examine the effects such policy has had on our country.

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What some of you have to understand on the ilegal immigration topics is that it is bad and good for our system. Like one of my friendss works at an Elementary School and she can't stop complaining to me how they (hispanics) can't speak English and are in First Grade and aren't even toilet-trained and get free preschool, free lunch and breakfast, free field trips, and school supplies and yet they manage to send their child with $5 (no joke) to get a snack and they don't even eat all of their lunch and half of it gets thrown in the trash can! But, the kicker is that the mom & dad hop into a nice new cushy 2007 GMC Yukon Denali with new shiny chrome rims/spinners and drive off. Also, while they get everything at school free and don't even pay taxes, my friend tells me they just wait outside her door all day waiting to talk to her because she yelled at one of their children for "having an accident in his/her pants" on her carpet that she bought with her own money that the school system didn't reimburse for and they would walk into the classroom demanding to have a conference with her on her teaching time! So tell me how that is good for our system? And, I broke a bone in my foot about 1 month ago and I went to the emergency room and it was packed with non-english speaking people that they had to get interpreters for and while I was finally taken after waiting 1 1/2 hours I was slapped with a $100 co-pay while the Hispanic gentlemen in front of me said," Si, no insurance and no money," and got to go walk free without putting a Benjamin or more down! :angry: But, I do agree on how the Hispanics have contributed to the American society by taking jobs like picking crops, mopping floors, and being bus-boys that noone else in this country would want to do. In fact there was a story on my local news channel on how farms around the area are reporting a shortage of temp. workers to help them gather the crops and how they might go bad if they don't pick them in time.

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What some of you have to understand on the ilegal immigration topics is that it is bad and good for our system. Like one of my friendss works at an Elementary School and she can't stop complaining to me how they (hispanics) can't speak English and are in First Grade and aren't even toilet-trained and get free preschool, free lunch and breakfast, free field trips, and school supplies and yet they manage to send their child with $5 (no joke) to get a snack and they don't even eat all of their lunch and half of it gets thrown in the trash can! But, the kicker is that the mom & dad hop into a nice new cushy 2007 GMC Yukon Denali with new shiny chrome rims/spinners and drive off. Also, while they get everything at school free and don't even pay taxes, my friend tells me they just wait outside her door all day waiting to talk to her because she yelled at one of their children for "having an accident in his/her pants" on her carpet that she bought with her own money that the school system didn't reimburse for and they would walk into the classroom demanding to have a conference with her on her teaching time! So tell me how that is good for our system?
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Aside from that, your statement itself is logically flawed. If the number of hispanics to arrive in the last 30 years (plus those that were here before) were greater than the number of Europeans to arrive from the beginning, then logically hispanics would be the majority in this country. We all know whites are still firmly in the majority.
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And, I broke a bone in my foot about 1 month ago and I went to the emergency room and it was packed with non-english speaking people that they had to get interpreters for and while I was finally taken after waiting 1 1/2 hours I was slapped with a $100 co-pay while the Hispanic gentlemen in front of me said," Si, no insurance and no money," and got to go walk free without putting a Benjamin or more down! :angry:
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Hospitals are required to accept all emergency patients in an emergency room. You'll be happy you had that health insurance though if you need follow-up treatment, because he'll be right back in the emergency room while you'll be seeing a specialist.

Yet another reason why this country needs some form of universal healthcare.

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