3rd Ward Midrise Projects

[tiblerbrit]

How do we know there's no retail?

[nonillogical]

How do we know there's no retail?

I guess we don't know about the 4th st. side, but I would have thought if they picked one side for retail and not the other that it would be Trade.

[tozmervo]

well, fourth street does face the knights stadium and future hotel/office area.

[nonillogical]

well, fourth street does face the knights stadium and future hotel/office area.

I know, it still has a chance. But even with what is coming to the 4th street side, If I were a developer choosing where to put 1 retail space, I'd still pick Trade because of the already established, more walkable corridor with a restaurant next door and existing retail a few blocks away in either direction. Not to mention the future gold line.

[southslider]

Looks like there are ground-floor commercial windows to me. Granted, you may have to reach whatever limited retail through a shared lobby with the apartments. But how is that any different than most Uptown buildings?

Edited June 28, 2013 by southslider

[navigator319]

huge let down. sucks.  have fun living next to Celebs.

[Prodev]

With 126 units per acre and a quoted average size of approx. 900 square feet per unit, there is definitely not going to be any retail space. Those large ground floor windows are no doubt leasing and amenity space and not retail. 

[dubone]

Spectrum Properties announced "The Mint" on the parcel along Trade between the Fed Courthouse and Presto/Celebs (though apparantly not including that building).

 

Architecture is pretty boring, but I actually think seven stories in the site will be decent scale.  There will be 177 units.  Construction should start by year end.

 

I think the most disappointing is the parking deck entrance/curb cut on Trade.

 

 

 

It is a shame that Charlotte does not seem to treat Trade Street as the secondary main street like it traditionally was.   That gated garage entrance will not look black and invisible, but will give a clear look into the bowels of the building with concrete and pipes and cars and buzzing fluorescent lights like most parking decks.  I would rather a garage door over that supposedly decorative gate.   Why wouldn't 4th Street be the preferred side for that auto entrance for the developers?  Trade Street has a median which will eventually have a streetcar, so people exiting and will always need to turn right, whereas 4th Street with a painted yellow line could allow for left turns and less impact to an established pedestrian corridor.  Their residents will have a much easier time using an entrance on that side.  

 

The difference in colors makes for a slight improvement over Spectrum's very underwhelming first swipe at the neighborhood, Cityview Towers.   Yet, I'm sure this will get the same stucco treatment and look just as cheap and plastic when finished.  

[atlrvr]

1) Yes....seems insane that they couldn't have made the only ingress/egress along 4th.  Not a big enough building to warrant 2 auto entrances.

 

2) Materials will make the difference, and agree, it's not looking likely that this this won't be a mix of split block, 3-coats stucco, and EIFS all together, so I'm expecting a let down.

 

3) Overall design isn't horrible in the aesthetic sense, it's just horribly generic and devoid of context.  You could put this building in Uptown, Midtown, South End, South Park, Arboreteum, Cornelius, etc, and it would be equally contextual.  This parcel was an opportunity for something much better.  Not higher/denser, just better.

[ah59396]

Honestly, if this building were slapped outside of Uptown, I'd be fine with it.  It's the location...what a waste.  Ugh.

[dubone]

It is actually misnamed, I will be calling this project "The Graham" instead.

 

[carolinagarnet]

The facade looks very South Park to me. Buildings like 5th and Poplar have raised our collective expectations for residential design in Uptown.

[MazzoMedia]

This timelapse is about 1400 photos taken at 5 second intervals between 8am and 10am on July 2nd 2013 of the construction at the Childress Klein South Mint Apartment Highrise.

http://youtu.be/xExPgj_yHpk

[RiverwoodCLT]

Kiss another parking lot good bye,  that is a good thing that has happen.

[ah59396]

Taken yesterday. Childress Kline going vertical.

[nonillogical]

Only slightly related, but I noticed that some type of gym is going into one of or combining all the retail space in the Catalyst/ChildressKlein parking deck fronting Mint. 

[HopHead]

Only slightly related, but I noticed that some type of gym is going into one of or combining all the retail space in the Catalyst/ChildressKlein parking deck fronting Mint. 

 

This is the retail spot that has been sitting vacant since it was built, correct? Glad to see something go there besides an Asian or Steak restaurant. Still think a sports bar would've killed there given it's proximity to BofA and BB&T ballpark.

[Niner National]

This is the retail spot that has been sitting vacant since it was built, correct? Glad to see something go there besides an Asian or Steak restaurant. Still think a sports bar would've killed there given it's proximity to BofA and BB&T ballpark.

Once the Knights stadium is open maybe, but I'm not sure 10 home games per year can sustain a bar. A bar there would be kinda isolated. I don't think it'd work.

 

Wasn't Picasso's considering moving there at one point?

[ah59396]

Its a crossfit gym.

[navigator319]

Didn't some one recently say a a Mellow Mushroom was going to Catalyst?

[HopHead]

Once the Knights stadium is open maybe, but I'm not sure 10 home games per year can sustain a bar. A bar there would be kinda isolated. I don't think it'd work.

 

Wasn't Picasso's considering moving there at one point?

I think given the residential going up along with BB&T stadium a sports bar is very sustainable. I believe Picassos was set to go there at one point.

[nonillogical]

Didn't some one recently say a a Mellow Mushroom was going to Catalyst?

Yes that is still happening as far as I know. No-brainer site for one, it'll be very popular.

[DMann]

Didn't some one recently say a a Mellow Mushroom was going to Catalyst?

I think the site in question is the parking deck. I saw a Reebok sign in the window across from the Residence Inn.

[nonillogical]

I think the site in question is the parking deck. I saw a Reebok sign in the window across from the Residence Inn.

No there is a retail space in Catalyst itself at Church & MLK (at least 1, maybe 2 actually), that's where the Mellow is going.

 

The last thing I read said they were targeting a December opening date, so I'd look to see obvious work going on by October or so. Not sure why they're not trying to do it sooner to coincide with the park opening. 

Edited July 14, 2013 by nonillogical

[Matthew.Brendan]

Seems to be right on pace with the park opening