Ally Charlotte Center (f/k/a Tryon Place) - 26 floors - 427'

[CLTProductions]

It's a box with texture. Ground floor is great. But prepare for radically different than you've seen before 

[Guest]

It was a joke, it is not going to be 700' having seen the most recent renderings.

450 max for the office


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[Dale]

Sounds squat.

[NCMike1990]

12 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

450 max for the office


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That would make it the same height as 3 Wells.

[SydneyCarton]

1 hour ago, Jayvee said:

It's a box with texture. Ground floor is great. But prepare for radically different than you've seen before 

Thanks, Jayee.  It sounds really lame.  Que sera!

[HopHead]

450' here is just fine IMO. Would be nice if it were taller? Sure, but not everything has to be 600-700'. Definitely didn't want it to overshadow the Duke Energy Center either. Bring on more density. Just hope the street level presence is good like Jayvee mentioned. 

[SydneyCarton]

I don't take issue with the height.  I take issue with the fact that it's a box.  It should have had setbacks and a crown.

[15895]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I don't take issue with the height.  I take issue with the fact that it's a box.  It should have had setbacks and a crown.

It's near a building that will have a crown, a tall building with a handle, a tall building with a rounded juke box like top. 

[Guest]

Sounds squat.

26 floors (not counting 13) with a floor on top that doesn't appear to serve a function. About the height of 3 wells sounds about right.

 

"70s Park Avenue Modernist"

 

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[kermit]

33 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

"70s Park Avenue Modernist"

did I read that correctly or am I having a stroke?

FWIW this is what pops up when google imaging that phrase:

 

Check out that ground floor! (I am in no way implying that this is what Tryon Place will look like nor do I have any useful information. I just irrationally hate the aesthetic of the 1970s)

Edited August 19, 2017 by kermit

[SydneyCarton]

Basically, this building will suck.

[urbanlover568]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Basically, this building will suck.

My contact was being facetious and now know why. 

[Guest]

Basically, this building will suck.

If it hadn't started out so great to begin with, y'all would love what it is now.


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[Dale]

I'll probably like it better than SouthPark going up across the street.

 

[CLTProductions]

53 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

If it hadn't started out so great to begin with, y'all would love what it is now.


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Truth

[Synopsis101]

Better than the second rendering?

[Dale]

4 minutes ago, Synopsis101 said:

Better than the second rendering?

The second rendering looked 70's modernist to me. I suspect we'll end up with something like that. At least it's likely to be a little taller than the 21 story iteration I was afraid we'd end up with.

But as this cycle is surely winding out, I'm guessing, it is evident we're going to wind up with nice enough, but little in the way of groundbreaking design.

 

 

[CLTProductions]

32 minutes ago, Dale said:

nice enough, but little in the way of groundbreaking design.

#nailedit

Edited August 19, 2017 by Jayvee

[gman430]

Edit: Nevermind. Wrong thread.

Edited August 19, 2017 by gman430

[SydneyCarton]

Some 1970s International-style buildings have so many setbacks that they look quite good.  

By contrast, I gather that Tryon Place is just a lame 450' box.

 

 

Tectonic

Edited August 19, 2017 by SydneyCarton

[Guest]

Some 1970s International-style buildings have so many setbacks that they look quite good.   By contrast, I gather that Tryon Place is just a lame 450' box.

 

 

Tectonic

 

Not lame, there is an articulating grid on most of the facade that's quite nice. And the 450 max comment, meant that's as tall as I think it'll get, the rendering appears to be around 425.

 

 

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[SydneyCarton]

Isn't this what they showed in the obscured rendering for the second design?

 

 

Edited August 19, 2017 by SydneyCarton

[KJHburg]

I have said this before when buildings get built they have to appeal to their tenants and whatever this redesign is it sounds like they have an anchor tenant now. Otherwise we can wait 3-5 more years until a new start on this property. I just want something started and if the ground level looks great that is very important. Some of our signature buildings were built to make big statements like Duke Energy which was going to be the world headquarters of Wachovia until 2008 or Bank of America Corporate Center. We all would like the tallest the greatest but these buildings have to be built for economic reality in order to be leased out at a reasonable rate. 300 South Tryon is a great addition to our skyline and is only about as tall as this building might be but this building will be much more visible on the skyline due to location.   I just want something built decent here with great ground level and leased up so the next wave of towers can get started. 

[gman430]

Your before shot...

Edited August 20, 2017 by gman430

[Higgs Boson]

9 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Basically, this building will suck.

But... what if they include massive sculptures and fountains?