proof of extraterrestrials?

[cityboi]

Oh yes I heard of this rumor a while ago. One can easily write his testimony off because he was a comedian. But one thing that doesnt sound right is President Nixon personally driving to Jackie Gleason's house. Also the president of the United States doesnt have the authority to bring anyone he pleases into a top secret base to see dead aliens in a freezer. UFOs were more top secret than the atomic bomb. In fact not all presidents were briefed. But those two thing dont hold water with me. It kinda hard to tell wether or not Obama has been briefed to some degree. LOL if there to be some mass UFO landing in 2012, then for sure he would be briefed on the topic.

Edited April 25, 2009 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

Oh yes I heard of this rumor a while ago. One can easily write his testimony off because he was a comedian. But one thing that doesnt sound right is President Nixon personally driving to Jackie Gleason's house. Also the president of the United States doesnt have the authority to bring anyone he pleases into a top secret base to see dead aliens in a freezer. UFOs were more top secret than the atomic bomb. In fact not all presidents were briefed. But those two thing dont hold water with me. It kinda hard to tell wether or not Obama has been briefed to some degree. LOL if there to be some mass UFO landing in 2012, then for sure he would be briefed on the topic.

These are issues my partner and I discussed, and I raised the same points you did:

1. Could Nixon have actually gone out in Miami in a car alone? I doubt it.

2. Would air force security have let Jackie Gleason into a top secret area, even if he was with the president? I doubt it.

3. And I agree with you that presidents might not even be privy to these kinds of secrets in the first place.

Still it's an interesting story.

[cityboi]

These are issues my partner and I discussed, and I raised the same points you did:

1. Could Nixon have actually gone out in Miami in a car alone? I doubt it.

2. Would air force security have let Jackie Gleason into a top secret area, even if he was with the president? I doubt it.

3. And I agree with you that presidents might not even be privy to these kinds of secrets in the first place.

Still it's an interesting story.

Even believers can smell bull though lol. I think a believer in UFOs shouldn't believe every story they read because a great deal of it is indeed bunk. but if you do your own investigations, use a little common sense, its easier to see the differnece between what bull and what real. The problem with people's mindset is that if some or most of what happens are hoaxes than none of it is real in their minds. Believe it or not, hoaxes and disinformation are excellent tactics in hiding something "in plain sight". Throw some truth out there and mixed it with hog wash or have the 100% truth come from questionable/unbelievable sources. Hire some people every now and them to hoax lights in the sky and crop circles. Its easier than people think because they have kept this under wraps for over 60 years.

Edited April 26, 2009 by cityboi

[monsoon]

..... Also the president of the United States doesnt have the authority to bring anyone he pleases into a top secret base to see dead aliens in a freezer. UFOs were more top secret than the atomic bomb. .......

Are you offering this up as your opinion? The President is the head of the military and as such has the legal right to go to any military base and to review any activity being handled by the military. There are organizations performing secret operations in the USA. This is quite different from what you suggest which are secret organizations that are operating in a completely autonomous manner from the elected government. No congress or president would sign up for this, especially considering the national defense considerations if such a thing as dead aliens and their technology were true.

[cityboi]

Are you offering this up as your opinion? The President is the head of the military and as such has the legal right to go to any military base and to review any activity being handled by the military. There are organizations performing secret operations in the USA. This is quite different from what you suggest which are secret organizations that are operating in a completely autonomous manner from the elected government. No congress or president would sign up for this, especially considering the national defense considerations if such a thing as dead aliens and their technology were true.

Actually that is not entirely true. The president is not authorized to just going into Area 51 when he wants to for example. The president is not a king. You have to really understand the nature of the cover-up and understand that there is a secret government that has no one to answer to. When you dont have anyone to answer to, you can pretty much do anything you want. I think that alone is a reason for a cover-up because how would they explain to the American people how their dollars were spent on these black projects. But its very possible that some presidents have not been briefed on this. For me I know UFOs are real. There is enough evidence out there for me to except that. There are some very profound reasons for keeping this under wraps and it would not surprise me if there is a seperate "shadow type government" in control of it all. Everything is compartmentlized. As far as the established organizations in government like the CIA and even NASA, they dont even see the whole picture and know the whole truth. The average people in this country dont even have a clue whats going on.

Edited April 26, 2009 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

Of course he wasn't president, but Sen. Barry Goldwater was denied entry to Area 51. And it occurred when he was a high-up in the Senate Defense Committee.

When Goldwater requested to tour the facility, a top military brass angrily shouted at him over the telephone, demanded he never mention it again, and slammed the phone down.

Yes the president does have a right to show up and tour any U.S. military facility in the world. But I still question if Area 51 isn't an exception. Area 51 seems to be outside any governmental controls. Proof of that is the EPA has no say-so whatsoever what happens on the base, and deadly toxic burning has been known to occur there.

Interesting when Bill Clinton assumed the presidency, one of his first requests was to know the truth about UFOs/Area 51, and who killed JFK. Even Bill Clinton obviously didn't believe the silly cover stories offered by the government.

When it comes to telling the truth about sensitive matters, the US government has an abysmal record. Who actually believes the government anymore?

[cityboi]

Of course he wasn't president, but Sen. Barry Goldwater was denied entry to Area 51. And it occurred when he was a high-up in the Senate Defense Committee.

When Goldwater requested to tour the facility, a top military brass angrily shouted at him over the telephone, demanded he never mention it again, and slammed the phone down.

Yes the president does have a right to show up and tour any U.S. military facility in the world. But I still question if Area 51 isn't an exception. Area 51 seems to be outside any governmental controls. Proof of that is the EPA has no say-so whatsoever what happens on the base, and deadly toxic burning has been known to occur there.

Interesting when Bill Clinton assumed the presidency, one of his first requests was to know the truth about UFOs/Area 51, and who killed JFK. Even Bill Clinton obviously didn't believe the silly cover stories offered by the government.

When it comes to telling the truth about sensitive matters, the US government has an abysmal record. Who actually believes the government anymore?

I do know that Area 51 s run by a private entity. The base itself may not even be owned by the US Government for obvious reasons but there would have to be a partnership between the government and its owners.

Here is a documentary on Area 51. Its a ten part video on youtube so you'll have to follow the links when each part is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpaPMA8A2js

Edited April 27, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

UFO artifact?

This is an artifact from an alleged UFO crash back in 1985. Brand new tests done show that the metal matches no known aluminum alloy made on this planet. It has also been determined that this is not a piece of meteorite, astroid or any other natural object from space. Scientists have confirmed that the object itself was formed by some sort of "artificial" process. The object will be revealed on the History Channel in May

Also here is an image of a supposed dead alien from the Roswell crash. Roswell eye witnesses during the 40s described the beings as very human looking but not human and they said they almost looked chinese.

Edited April 28, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Here is a documentary showing that the NAZIs were developing flying saucer as a super weapon in the World War II. However the NAZIs never got a chance to finish its development after the U.S. won the war. What is intersting is that many of the NAZI scientists did in fact end up working for NASA and most of those scientists that came to the states ended up in New Mexico and Nevada, two of the nation's biggest UFO hot spots. Why would these NAZI scientists be qualified for space flight? The documentary shows what Hitler was up to and it shows actual plans and even a photo of Hitler standing next to a prototype flying saucer. One of the NAZIs top scientist said "we were help by people from other worlds"

documentary with 6 parts and A MUST SEE. This documentary is more interesting than the one below. This documentary presents a different theory that all the UFOs are man made from NAZI origin. That may be true to some degree because most are probably back engineered alien craft but the documentary didn't address where the NAZIs got their technology from. And it doesn't address other evidence that shows an extraterrestrial link. But I do think to some degree this documentary got it right because there are man made UFOs but there are also extraterrestrial UFOs as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9chagHi-I4

the music gets annoying on this one real quick.

description of the 1965 Kecksburg UFO

1940s Nazi Bell

Edited April 29, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

physical evidence of alien visitation? an piece from an allege UFO has some very interesting properties.

Edited May 12, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

what are the dancing lights in the sky in this episode of UFO HUnters? you'll see them at 5:43 minutes into the clip. They clearly dont look like anything we could do.

Edited May 27, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

It also looks like "back engineered" technology behind these UFOs are beginning to creep into the public domain. Folks those Hover Boards from Back to the Future may be around the corner.

"Boeing, the world’s largest aircraft manufacturer, has admitted it is working on experimental anti-gravity projects that could overturn a century of conventional aerospace propulsion technology if the science underpinning them can be engineered into hardware."

Boeing admits, that "classified activities" in gravity modification may exist

http://current.com/items/89082807_boeing-d...-propulsion.htm

classified technology is always about 30 or 40 years ahead of publicly known technology. Remember Stealth technology was invented in the 1960s with secret flights in the 1970s, but wasn't revealed to the public until about 1990. Since technology doesn't stand still it makes you wonder what the heck they could be working on right now. The fact that Boeing announced this several years ago means that the U.S. government is already secretly flying anti-gravity propulsion aircraft. That explains some of the sightings of craft quietly zipping across the skies, making right angle turns and stopping on a dime. There is a saying that truth is often stranger than fiction.

Edited May 28, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Alien Moon Dome?

several former NASA Personnel have come forward and said that not only are UFOs real but there are artificial structures on the far side of moon. Some are extremely ancient while others are being occupied by ETs. The former NASA officials and astronauts have said there are structures miles high, domes over craters transparent pyramids and what looks like ruins of very ancient cities. The photo above is a close up of one of NASA's released photos and there appears to be a reflection on something thats round over the crater like a glass dome. Scientists all agree that because of the environment on the moon, glass can be almost as strong as steel.

This is pretty interesting

Investigators are especially interested in ancient structures resembling partially destroyed cities. The orbital shooting reveals an astonishingly regular geometry of square and rectangular constructions. They resemble our terrestrial cities seen from the height of 5-8 kilometers. A mission control specialist commented on the pictures: “Our guys observed ruins of the Lunar cities, transparent pyramids, domes and God knows what else, which are currently hidden deep inside the NASA safes, and felt like Robinson Crusoe when he suddenly came across prints of human bare feet on the sand of the desert island.”

If it is true that there are artificial structures on the moon, the question is who built them? An alien race? or did ancient man from our remote past some how had the capability to get to the moon and build them. Evidence of ancient advanced technology can be erased through the changes of the earth's surface over millions of years while on the moon such evidence can be preserved. Earth's evolution happens in cycles so it could be possible that man was on the earth long before the dinosuars and such evidence is buried too deep for us to discover it because of dramatic changes in the earth. But in fact all ancient civilizations speak of gods being able to fly in the heavens. In the Book of Enoch (Enoch was Noah's grandfather), He says that in space "it was hot as fire and cold as ice" (where objects get hot on the side of the moon illuminated by the sun and icy cold on the shaded side.) The book of Enoch, which was at one time a part of the Bible, says that Enoch was taken up to the heavens, walked with God and was shown the secrets of the universe.

The Epic of Etana (4,700 years old) supplies us with very accurate descriptions of the earth's surface from high altitudes, descriptions which were not verified in our own era until high-altitude flights of the 1950s and the first space shots of the 1950s. The description of ancient space flight depicts exactly what happens when man leaves the earth (the concept of the round earth which becomes small, due to perspective as distance increases, and changes into particular colors).

On July 20, 1969 during the last reconnaissance flight around the moon, preceding the landing, one astronaut made an unexpected announcement. He had just seen the contours of what seemed to be some sort of 7-story structure. What was it that he saw? Why did NASA delete a full 11 minutes including the astronaut's statement from rebroadcasts? Just think of what evidence of any past intelligence on the moon, alien or human, would do to our conventional history.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html

Edited June 10, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Is this a UFO or a ring of smoke? You be the judge. Smoke tends to spread out and disperse as it moves but this is a perfect ring that floats across the air. Kings Dominion says its smoke from a Volcano attraction but how come nobody ever noticed it before?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/0...o.sighting.wavy

Edited June 17, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

This is a very interesting link. its sheds some light on the UFO phenomenon from a religious perspective.

[cityboi]

Here is another interesting video that could show evidence of past civilization on mars and possible ruins on the moon. I think you'll find this one interesting

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6241670168595778250

Edited June 25, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

President Truman was president during the time period of the alleged Roswell UFO crash in July of 1947. It was said that Truman had direct knowledge of the Roswell crash and he formed a group of 12 (Majestic 12) to study all this. They were people of high stature including a number of the world's top scientist. Evidence of this group has leaked out in official declassified documents. In fact, the flight records of one of the MJ12 member shows a flight from Dayton, Ohio to Roswell, NM around July 8, 1947, a few days after the Roswell crash. President Truman made a public statement. He said "the only thing new in this world is the history you don't know" Was Truman trying to tell us something? Clearly he was saying that there were cover-ups of "things" of great importance to humanity. Another thing that seems suspicious is that in the same month of the Roswell crash, July 1947, Truman set up government organizations such as the Airforce. He promoted James V. Forrestal as secretary of Defense who interestingly enough was one of the alleged members of the Majestic Twelve). There was speculation that Forrestal was going to spill the beans at some point because he was later admitted to a hospital for depression and he mysteriously died. It was explained away that he committed suicide. People always say this can't be real because the government can't keep a secret that big. The truth of the matter is that they really don't have to because its so hard to believe that any secrets that leak out would be viewed and hoaxes, lies and disinformation. The subject is treated with great ridicule and its basically hidden in plain sight.

Edited July 29, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of Monolith on Mars Moon

Is Buzz Aldrin revealing something unusual on the moon of Mars on the sly or is he working with NASA to cover-up and say its natural before the public finds out.

http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intellig...n-UFOs-involved

Edited July 30, 2009 by cityboi

[Allison Slater]

Why does it cut off right there? Is there any source where the video clip continues after that? Seems like an odd place to end the clip.

[Charlotteman]

^^ I hate to be a spoilsport, but we can't discount the possibility that Buzz Aldrin has been hired by the CIA as a disinformation agent. No one loves UFO lore more than America's secret government. It enables them to do illegal stuff in space.

The secret government has been using Alienology/UFOlogy as a cover for years. We simply can't be sure if this whole thing with Aldrin isn't just another CIA pysch op.

[cityboi]

Well we know NASA is doing some secret stuff in space whether its related to extraterrestrials or not. If its not alien technology can anyone tell me how the "craft" in this video can stop and then take off like that. There is nothing conventional that can make that kind of maneuver. Something is being fired at the object. This video was from live NASA feed. Its very interesting that immediately after this footage was broadcast all around the world on tv shows, NASA stopped its live feed. NASA lies and they are part of the cover-up It has been said that NASA stands for Never A Straight Answer. I'm not sure why many find it so hard to believe that ETs are real. Clearly if human beings can exist other intelligent life forms can exist as well. We are not unique in this vast universe with billions of galaxies and billions of stars within those galaxies. I don't think any of us realize how big the universe is. In fact scientists theorize that there are multi-verses and multi dimensions. Some scientists even believe that there are other dimensions with another sun and earth on a different timeline. For example, there may be a dimension where John McCain becomes president instead of Obama. Im pretty sure that with intelligent life being out there, some of them are far more advanced that we are and have learned how to overcome the barriers of distances in space in regards to flight.

Edited August 4, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

here is a scientist confirming the mystery object in the NASA footage that darted away is a UFO. The "scientific" explaination makes sense

[cityboi]

here is some more interesting information. Bob Lazar is the man who claimed he helped reverse engineer an extraterrestrial craft back in 1989 at top secret base called "S4" located near Area 51. According to Lazar and others ET craft are not kept or tested at Area 51, in fact the people that work at Area 51 have no knowledge of ET craft. This is why Area S4 base was built according to Lazar. Lazar described how the saucer craft he worked on operated. He said there are two types of gravity. "gravity A" and "gravity B". Gravity B is the gravity that holds us to the ground and keeps the earth in orbit around the sun. Gravity A is at the atomic level and this is the gravity ET craft tap into to defy earth's gravity. This gravity is not really understood by mainstream scientists. but anyway back in 1989 Bob Lazar stated that these craft were powered by "Element 115" which was an element that did not exist in known science. Scientists laughed at his claim of element 115 because they said there could be no 115 because rapid decay would prevent Element 115 from being born. But the interesting part is that in 2003 Russian scientists final discovered element 115 and proved that its real. What also seems to be a coincidence is that a year earlier in 2002 Boeing announced to the world that it was experimenting on anti-gravity propulsion aircraft and they were going to use the research of a Russian scientist. ummmmmm

Element 115, the key to understanding how the ultra-secret "Black World" has created aircraft capable of manipulating gravity and space/time, has been identified, and the recent discovery of element 118, which decayed into element 114, further helps identify the possibilities.

The most important attribute of this heavier, stable element is that the gravity A wave is so abundant that it actually extends past the perimeter of the atom. These heavier, stable elements literally have their own gravity A field around them, in addition to the gravity B field that is native to all matter.

The Key To Gravity-Control Systems

No naturally occurring atoms on earth have enough protons and neutrons for the cumulative gravity A wave to extend past the perimeter of the atom so you can access it. Now even though the distance that the gravity A wave extends past the perimeter of the atom is infinitesimal, it is accessible and it has amplitude, wave length, and frequency, just like any other wave in the electromagnetic spectrum. Once you can access the gravity A wave, you can amplify it just like we amplify other electromagnetic waves. And in like manner, the gravity A wave is amplified and then focused on the desired destination to cause the space/time distortion required for practical space travel. This amplified gravity A wave is so powerful that the only naturally occurring source of gravity that could cause space/time to distort this much would be a black hole. We're amplifying a wave that barely extends past the perimeter of an atom until it's large enough to distort vast amounts of space/time. There is always science behind what seems like magic. But talk about fuel efficient, Bob Lazar claims a half a pound of element 115 is sufficient to operate an anti-gravity craft for 30 to 45 years.

How do ET craft go from one part of the universe to another in a rapid amount of time? When you're distorting space/time and you have the abiltiy of generating an intense gravitational field, then the fastest way from point A to point B is to distort, or warp, or bend the space/time between points A and B, bringing points A and B closer together. The more intense the gravitational field, the greater the distortion of space/time and the shorter the distance between points A and B. So this is how the craft get over the distance barrier.

Bob Lazar was privied to other technology that was not known to the public back in 1989. He said in 1989 that there was such engines as pulse detonation wave engines and in the last few years they have come out. (publicly) But Lazar has said that ETs are FAR beyond us in technology and we can't even comprehend most of it. To have there technology, you pretty much have to know the secrets of the universe and really the secrets of life. So if these beings were coming to earth visiting ancient man, there is no wonder they were seen as gods and were the basis of many ancient religions and mythology.

Edited August 6, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

This is a great video. It may shed some light on what NASA REALLY found on the moon. 6:57 really sent chills down my back!

Edited August 10, 2009 by cityboi

[crazzycat]

TNX for very interesting info, about pyramids i read and think that there are so many proofs they wasn't constructed by human that it become a fact not only a suggestion