3rd Ward Midrise Projects

[Charlotte_native]

What tower will they start with?

408 Church -- the site where they are currently taking down a Duke building.

[dubone]

I've heard that the building will bite the dust on 2/24.

I sure hope the final product is of good quality. It just seems such a shame to tear down the 1920s headquarters of one of the largest corporations in the state (Even if they are a wretched company).

[UrbanCharlotte]

Novare posted more info on the Third Ward Project on their website:

OVERTURE: 27 story 462 unit tower at the corner of Church Street and Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard

CONSTRUCTION BEGINS THIS SUMMER

AND

TWELVE

Edited February 16, 2007 by UrbanCharlotte

[Bled_man]

Novare posted more info on the Third Ward Project on their website:

OVERTURE: 27 story 462 unit tower at the corner of Church Street and Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard

CONSTRUCTION BEGINS THIS SUMMER

AND

TWELVE

[Charlotte_native]

Novare posted more info on the Third Ward Project on their website:

OVERTURE: 27 story 462 unit tower at the corner of Church Street and Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard

CONSTRUCTION BEGINS THIS SUMMER

AND

TWELVE

Edited February 16, 2007 by Charlotte_native

[dubone]

The Packard building is owned by Novare at Church and 3rd, but that is a future project. The TWELVE Charlotte is going on the large block where Duke Power building was, between 1st, 2nd (MLK), Mint and Church. So it makes sense that this is going at the SE corner of Mint and 2nd/MLK and the other building going to the SW corner of Church and 2nd/MLK. Those locations would be consistent with the announcements to build the first few towers on the large block between 1st and 2nd, then build the office tower and another tower on that block, and then lastly building over the Packard site.

[atlrvr]

I think the two new buildings (Ovature and 12) would be separated by a newly revived Poplar Street connection MLK (2nd) to 1st.

I'm really looking forward to the design of these....I almost wish that Twelve is shorter than Ovature, to see a graceful step up in the skyline...but I know skyline aesthetics have little interest to developers. I also hope the buildings have some setbacks from MLK at the 10th floor of so, to make sure plenty of light gets to the park.

[jednc]

I wonder if "winter 2007" means before March 21st or if it means after Dec. 22th?

[A2]

I wonder if "winter 2007" means before March 21st or if it means after Dec. 22th?

Later this year. They want be finished with clean up and demo until sometime in March or April.

A2

[jednc]

Good call. I'm sure you're right.

[West Side = Best Side]

I looked all over for this information on Novare's website and couldn't find it either... if it was posted and removed, what does that say about the project?

[Charlotte_native]

I looked all over for this information on Novare's website and couldn't find it either... if it was posted and removed, what does that say about the project?

Probably just that they are changing something. Of all the developers in town Novare so far has always done everything when they say they will once announced. This isn't officially announced with dates yet, but they have a couple of these buildings out for bid already and are doing site work.

[jfuptown]

Tomorrow's a big day, the old Duke Power building is scheduled to be imploded @ 7:30 am. I'll still be sleeping, but hope someone captures some good photos.

I looked all over for this information on Novare's website and couldn't find it either... if it was posted and removed, what does that say about the project?

Not sure if this is what your looking for but there is info on the Novare site under news.

Novare Group Intensifies Focus on Third Ward

[redjeep77]

Tomorrow's a big day, the old Duke Power building is scheduled to be imploded @ 7:30 am. I'll still be sleeping, but hope someone captures some good photos.

Not sure if this is what your looking for but there is info on the Novare site under news.

Novare Group Intensifies Focus on Third Ward

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/storie...ng.ad7c744.html

Click on the link for a video of the implosion.

[cltheel.sdl]

Gone just like that.

[CSP]

Just a step closer.

[uptownJim]

But if the cycle draws down or stops after a few years....

Interesting .... I heard the VERY same thing about Novare! This from a senior realtor/broker in Atlanta, who has been working there 30+ years .... said he and his other colleagues felt that Novare cared not one bit about glutting the market, and that (since they have their own management co. arm of their corporation) could simply run the places any way that they chose ... don't know what that means, but one can interpret it many diff't ways!

[Mobuchu]

It's crazy how fast things happen here in Charlotte. With everything going on, this side of uptown is changing weekly. And now there's talk of Trump building towers here too!

Anyway, I'll bet most children born today would have no idea this was Charlotte in 20 years. Is this one of the gems that should have been kept? IMO, I'm fine with it if parts of the facade are used. This building didn't have much going for it except for a couple detailed elements around the front entrance. Plus the building was way too close to the curb. I think there should be a 25ft min. on all sidewalks in uptown around future developements. Even if they put retail on that first floor, there was no sidewalk to support pedestrian traffic - something this side of uptown will soon see alot more of.

What do you guys think? Here's a before/after from a similar vantage point...

11-05-06

2-24-07

[turbocraig]

Did anyone ever determine if they salvaged the entryway facade?

[Mobuchu]

It was definitely removed before the implode, who knows what they are going to do with it though.

[rockhilljames]

This is one I kind of mourn actually. I think it would have made a great retail pavilion if done right.

[Justadude]

I agree about the sidewalk minimums. There are a lot of places in uptown where it still feels dangerous to walk, because you're right up on top of traffic.

[dubone]

It was definitely removed before the implode, who knows what they are going to do with it though.

Are you sure about that? Late last week I walked by and thought it was all wrecked up. I assumed they had some machinery fit through the door, and cracked up the edges. I might be recollecting it slightly wrong, but at the time, I came to terms that nothing architectural was going to be salvaged for reuse, except possibly the light fixtures, which were gone.

[Mobuchu]

Oh, maybe. I just remember the sections around the door were gone, but if thats only because they busted them up then you are probably right.

[Charlotte_native]

Interesting .... I heard the VERY same thing about Novare! This from a senior realtor/broker in Atlanta, who has been working there 30+ years .... said he and his other colleagues felt that Novare cared not one bit about glutting the market, and that (since they have their own management co. arm of their corporation) could simply run the places any way that they chose ... don't know what that means, but one can interpret it many diff't ways!

One of their reps told me the same but with more detail: one of the reasons they can begin a building before any sales, and one of the reasons their unit mix has mostly smaller units, is they can switch with no real changes to the buildings they build if the market slows or drops. They can hold and rent the places as apartments. Very high end buildings and buildings with a larger percentage of big units would have a more difficult time doing this should the same happen.

Edited February 26, 2007 by Charlotte_native