Ally Charlotte Center (f/k/a Tryon Place) - 26 floors - 427'

[SydneyCarton]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

they do and from what I have seen of their next tower y'all will like it tall and in southend. 

Is it one of the sites that have threads or something entirely different?  Hopefully, the latter.

[KJHburg]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Is it one of the sites that have threads or something entirely different?  Hopefully, the latter.

no thread yet but mentioned in the Southend High Rise Thread.   Something will sprout very tall from the Enterprise rental car site. 

[SydneyCarton]

26 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

no thread yet but mentioned in the Southend High Rise Thread.   Something will sprout very tall from the Enterprise rental car site. 

Wow.  That's a huge site.  Will it be office, residential, hotel, or all of the above?

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Wow.  That's a huge site.  Will it be office, residential, hotel, or all of the above?

All the above.

[kayman]

We need more mixed use high rises in Uptown but also SouthEnd 

[RANYC]

Loved this article.  Natwick graduated from UF with a construction management degree.  I graduated from UF in accounting, but met someone junior year studying construction management, and had never considered the idea and was super envious.  My envy has only grown over time.

Btw, Natwick appears to support the UDO, but exhorts the city to be cautious of unintended consequences from such a massive document.  He did say, however, that consolidating the approval process so that someone doesn't need to go to 20 different groups but just 1 group to get something built, will serve Charlotte well.

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by RANYC

[tozmervo]

3 hours ago, RANYC said:

Loved this article.  Natwick graduated from UF with a construction management degree.  I graduated from UF in accounting, but met someone junior year studying construction management, and had never considered the idea and was super envious.  My envy has only grown over time.

Btw, Natwick appears to support the UDO, but exhorts the city to be cautious of unintended consequences from such a massive document.  He did say, however, that consolidating the approval process so that someone doesn't need to go to 20 different groups but just 1 group to get something built, will serve Charlotte well.

 

Consolidation is the key here. The new UDO will replace multiple governing documents, not just the existing zoning manual. Even looking at the draft, it's much more user friendly.  It's further intended to massively reduce the number of rezonings that have to take place at all, which the development community should love. 

[KJHburg]

9 hours ago, CarolinaDaydreamin said:

All the above.

Correct office, residential, ground floor retail and a hotel.  

[Mgelbach]

[atlrvr]

Nice way to get around the sign ordinance.  Create a parking deck so hideous that the city could care less that you create a 5k sq ft advertisement for your company disguised as a temporary sports banner. Very slick 

[go_vertical]

I have a question for anyone that may have a deeper understanding of how the requirements are worded than I.  Is a deck screening this threadbare allowed by-right or is it possible Ally or whoever petitioned the city to be able to do this?  I'm happy that raw dog garages aren't allowed anymore and I don't believe they necessarily have to be beautiful but this is such a piss poor excuse for a covering and this is the only recently constructed one that really gets under my skin. 

I love that there are beautification requirements are in place but if they are pitifully vague or developers aren't called out for skirting them then what's the point?  The skid mark that is the Truist signage is another glaring example. 

[TheRealClayton]

2 hours ago, go_vertical said:

I have a question for anyone that may have a deeper understanding of how the requirements are worded than I.  Is a deck screening this threadbare allowed by-right or is it possible Ally or whoever petitioned the city to be able to do this?  I'm happy that raw dog garages aren't allowed anymore and I don't believe they necessarily have to be beautiful but this is such a piss poor excuse for a covering and this is the only recently constructed one that really gets under my skin. 

I love that there are beautification requirements are in place but if they are pitifully vague or developers aren't called out for skirting them then what's the point?  The skid mark that is the Truist signage is another glaring example. 

Currently there is no requirement for screening... The standards only take up 2/3 of a 8.5x11 page

Here is what the UDO will require.

Edited January 5, 2022 by TheRealClayton

[go_vertical]

So this whole time that I thought garage screening was required was really just the city encouraging and asking for them to be covered?  I don't know why I thought that. 

[TheRealClayton]

12 hours ago, go_vertical said:

So this whole time that I thought garage screening was required was really just the city encouraging and asking for them to be covered?  I don't know why I thought that. 

I think it was more response to the public and trying to meet expectations of the community.

[RANYC]

I think I read in the UDO that screening would be required for both garages and surface parking.

[stw52]

Taken last Sunday. Nice touch by Ally

[deleted account]

On 3/1/2022 at 5:31 PM, stw52 said:

Taken last Sunday. Nice touch by Ally

Truist tower was all yellow and blue last night and aside from the welcome show of support for Ukraine, it was also a great color scheme generally speaking (much better than the purple).

Edited March 3, 2022 by JBS

[704Dimitri]

Lit.

[atlrvr]

https://www.museumofillusions.com/#about

Looks like a Museum of Illusions will be opening in one of the retail spaces here.

Edit:  looks like Jason Thomas beat me to this in the instaworld.

[CLT2014]

The contrast between the success of retail and amenities filling up at the Ally Charlotte Center versus Legacy Union is amazing. 

[Madison Parkitect]

1 hour ago, atlrvr said:

https://www.museumofillusions.com/#about

Looks like a Museum of Illusions will be opening in one of the retail spaces here.

[turbocraig]

5 hours ago, atlrvr said:

https://www.museumofillusions.com/#about

Looks like a Museum of Illusions will be opening in one of the retail spaces here.

Edit:  looks like Jason Thomas beat me to this in the instaworld.

Wow, a lot of impressive cities on that list.  

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

5 hours ago, CLT2014 said:

The contrast between the success of retail and amenities filling up at the Ally Charlotte Center versus Legacy Union is amazing. 

Ally’s design for retail finally broke the mold of every bank tower uptown (massive lobby and minimal/zero retail). Although people on here don’t like the crown, this is still pretty transformative project in my eyes. And the announcement of this museum (a non food/bev option) is a huge win for uptown and this project. Short term outlook, I agree with your statement but I’m still holding out on the full buildout of LU before I take a stance on the retail situation. 

[J-Rob]

43 minutes ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

Although people on here don’t like the crown, this is still pretty transformative project in my eyes.

I think both of these things can be true. Most people (myself included) that are disappointed in the crown are still appreciative of the overall design.  The street level is fantastic. One of the reasons the crown is disappointing is because they talked it up, but barely ever have it lit that I can tell.

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

^Agree, it can be both. A lot of ppl don’t even realize the Ally letters up there are a video board too.  Saw it was showing the Charlotte fc logo on game day.  I don’t know if this would have been tacky or cool but wish the whole rectangular crown was a video board or some sort of video projection. Similar technology like the Salesforce crown. But you are right about the crown being hyped and then being underwhelming. Honestly I stopped thinking about the crown until someone brings it up on here which in this case was me today haha sorry guys. 

Edited May 16, 2022 by CharlotteWkndBuzz