Ally Charlotte Center (f/k/a Tryon Place) - 26 floors - 427'

[SMSRedux]

4 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Really the problem is, Crescent has never submitted a full elevation. Just street front. 

Plans submitted show 378'. While they don't show complete elevations they often include these details in the zoning and overall project text on the plans. This aligns much more accurately with the appearance of the building vs its peers.

[SydneyCarton]

On 1/11/2020 at 8:12 PM, KJHburg said:

Walk by photos today. 

 

Regardless of what people think about the crown, that’s one fine facade.

Edited January 25, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[UrbanCharlotte]

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Regardless of what people think about the crown, that’s one fine facade.

I would personally give the facade a 2.5/10. Missed opportunity 

[DM1LLS]

7 hours ago, rancenc said:

I don't see a description accompanying the photo, but I assume this is the new JW Marriott rising from the ground?

 

Correct 

[Guest]

Plans submitted show 378'. While they don't show complete elevations they often include these details in the zoning and overall project text on the plans. This aligns much more accurately with the appearance of the building vs its peers.

Yea but often they include to the parapet, not to mechanical screening or elevator core caps.


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[KJHburg]

This one photo shows more downtown office space construction than Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa, St Pete Florida put together!  (and that is just with Ally and Legacy 2) 

from the OxBlue cam this morning

 

[J-Rob]

Serious question about crown, are the vertical bars behind the screening structural support for screening, or is that part of lighting scheme?  This whole time I thought they were putting up strips of screening. I didn’t realize there are bars behind the screening, so now I am confused what the bars are for.

 

[JorgiPorgi]

From the west, the “crown” is almost complete.  Still not sure how the final design was approved with that box on top being taller than the actual crown.  The box is highly visible coming into uptown.  It’s almost like Crescent said “it’s alright, from down below you won’t be able to see it”.  Not a good look for that company. 
 

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2020 by JorgiPorgi

[Guest]

From the west, the “crown” is almost complete.  Still not sure how the final design was approved with that box on top being taller than the actual crown.  The box is highly visible coming into uptown.  It’s almost like Crescent said “it’s alright, from down below you won’t be able to see it”.  Not a good look for that company. 

 

 

 

 

Just wanted to add we made the exact same complaint about Museum Tower.

 

 

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[Blue_Devil]

1 hour ago, JorgiPorgi said:

From the west, the “crown” is almost complete.  Still not sure how the final design was approved with that box on top being taller than the actual crown.  The box is highly visible coming into uptown.  It’s almost like Crescent said “it’s alright, from down below you won’t be able to see it”.  Not a good look for that company. 
 

 

 

 

 

A crown fit for a king with no clothes.... 

[KJHburg]

I refuse to call this Ally top a crown there is but one crown in this town and it resides at 100 N Tryon.  Call it a topper, a wind screen, a top hat, a sweat band but please don't call it a crown. 

[SydneyCarton]

I like this tower regardless of the windscreen.

Edited January 27, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[Guest]

I predict this turns out really nice in the end. It’s like if we were watching homes getting constructed and everyone was commenting on how ugly the wood decking on the roof is before the shingles go on it... These high rises take a while, and this “layer” could be just that. I predict video screening or some sort of other layer placed on top of this one. We will see

They’ve rezoned for a massive LED allowance per side so I haven’t given up either. There is a year before this opens afterall.


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[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

42 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

They’ve rezoned for a massive LED allowance per side so I haven’t given up either. There is a year before this opens afterall.
 

I wonder if the LEDs will be installed from the inside of the crown...similar to Salesforce tower.  Would explain the translucent material they are using up there too.  

If it is an external LED panel like signage, then it could have the potential to screen the mechanical stuff a little better.

*I'm going to let this play out until it's completed.  Once the lighting scheme is finished, I'm sure it will be fantastic, esp if there is some video capability to the LEDs.  People were worried about the exposed mechanical stuff up in 300ST sail too.  LU crown. etc.  This will turnout fine as well.

Edited January 27, 2020 by CharlotteWkndBuzz

[wadesboro2]

I wonder if the LEDs will be installed from the inside of the crown...similar to Salesforce tower.  Would explain the translucent material they are using up there too.  
If it is an external LED panel like signage, then it could have the potential to screen the mechanical stuff a little better.
*I'm going to let this play out until it's completed.  Once the lighting scheme is finished, I'm sure it will be fantastic, esp if there is some video capability to the LEDs.  People were worried about the exposed mechanical stuff up in 300ST sail too.  LU crown. etc.  This will turnout fine as well.

Agree, the roof installation will be cool when complete. I like the idea of some broadway-style lighting in uptown. Now that parking deck on the other hand...


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[Guest]

7 minutes ago, wadesboro2 said:

 

Agree, the roof installation will be cool when complete. I like the idea of some broadway-style lighting in uptown. Now that parking deck on the other hand...


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Will be screened in some way.

[SydneyCarton]

8 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

They’ve rezoned for a massive LED allowance per side so I haven’t given up either. There is a year before this opens afterall.


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So this may actually turn out to be spectacular.Since this tower will be occupied by a bank, I'd like to see the sign show the stock market and financial tickers, which would reflect Charlotte's role as a financial center.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[Yeahdoug]

Probably LEDs on all those vertical supports on the inside. That’s the only reason you’d make it translucent imo 

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

16 minutes ago, Yeahdoug said:

Probably LEDs on all those vertical supports on the inside. That’s the only reason you’d make it translucent imo 

Inside the crown would be my guess too.  Something like these translucent LED curtail walls being installed.  Really, really hope there is a video aspect to the LEDs and not just lighting effects.  Would pair well LU1's giant video wall in the lobby.  Could create a very cool vibe over there one day with the video boards.

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

Inside the crown would be my guess too.  Something like these translucent LED curtail walls being installed.  Really, really hope there is a video aspect to the LEDs and not just lighting effects.  Would pair well LU1's giant video wall in the lobby.  Could create a very cool vibe over there one day with the video boards.

They are doing this on the side of Duke Energy Center 2. 8 floors.

[SydneyCarton]

36 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

They are doing this on the side of Duke Energy Center 2. 8 floors.

Between DEC 2 and Ally, this part of Tryon will have a lot of pizazz with all of that LED lighting.

[Yeahdoug]

Speaking of crown lighting, anybody ever notice the one LED panel on the west side of the Vue’s crown that’s not in correct order. Drives me nuts whe they have the color going around. 

Edited January 27, 2020 by Yeahdoug

[KJHburg]

no matter the height finally is I like this building and hotel (not the garage should have had retail on ground floor) walk by photos today and from my perch.  sorry some rain drops on my camera lens today. 

[wadesboro2]

Will be screened in some way.

Even still it’s not very well integrated (but not as bad as LU). Since this was (almost but not quite) a build to suit for Ally I was hoping for either underground parking or conditioned parking - like the older Wachovia buildings, where the curtain wall on the deck matches the tower


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[Yeahdoug]

Could Charlotte implement that all new freestanding parking structure have first floor retail? There’s stretches of road that are all first floor parking deck in uptown and it looks like garbage. 
 

Seems like a waste of valuable street frontage. 

Edited January 27, 2020 by Yeahdoug