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Wow.. 50 years makes a difference

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The site of Metropolitan Stadium in 1955 before it was built. My grandparents had moved about 1.5 miles southwest of here in 1951.

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The same area today

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This sits on the site of the old Met Stadium:

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The Mall of America. It was built in 1992 and is currently the largest mall in the U.S. With the planned 2nd phase, the mall will nearly double in size and will be the largest mall in the world.

People visit from all over the world just to see it. As cliche as it would be to say that Minnesotans don't like going there, that would be a lie. We go there, and we love it. It's like the culmination of 50 years of mall pioneering. (After the completion of the first indoor American mall, Southdale, in Edina in the '50s.)

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The Mall of America. It was built in 1992 and is currently the largest mall in the U.S. With the planned 2nd phase, the mall will nearly double in size and will be the largest mall in the world.

People visit from all over the world just to see it. As cliche as it would be to say that Minnesotans don't like going there, that would be a lie. We go there, and we love it. It's like the culmination of 50 years of mall pioneering. (After the completion of the first indoor American mall, Southdale, in Edina in the '50s.)

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The Mall of America. It was built in 1992 and is currently the largest mall in the U.S. With the planned 2nd phase, the mall will nearly double in size and will be the largest mall in the world.

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Actually, I've looked and they've now scaled down the plans a bit for phase 2 because they will not be able to build a casino into it, so they are looking to develop 5.6 million sq. ft. in phase 2 in addition to the 4.2 million sq. ft. already there. In the end, it will be slightly smaller than the 12 million sq. ft. mall in Dubai.

Either way, it is still a pretty amazing thing to have in a city like Bloomington, MN... a place that no one really thinks about.

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Lifestyle centers are simply pre-fabricated malls with an outdoor street atmosphere on the front. It seeks to mimic traditional shopping districts and also the shopping districts of Europe with their sidewalk cafes, trendy shops, etc. They are appealing, but they have to be done right.

This, like you noted above, is not very compatible with a climate that can and often does reach -20 to -40*F in the winter and mid 90s to near 100 in the summer. Our response?

Indoor shopping malls.

We haven't been totally turned off by lifestyle centers, though. They are gaining a lot of traction, but the movement here has been more towards transit oriented, and traditional type developments where residential and commercial mix on a gridded street scene with little parking, etc.

50th and France is a good example of upscale "lifestyle center" type shopping:

http://www.50thandfrance.com/home.html

This is an example of a city using ordinances to encourage a pedestrian friendly downtown area:

http://www.hopkinsmn.com/planning/design.html

This is especially becoming popular with the planning and implementation of transit corridors like the Hiawatha Light Rail, Central Corridor Light Rail, and future possible streetcar routes/bus routes.

The area along the light rail has boomed with development.

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The Mall of America. It was built in 1992 and is currently the largest mall in the U.S. With the planned 2nd phase, the mall will nearly double in size and will be the largest mall in the world.

People visit from all over the world just to see it. As cliche as it would be to say that Minnesotans don't like going there, that would be a lie. We go there, and we love it. It's like the culmination of 50 years of mall pioneering. (After the completion of the first indoor American mall, Southdale, in Edina in the '50s.)

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I would like to see the MOA just to see what being inside a 12 million square foot building is like. The Largest Mall I've been in is Rivertown Crossings on the southwest side of my home town. It's 1.5 million sq. ft. To me that"s huge.

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The Mall of America is expanding!?!?!?!? Geez.... when is enough enough? Of course I've never been, but I've seen it on the Travel Channel. Amazing... it seems like a whole world in itself as it is. I can't imagine it any larger!

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Is it safe to assume that the "lifestyle center" craze has not gained ground in the Twin Cities? I really don't see how it could given the climate...

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Here is a picture of the Mall of America. Note how close the mall is to some of the runways at the MSP International airport. Also notice the light rail line be constructed in the lower right hand corner. It's now complete and runs from the parking ramp at the MOA to the airport, and on to downtown Minneapolis. The new addition to the mall will be located next to IKEA (big parking lot).

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Here are a couple photos of Arbor Lakes lifestyle center in Maple Grove.

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The Mall of America. It was built in 1992 and is currently the largest mall in the U.S. With the planned 2nd phase, the mall will nearly double in size and will be the largest mall in the world.

People visit from all over the world just to see it. As cliche as it would be to say that Minnesotans don't like going there, that would be a lie. We go there, and we love it. It's like the culmination of 50 years of mall pioneering. (After the completion of the first indoor American mall, Southdale, in Edina in the '50s.)

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The Ghermezian family, owners of the MOA, announced today that Bass Pro Shops has signed on as one of its several new tenants in the mall's 5.6-million-square-foot expansion. They also announced that San Francisco-based Kimpton Hotels and Restaurants will build an attached hotel and Gerstlauer will add a Euro-Fighter roller coaster to the Park at MOA. Construction on Phase II will begin in spring 2007.

The Ghermezian family has said that they want to add more upscale tenants so it will be interesting to see the new additions.

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You're wrong. Right now there are two very large lifestyle centers; one in Maple Grove - Arbor Lakes and the other in Woodbury - Woodbury Lakes. I know there are a few more planned as well.

Also, Rosedale Mall (Twin Cities' fourth-largest mall) in Roseville is adding a lifestyle center to the existing mall - "The Plaza at Rosedale Center"

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Actually, I've looked and they've now scaled down the plans a bit for phase 2 because they will not be able to build a casino into it, so they are looking to develop 5.6 million sq. ft. in phase 2 in addition to the 4.2 million sq. ft. already there. In the end, it will be slightly smaller than the 12 million sq. ft. mall in Dubai.

Either way, it is still a pretty amazing thing to have in a city like Bloomington, MN... a place that no one really thinks about.

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This is the "Mall of America" not the "Mall of The Desert Built On The Backs of Slave Labor So We Can Gloat"

The Mall of America is just that.. the Mall of America, for all Americans... anybody can go there and shop to their heart's content. This is not some overblown upscale megamall catering only to the rich. So please, come and visit.. you're always welcome...

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I remember from when I was there almost 10 years ago, that the mall was not open 24 hours, yet I heard there was/is a hotel inside the mall? One thing I alwas thought that would be interesting is if they were to add some condos into the mall as well. I'd imagine they wouldn't have difficulty selling them. Having housing in such a building would be pretty unique.. and truly would be a bit of a city inside a building.

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I remember from when I was there almost 10 years ago, that the mall was not open 24 hours, yet I heard there was/is a hotel inside the mall? One thing I alwas thought that would be interesting is if they were to add some condos into the mall as well. I'd imagine they wouldn't have difficulty selling them. Having housing in such a building would be pretty unique.. and truly would be a bit of a city inside a building.

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