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PITG Wins the casino vote. I won't even post the story, because the Post Gazette & Trib sites are close to crashing as it is.

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It makes sense. Best suited for traffic. Uptown is a horrible location for a casino. Station Square can't handle the traffic. The N Shore site can be close but self contained, adding to cross (central) town activity - say station square to casino... downtown to.. north shore to... it makes sense.

Pens are NOT moving.

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I had a feeling this one was going to be the winner. I supported the Isle of Capri proposal solely because of the Penguins arena, but other than that factor, I much prefer giving PITG Gaming the opportunity. Under no circumstance did I want Station Square proposal to win so I'm glad it didn't.

Once the casino is built and the proposed entertainment district is built, the North Shore Connector (on the T) is going to look better and better.

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The Steelers ownership is making noise about appealing the location decision. This isn't over, not by a longshot.

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I wish it was over, I can't take any more of the uncertainty. I think PITG is a decent choice. Arena issue aside, I think it is the best choice.

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Forest City isn't going to appeal, they are on to their next project (hopefully it will more successful then their recent east coast projects, ie half empty office and entertainment headquarters in Cleveland)

IoC said they aren't going to appeal until the formal decision (which states the reasons they lost) are available to the public. So that means everything is in limbo for at least two weeks, add in the appeal time, and you're looking at 45-ish days.

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I notice that Rooney said it goes against the "family" entertainment venues they had planned for the North Shore. I was wondering how they considered an area which plans numerous bars and overpriced restaurants is to be percieved as "family" entertianment. Other than the planned Ampitheater I see no conflict there. It seems a match made in "Heaven?" and the area will compliment each other as a cohesive entertainment area, or they will successfully feed on each other, depending on how you look at it. I do think it was the proper decision.

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I hope Rooney helps the future of the North Side by working to block the casino. As it stands there is so much money being promised to the North Side leadership that we are incapable of protecting ourselves from the casino.

There is plenty of support for Rooney if he steps up and shields us from the casino.

Brad

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Forest City isn't going to appeal, they are on to their next project (hopefully it will more successful then their recent east coast projects, ie half empty office and entertainment headquarters in Cleveland)

IoC said they aren't going to appeal until the formal decision (which states the reasons they lost) are available to the public. So that means everything is in limbo for at least two weeks, add in the appeal time, and you're looking at 45-ish days.

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I'd like to know where Forest City;s "half empty office and entertainment headquarters in Cleveland" is Tower city is still one of the best urban malls. The office space is nowhere near half empty. The place is rare in this part of the country as it connects a rail hub with a mall, hotels, offices and sports stadia. Could the place be better? YES. I wish some of you Pittsburghers would do a little research before you open your mouths. Anyway Cleveland will probably get the last laugh when a new development that will feature upscale retailers unknown to Ohio, Indiana or west PA opens.

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I'm sure no one meant to offend. I think that was meant to be a dig at Forest City, not at Cleveland.

Pittsburgh and Cleveland are both nice cities, much nicer than most people give them credit for. Rather than compete with each other we should support each other.

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Yes we should, but more than a few times I've read the P'burgh forum, forumers have been backhandedly taking shots at Cleveland. If it was about the Browns I'd be OK with that :D , but some of the other stuff is offensive to Clevelanders.

Also you're right about Forest City being a not so nice developer/business.

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Ya, this Clevaland Pittsurgh thing is way to "abandoned car in the front yard" for me. I am new to Pittsburgh and for the life of me I don't get why two cites with similarities would not work together more instead of against each other. Ill tell you what the rest of the US would thinks - A couple of derelict cites scrapping to not be the most derelict city.

This must be a marketing football thing that everyone bought into. It is down right embarrassing.

So what does the casino and the fight between Cleveland and Pittsburgh have in common. Everything and it starts with the letter "Y"

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my goodness... nobody in this thread was bashing CLEVELAND... tooluther was bashing Forest City and their Tower City development... a downtown shopping mall whose retail mix has declined in recent years... next topic, please!

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nobody in this thread was bashing CLEVELAND... tooluther was bashing Forest City and their Tower City development... a downtown shopping mall whose retail mix has declined in recent years... next topic, please!

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