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Elizabeth Projects (7th St, Elizabeth Ave, etc)

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2 hours ago, NYtoCLT said:

I think this could be a great idea.  Reach out to the Elizabeth Community Association.  And/or reach out to the people at Talking Walls.  They put on the mural exhibit where they invite different street artists to put up murals around the city.  It could be interesting if different artists all did different takes on different Elizabeths.

In LA people line up to take a pic in front of a wall with wings, why not snap a pic with a random Elizabeth.

Not Elizabeth-specific, but I think something like the Wroclaw, Poland (one of our sister cities) dwarfs would be cool here, only with mini Queen Charlotte statues, of course.  Many of these are paid for by businesses in order to generate more foot traffic. Win-win.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrocław's_dwarfs

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27 minutes ago, JacksonH said:

This mixed-use Faison project (condos and street-level retail), proposed for the corner of N. Caswell and 7th St. in Elizabeth,  was one that I was most looking forward to.  It reminds me of some of the grand old structures in some of the vibrant Victorian-era neighborhoods in DC.    I read on one of these threads that it had been put on hold or canceled due to objections from the neighborhood association with worries about traffic.  I don't get that.  First of all, a couple blocks from here will be a new Gold Line station.  I would assume many of the new residents that would be living here would be choosing the neighborhood because they work in Uptown, and possible also due to the proximity of the Gold Line station.  So many of those new residents would be using transit to get to work, not putting extra cars on the road.  Also, some of the existing Elizabeth residents will also be using the Gold Line.  Furthermore, the additional retail would be one more reason for Elizabeth residents NOT to get into their cars as there would be more walkable retail available to them.  And finally, this area has so many access points to Uptown, and also onto Independence Blvd./Hwy 74.  So it's not like there would be traffic jams.  And for once, this is a really beautiful, classy design that, architecturally, would fit so well into this neighborhood and would truly enhance it and likely raise property values.  Canceling this particular project seems incredibly short-sighted to me.

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It wasn’t directly cancelled due to neighborhood objections. It took a while to come to an agreement with the neighborhood over things like where the parking would dump out onto Caswell, how many buildings it would be/look like, number of units, etc. Faison indicated it was ready to go and then said that the builder they had lined up was no longer doing multi-family and they would have to start all over. From what I understand this project is running through their foundation and not the regular business so that added to a lot of delays as well.  Many in the neighborhood were thrilled at the aspect of new restaurant options. 

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45 minutes ago, sakami said:

It wasn’t directly cancelled due to neighborhood objections. It took a while to come to an agreement with the neighborhood over things like where the parking would dump out onto Caswell, how many buildings it would be/look like, number of units, etc. Faison indicated it was ready to go and then said that the builder they had lined up was no longer doing multi-family and they would have to start all over. From what I understand this project is running through their foundation and not the regular business so that added to a lot of delays as well.  Many in the neighborhood were thrilled at the aspect of new restaurant options. 

Thank you.  I feel much better after reading your comment.

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The rumor that I've heard in the neighborhood is that Crescent Communities is interested in taking over the project at 7th St & Caswell Rd. I think a great majority in the neighborhood is ready to see something built there

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2 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Hmmm this is going to be a battle royale with the Elizabeth neighborhood association I am sure.  Remember they fought the NAI tower on Providence and 3rd along with Cherry HOA.   Someone get out the popcorn.  

oh yea man, I've been gearing up to watch this battle! They will regret killing Faison

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Unknown UPer awaiting the rezoning hearing on this new project in Elizabeth.  I think that is a microbrew. 

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24 minutes ago, norm21499 said:

I can't read the article.....can someone provide a little more insight?

this is the key part and the Faison apartment plan is dead.  No residential just office and retail not sure if the neighborhood will like this better or not but they fought and fought Faison. 

""Charlotte-based Crescent Communities this month filed a rezoning request for a 1.7-acre site at the corner of East Seventh Street and North Caswell Road to build up to 105,000 square feet of office and retail space. Faison, the current landowner, went through two rezonings, multiple public hearings and several revisions before gaining rezoning approval in summer 2016 for a plan that would bring apartments and some ground-floor commercial space to the site. ""

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4 hours ago, KJHburg said:

this is the key part and the Faison apartment plan is dead.  No residential just office and retail not sure if the neighborhood will like this better or not but they fought and fought Faison. 

""Charlotte-based Crescent Communities this month filed a rezoning request for a 1.7-acre site at the corner of East Seventh Street and North Caswell Road to build up to 105,000 square feet of office and retail space. Faison, the current landowner, went through two rezonings, multiple public hearings and several revisions before gaining rezoning approval in summer 2016 for a plan that would bring apartments and some ground-floor commercial space to the site. ""

My biggest concerns as a neighbor relate to the ingress and egress of cars into the lot and what the real opportunity for retail is. Are we talking restaurant or gym? The height is not as big a deal for me. But I’m sure 65’ will send neighbors through the roof. 

As relates to this proposed rezoning will Creacent have to work with the ECA or because it’s a new zoning not have to deal with community input? I can’t remember how the zoning changes shook out.  

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, sakami said:

My biggest concerns as a neighbor relate to the ingress and egress of cars into the lot and what the real opportunity for retail is. Are we talking restaurant or gym? The height is not as big a deal for me. But I’m sure 65’ will send neighbors through the roof. 

As relates to this proposed rezoning will Creacent have to work with the ECA or because it’s a new zoning not have to deal with community input? I can’t remember how the zoning changes shook out.  

I would assume the ingress and egress of cars would be via driveway.  I fail to see how that is concerning at all.  And real opportunity for retail?  It's new construction, that means national chains and there is a reason there really isn't a huge presence of them there already, adding some token amount of office space isn't going to attract any new retailers.  I used to work at a restaurant and we spent years studying a new territory before we expanded into it and we were still 5-10 years ahead of our competitors.  So believe me when I tell you that retail follows heads in beds.  Want quality restaurants instead of seedy college frat bars or bars in general?  Then you have to increase the population density of the area.

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Despite the creation of an urban, pedestrian-oriented area plan, former Councilwoman Kinsey nixed creating a PED overlay for E 7th St similar to Central Ave. To this day, the latter has seen abundant urban infill and adaptive reuse by right, while the former slowly transforms via conditional rezoning plans painfully negotiated case by case.

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7 hours ago, DEnd said:

I would assume the ingress and egress of cars would be via driveway.  I fail to see how that is concerning at all.  And real opportunity for retail?  It's new construction, that means national chains and there is a reason there really isn't a huge presence of them there already, adding some token amount of office space isn't going to attract any new retailers.  I used to work at a restaurant and we spent years studying a new territory before we expanded into it and we were still 5-10 years ahead of our competitors.  So believe me when I tell you that retail follows heads in beds.  Want quality restaurants instead of seedy college frat bars or bars in general?  Then you have to increase the population density of the area.

Have you been through that intersection as of late? If a lot of new cars are trying to leave the parking from the lot on  Caswell and turn left on Caswell heading toward 7th St it will be a sh*tshow of accidents on a regular basis. There is already constant confusion with the reversible lanes in the morning and afternoon SO my concern is how they plan to get cars out of there safely. 7th St is controlled by the state and not the city and they have indicated they don’t want to do anything that would ever slow down traffic on that street so a new traffic light somewhere is out of the question. 

I’m confused about your comment about beds in heads. I don’t remember complaining about having residential there before, and I’m not bothered by office at all. If you read the article you saw they are filing for retail of up to 23,000 sq ft so there is an opportunity for something there. But I don’t trust Crescent. A seedy bar would be preferred to a Gold’s Gym. 

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With crescent at the helm I expect a sub-par-to-par effort at good urban design. Crescent PR team will exclaim "Urbanist innovation!" ECA will put up a big fight but ultimately will approve an eventual compromise that will be nowhere as good as the Faison project

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I do think most of the offices will doctors office and very small professional offices no big office users here.  Retail will probably trend towards national chains but there are already some in the area anyway.  Or a high end restaurant or bar.  No seedy bars can afford new space like this.  any main entrance to the parking area would be on Caswell  I would think to give access to the traffic  light but not sure.  

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