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This plan would be absolutely awesome. That is the gaping unfinished part of Downtown that makes Hartford look really bad. If this is true I am truly overjoyed. Dr. Painter is a good guy whom knows my mom pretty well. He really cares about Hartford and if he can help make this happen this city will truly owe him a huge debt of gratitude.

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Why wouldn't UConn build its facilities near the existing Hartford Hospital complex? That would give the med students access to many more patients, and it would give Hartford Hospital doctors access to the new technologies that would be developed and tested at UConn.

No, that makes too much sense, build it on the other side of town.

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Why wouldn't UConn build its facilities near the existing Hartford Hospital complex? That would give the med students access to many more patients, and it would give Hartford Hospital doctors access to the new technologies that would be developed and tested at UConn.

No, that makes too much sense, build it on the other side of town.

A mile through the central segment of the city's primary corridor sounds pretty accessible to me.

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A mile through the central segment of the city's primary corridor sounds pretty accessible to me.

I see both sides on that one.

the average person sees half a mile as walkable according to transportation studies (specifically the NH-H-S Commuter rail)

I still think downtown in general is MUCH better than in Farmington, and just N of Downtown is as good a place as any.

here is more stuff for the brain to chew on though.

not knowing at all the requirements of medical classrooms, why not the colt building?

its a campus like setting and its in need of tenants, and there is nearby room to expand.

if not actually Hartford Hospital, how about the Plaza mayor land?

or Capewells parking lot area, or the flat parking lot behind the federal building(sheldon/prospect) or on the corner of the park at Sheldon and prospect street overlooking the circle?

all those spots are in the magic half mile

really, I would take any of these. ANY. I think the N side of 84 is a fine choice and might lead to other development,

but I am currently in the mindset of building density and creating critical mass.

in the S downtown area there are some successes, and if they could be built onto AT ALL, this city could gain some real traction.

Charter Oak place as well as Congress street are VERY nice residential urban streets, like something out of Boston. We need to allow other streets to become like them by patching holes and allowing for the vibrancy to spread.

a large project like a university building could certainly do that, but it can not be on its own out in the barren seas of the N side of I 84.

think about being a Uconn med student in that environment. would you want to interact, or would you get in your car and avoid?

put the building on Pulaski circle and the students would walk and study in the park, and they would wander both into the downtown core as well as into the S-mainstreet area.

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A mile through the central segment of the city's primary corridor sounds pretty accessible to me.

Not for two people who are suppose to be partnering.

the partnering thing is off.

the plan now is kind of a regional partnering, so by being part of HH it would be snubing other partners like St Francais, and central ct, and the NB hospital etc.

a neutral location might make the most sense.

if they were still merging, than absolutely, I say build it on a partking lot in over there, but now we are really just talking about the possibility of something that is likely not going to happen because the money is approved for a new tower at the current med center location.

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We're on the verge of a world class medical complex, the kind of complex that spins off businesses and keeps growing.

Filling up a surface parking lot a mile away should not drive any decision making on how best the complex works.

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http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-uconn-hospital-expansion-20100605,0,6832024.story

looks like there is local funding in place now.

Rell signed this bill

it still needs 100 million from the feds

"For all that to happen, one key piece must still fall into place: securing $100 million in federal or other money to fund the plan. UConn officials are hoping to get it from a $100 million hospital grant U.S. Sen. Christopher Dodd had inserted into the health reform law, although the state must apply for the funds and may have to compete with other states that are also eligible for the money."

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So now there are two controversial proposals in the Hartford area backed by Malloy, The busway and the UCONN Medical Center expansion.

http://www.courant.com/health/connecticut/hc-uconn-health-0517-20110517,0,6980090.story

Wouldn't it make sense to tie these projects together in some way - like bring the transit corridor (notice that I'm not specifying busway) to the hospital or bring the hospital to the transit corridor?

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So now there are two controversial proposals in the Hartford area backed by Malloy, The busway and the UCONN Medical Center expansion.

http://www.courant.c...0,6980090.story

Wouldn't it make sense to tie these projects together in some way - like bring the transit corridor (notice that I'm not specifying busway) to the hospital or bring the hospital to the transit corridor?

The UConn Medical School should be brought to the medical complex in Hartford.

This smells like it's is a political plum for someone. Not doubt, the unions will reap a windfall.

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So now there are two controversial proposals in the Hartford area backed by Malloy, The busway and the UCONN Medical Center expansion.

http://www.courant.com/health/connecticut/hc-uconn-health-0517-20110517,0,6980090.story

Wouldn't it make sense to tie these projects together in some way - like bring the transit corridor (notice that I'm not specifying busway) to the hospital or bring the hospital to the transit corridor?

The Busway actually will have decent connections to the UConn Health Center from what I've seen. It's not on the direct busway but buses will exit the busway to get to the Health Center area and then get back on.

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What I am encouraged by is the fact that Malloy is already getting behind aggressive development projects even in a weak ecomomy. I'm happy that he got his deal done with the unions and hopefully we will see a better fiscal outlook in the near future. I am excited to see what projects will be initiated under his watch since what we have so far are things that he is carrying over from Rell.

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The UConn Medical School should be brought to the medical complex in Hartford.

I agree

The Busway actually will have decent connections to the UConn Health Center from what I've seen. It's not on the direct busway but busses will exit the busway to get to the Health Center area and then get back on.

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But the 2 projects don't have the synergy that I had in mind.

I think some people look at transit (like a busway) simply as a means of moving people from one place to another.

I like to think of transit as the the framework for a densified corridor. In turn, the development along this linear extension (of the central business district) fortifies the transit line.

I would think if the state was interested in the success of the busway, there would an effort in locating new development downtown or right on top of this transit corridor.

What I am encouraged by is the fact that Malloy is already getting behind aggressive development projects even in a weak ecomomy. I'm happy that he got his deal done with the unions and hopefully we will see a better fiscal outlook in the near future. I am excited to see what projects will be initiated under his watch since what we have so far are things that he is carrying over from Rell.

There really is something to be said about being bold in weak economic times.

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I am definitely liking what we are seeing regarding building the UConn Health Center into something world class.

I wish it could be in Hartford but do understand why it is not. It was built in Farmington and it's much easier and less costly to simply add on to what already exists than start from scratch.

Hartford Courant

Malloy made the case for his $864 million plan during a presentation Tuesday morning at the health center's Farmington campus, providing more details about the project he calls "Bioscience Connecticut." Malloy says the plan will create thousands of jobs, position the state as a leader in research, attract top scientists to Connecticut and strengthen the medical and dental schools.

"Let me be very clear," Malloy said. "If we fail to make this investment at this time, if we fail to commit, then we are going to lose ground. … It's about the future of Connecticut and what we aspire to be."

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I have to say that I think that Curry is spot on in this op ed piece.

There is a lot at stake but I am much more optimistic now than in the past.

Hartford Courant

We should pray the General Assembly says yes. The Malloy plan represents the wisest investment of public funds for economic development in the modern history of our state. That's a sweeping claim and I'll elaborate in a moment — but first, a personal qualification.

For years I have fought attempts to dump tax dollars into bloated projects that fly the flag of economic development. Best were the ones that never got off the ground; the Kraft stadium, Bridgeport casino and New Haven mall cost millions, but less than if they'd actually been built.

New London tore itself apart over development, only to be left at the altar by the intended beneficiary, the Pfizer Corp. Hartford thought it hit the jackpot 16 years ago when the state bestowed $1 billion on Adriaen's Landing. If it makes it to a 20th anniversary without even a dress shop or diner on Front Street, someone should apologize.

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Bringing it back to the topic at hand.

The expansion plan just got through the state senate. I think it's a good investment in CT's future so I am happy about that. Raising the profile of UConn academically as a medical and research institution is a very important part of making CT a more competive state.

Hartford Courant

The state Senate approved a controversial bill Wednesday night for an $864 million proposal that would enlarge both the medical and dental schools at the University of Connecticut Health Center while creating 3,000 new construction jobs on the Farmington campus.

The plan would add 100 students to the medical school, 48 students to the dental school, and about 50 medical researchers in a comprehensive plan that would include new buildings and parking garages.

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"in a thread about a hospital that you know as well as anyone will be a positive for the region. you may disagree with the politics behind it, but this is a development issue not a political one... post that crap on the courant forums please."

I wish this were true. But in government projects, development and politics are inseparable. I personally believe that almost any investment in UConn pays backs the investment for the state. I support a strong medical school.

But we are about to watch the same mistake be made again. Farmington is the wrong place for the medical project. It stinks of a political plum being given out for all the wrong reasons. And construction jobs are the wrong reason to build it. That is just a welfare for unions, so the Democrats can launder money that will come back to them in campaign donations.

The medical school belongs in the medical cluster in Hartford. It makes sense for Hartford to have to have a powerful center that rivals Mass General in Boston. A center that combines a major hospital, a major university medical school and a strong research facility in one place.

But Malloy and short term political gain and payback will prevent it. Life in Connecticut.

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But we are about to watch the same mistake be made again. Farmington is the wrong place for the medical project. It stinks of a political plum being given out for all the wrong reasons. And construction jobs are the wrong reason to build it. That is just a welfare for unions, so the Democrats can launder money that will come back to them in campaign donations.

The medical school belongs in the medical cluster in Hartford. It makes sense for Hartford to have to have a powerful center that rivals Mass General in Boston. A center that combines a major hospital, a major university medical school and a strong research facility in one place.

But Malloy and short term political gain and payback will prevent it. Life in Connecticut.

Building it in Farmington is compounding the mistake of putting it there in the first place. I believe if we are funding this project, it should also be an opportunity to influence development patterns in the right places(the thing that the state has put money in before). I just don't think we are getting the full potential out of this.

And why is time suddenly "of the essence"? Wasn't this project not even on the radar a few weeks ago?

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Im a huge fan of plan "C"

Farmington only needs medical servioce, they do not need the research aspects etc... the hospital as it is would be great for localized patient care and all the classrooms etc should be in Hartford. I honestly feel as though any of the huge lots by the train station should be the location of thre classrooms.

There is a huge lot on Asylum and Broad that is city owned, there is a huge lot connected to the train that is DOT owned

better yet is the Allyn Street parking lots. Another option is to buy and renovate a downtown office building...

Or build something on the Park/Main Street corner...

I hope this doesn't get buried in all the off topic posts (that will hopefully be moved to a more appropriate place).

What does everyone think about "option C"?

http://www.courant.c...0,7180328.story

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I hope this doesn't get buried in all the off topic posts (that will hopefully be moved to a more appropriate place).

What does everyone think about "option C"?

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-ed-health-center-20110605,0,7180328.story

I am a huge fan of plan C as well but understand why it may be more expedient to add on to the existing complex than start over somewhere else. It would be great for a major project like this to be built in Hartford but I am still hopeful that we will see a new major development project proposed for Hartford in the near term.

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I am a huge fan of plan C as well but understand why it may be more expedient to add on to the existing complex than start over somewhere else. It would be great for a major project like this to be built in Hartford but I am still hopeful that we will see a new major development project proposed for Hartford in the near term.

Well it seems as though HH intends its own expansions regardless of UConn or St Francais or whatever, so hopefully we will see that 12 story office building and the parking lot some day soon. and who knows what else....

in fact in the most recent P&Z meeting there was a zoning change request from HH regarding some land between Park street and the main hospital campus from residential to commercial or something.

I think they need more attached housing for staff on overnight shifts etc.. and more office space and the planned cancer research center, and the childrens hospital adding 20 beds to neo natal etc etc etc....

and hopefully more mergers from HH growing into a for profit comepany some day

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This is potentially excellent news.

Wish it was in Hartford but this would not be happening so soon if they were moving the whole thing to the city most likely so this is exactly why they choose just to keep building up the existing facilities. It's much more economically feasible to keep it where it is. I'm anxious to see if this comes to fruition or not.

Hartford Courant

STORRS — A top official at the University of Connecticut Health Center said Wednesday that, "if things go well," the governor will soon announce that a "major scientific group" with several hundred scientists will move to Farmington.

Philip E. Austin, former UConn president and now interim vice president for health affairs at the center, said Gov. Dannel P. Malloy could make the announcement sometime next week.

Austin made his remarks at a committee meeting of the UConn Board of Trustees on the university's Storrs campus.

The health center is located in Farmington.

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OK, so this is freaking huge.

A non profit research institute is building a 1.1 Billion dollar lab opening at the UConn Health Center! That CT Bioscience investment may have been one of the wisest investments this state has made in a long time. Simply incredible news!

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Hartford Courant

A Bar Harbor, Maine-based genetics research institute plans to build a $1.1 billion laboratory at the UConn Health Center campus in Farmington, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy is expected to announce Friday morning.

A source close to the administration said The Jackson Laboratory, one of the oldest mammalian genetic research labs in the world, will build a lab that will create 661 research-related jobs, as well as 842 construction jobs, and an estimated 6,200 spin-off and indirect jobs.

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