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Wealthy Street Needed Renovations

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9 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

Really? 20 restaurants in a two-block area not enough for you? :)

Or 4, Jonny B'z, Elk, Winchester, Donkey. And Elk only kind of counts. Winchester and Donkey are two of my most frequented establishments, both in easy walking distance. I would love to have a new option or 2 come to that stretch. I know Georgina's is going in, but 1 more couldn't hurt.

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11 hours ago, terra firma said:

Well, we were open to that too of course---and we had a great offer from an established operator.   The retail stores were ready to go tho, and a simpler buildout....   and based on what the neighborhood association said they wanted, it just made life easy so we hit the button.  

I heard rumblings of Zack Sklar and friend chicken. I'll be perfectly happy with retail going in there, we just need Tatum to move their business elsewhere and free up the last bit of that intersection.

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29 minutes ago, Pattmost20 said:

Or 4, Jonny B'z, Elk, Winchester, Donkey. And Elk only kind of counts. Winchester and Donkey are two of my most frequented establishments, both in easy walking distance. I would love to have a new option or 2 come to that stretch. I know Georgina's is going in, but 1 more couldn't hurt.

I would venture to say that Wealthy Street is pretty close to saturation point with restaurants. Otherwise it will continue to have to rely on people driving there to keep all of these restaurants open. Keep in mind there are at least two new restaurants going in down the block near Wealthy Theatre. 

But whateves, not my money. :)

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8 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

I would venture to say that Wealthy Street is pretty close to saturation point with restaurants. Otherwise it will continue to have to rely on people driving there to keep all of these restaurants open. Keep in mind there are at least two new restaurants going in down the block near Wealthy Theatre. 

But whateves, not my money. :)

Still have to wait an hour and a half to get into Donkey on the weekends.

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3 hours ago, Pattmost20 said:

Still have to wait an hour and a half to get into Donkey on the weekends.

Chik Fil A also needs space for 20 cars in their drive through. 

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On 8/28/2017 at 3:54 PM, terra firma said:

Updated pics--- share your input !    The sample looked good but it came out kinda "orange" as you can see in the photo.   Not exactly as I'd hoped, but improvement over the original storefront for sure..    Which one of you designers has a good recovery plan for us to consider ?   Until the stain soaks in, we probably can't re-stain or paint just yet.

Other news: we have secured two different retail  Tenants.    I don't dare announce their names before asking, Leases are being signed this week.    Both will be a great fit for this block, with lots of synergy with other (existing) business already in the neighborhood.  These are retail shops, not bars.   Names coming soon-- hope to be operational by November.

-eric

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I think it looks great actually. The dark stained wood being used a lot probably only has about 3 - 5 years left and it will be out-of-style, in my humble construction opinion.

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On 8/28/2017 at 3:54 PM, terra firma said:

Updated pics--- share your input !    The sample looked good but it came out kinda "orange" as you can see in the photo.   Not exactly as I'd hoped, but improvement over the original storefront for sure..    Which one of you designers has a good recovery plan for us to consider ?   Until the stain soaks in, we probably can't re-stain or paint just yet.

Other news: we have secured two different retail  Tenants.    I don't dare announce their names before asking, Leases are being signed this week.    Both will be a great fit for this block, with lots of synergy with other (existing) business already in the neighborhood.  These are retail shops, not bars.   Names coming soon-- hope to be operational by November.

-eric

Definitely an improvement, but you're right that it's missing something.  I'll admit I walked by it and thought "Pioneer town?" Problem is this:  It isn't Woodland Mall.  Traditionally exteriors were never done in stain because it simply does not last.  You end up restaining it every two years. Paint it.  It will never look right so long as you try to stain the thing.  www.historichousecolors.com  will get it right for a few hundred bucks for a color consult.  Hit it first with a tannin blocking primer to kill the knots, then apply the paint.  Fixed.

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On 8/30/2017 at 5:04 PM, x99 said:

Definitely an improvement, but you're right that it's missing something.  I'll admit I walked by it and thought "Pioneer town?" Problem is this:  It isn't Woodland Mall.  Traditionally exteriors were never done in stain because it simply does not last.  You end up restaining it every two years. Paint it.  It will never look right so long as you try to stain the thing.  www.historichousecolors.com  will get it right for a few hundred bucks for a color consult.  Hit it first with a tannin blocking primer to kill the knots, then apply the paint.  Fixed.

Just saw this, x99 may be right on this one. 

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10 hours ago, TheLonesomeHobo said:

New York Men's Wear is beginning a facelift, that awful purple / maroon awning was removed this week. Also, Georgina's is about a month away from opening up.

That is nice...hope they dress up their windows too.  Take the awful gates from inside the windows...looks like an inner city liquor store.

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22 minutes ago, mpchicago said:

Woosah Outfitters is moving to Wealthy somewhere near The Winchester, but, I'm told not in the new Terra Firma storefront.

Joining the brigade of S division businesses moving to East Hills/Eastown. 

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1 minute ago, Pattmost20 said:

Joining the brigade of S division businesses moving to East Hills/Eastown. 

I don't blame these business for moving from Division to Eastown,  but its a shame.   That stretch of Division, arguably, has some of the best early 20th century commercial architecture anywhere in the city.   NOTE: I'm not trying to nor do I think we should open up another discussion  about Division here.... :)

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#1 I am absolutely thrilled to hear this! I went to their store during ArtPrize last year and was enchanted by the place. I just wasn't going to venture down to Heartside any other time to buy anything.

#2 I also recall how one of the staff people there were interviewed during the whole Propaganda Doughnuts blow-up, saying that the reasons cited by them weren't really valid, and that they love their location... to that effect.

Oops!

 

Anyway, I hope they get tons of business now. Welcome! Maybe they are going into the Wealthy at Charles spot?

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1 hour ago, mpchicago said:

I don't blame these business for moving from Division to Eastown,  but its a shame.   That stretch of Division, arguably, has some of the best early 20th century commercial architecture anywhere in the city.   NOTE: I'm not trying to nor do I think we should open up another discussion  about Division here.... :)

No I agree, love the architecture on that stretch and want it desperately to attract thriving businesses. Unfortunately it has been slow to catch up. But regardless it will be nice having Woosah on that stretch of Wealthy.

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3 hours ago, Pattmost20 said:

Joining the brigade of S division businesses moving to East Hills/Eastown. 

And bringing the Woosah... ;)

I'm glad to see all of these independent businesses move in close proximity of each other. I think Division is going to need another reboot at some point. 

Joe

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54 minutes ago, joeDowntown said:

And bringing the Woosah... ;)

I'm glad to see all of these independent businesses move in close proximity of each other. I think Division is going to need another reboot at some point. 

It got one.  Silverline, remember?  Silverline just spawned a new  Dollar Tree as part of the economic inferno it is unleashing.  I think what Wealthy really needs to give it a kick in the pants is a new bus line.  Maybe that will get Mom back into her Golden Grill.  Or why not just open a business called Mom's Golden Grillz that sells dental appliances?  Then all you need to do is spray paint a "Z" on the sign and BOOM you're in business.  

I hate waiting for Friday to end.

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On 9/29/2017 at 11:03 AM, mpchicago said:

Woosah Outfitters is moving to Wealthy somewhere near The Winchester, but, I'm told not in the new Terra Firma storefront.

Confirmed, they are not coming (I don't think they looked at it) but we have a different retailer that is.    

Women's fashion / accessories, they are a mid-sized midwestern group of stores based largely in college towns, very hip and trendy brand.  Deal is negotiated but not formally signed.   I'll announce it here first, once the Lease  document is formalized.

We also bought two other buildings in the uptown area, one last month and the other closing next week, details coming soon.

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10 minutes ago, terra firma said:

Confirmed, they are not coming (I don't think they looked at it) but we have a different retailer that is.    

Women's fashion / accessories, they are a mid-sized midwestern group of stores based largely in college towns, very hip and trendy brand.  Deal is negotiated but not formally signed.   I'll announce it here first, once the Lease  document is formalized.

We also bought two other buildings in the uptown area, one last month and the other closing next week, details coming soon.

Great news! Both that you might be bringing in something pretty great and that  you might be able to do the same for a couple more Uptown buildings. 

RE: Woosah - they are going where Wealthy at Charles was. They've got some really great ideas for the garden area! 

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7 hours ago, GVSUChris said:

Great news! Both that you might be bringing in something pretty great and that  you might be able to do the same for a couple more Uptown buildings. 

RE: Woosah - they are going where Wealthy at Charles was. They've got some really great ideas for the garden area! 

Well there's a little insider info right there. :ph34r:

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15 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

Well there's a little insider info right there. :ph34r:

I heard Wealthy & Charles is no longer moving across the street - they are retiring. Has anyone else heard the same?

Joe

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4 minutes ago, joeDowntown said:

I heard Wealthy & Charles is no longer moving across the street - they are retiring. Has anyone else heard the same?

Joe

Mike and Lenn have retired.  Good for them!  They had a long run on the corner.  They told me that they sold to a women's clothing company that was moving off Division.  I assume it is the one being discussed earlier in  this thread.  The new business owner will be living upstairs as Mike and Lenn did while running her business on the main floor.  She plans to preserve the gardens.

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On 10/11/2017 at 9:48 AM, KCLBADave said:

Mike and Lenn have retired.  Good for them!  They had a long run on the corner.  They told me that they sold to a women's clothing company that was moving off Division.  I assume it is the one being discussed earlier in  this thread.  The new business owner will be living upstairs as Mike and Lenn did while running her business on the main floor.  She plans to preserve the gardens.

Nice! It's a great building. Sad to see Wealthy at Charles go. They had a lot of cool stuff!

Joe

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