proof of extraterrestrials?

[Charlotteman]

^^The story is still out re: the moon's inner content. Interesting that it can't be proven if the moon is hollow or not.

Could an alien civilization a million years more advanced be able to transport heavenly bodies? Probably. The moon could very well have been brought to the Earth, in order to make a habitable world.

Isn't it also an astonishing coincidence that from Earth, the Sun and Moon are the same size. And don't forget our moon is hugely out of proportion to our own planet.

[cityboi]

^^The story is still out re: the moon's inner content. Interesting that it can't be proven if the moon is hollow or not.

Could an alien civilization a million years more advanced be able to transport heavenly bodies? Probably. The moon could very well have been brought to the Earth, in order to make a habitable world.

Isn't it also an astonishing coincidence that from Earth, the Sun and Moon are the same size. And don't forget our moon is hugely out of proportion to our own planet.

I agree. The size of the moon based on its distance from the earth is very unusual as iff the moon is a foreign object. I find planets and moons facinating though. Some moons have atmospheres with bodies of water or some other kind of liquid and are like mini planets. Some planets like Mecury are like moons, barren rocky land with a zillion craters and no atmosphere. There are even planets out there that don't revolve around a star, they just drift in darkness throughout the universe.

Edited September 1, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

you want to know something really spooky? The highest masonic degree is 33.

33 is a very important number in freemasonary. Coincidently some very interesting things have happened in this country at 33.33 degree latitude.

-Dallas, Texas, site of the JFK assassination is at 33.33 latitude. The assassination also took place at the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas

-The Roswell crash in New Mexico happened at 33.33 latitude. The impact area near Roswell lays 33

Edited September 8, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

The universe is an amazing place. Here is a cluster of 5 galaxies taken by Hubble. Look at all those stars and each are hundreds of thousands to millions of light years apart. There is SO much about the universe that we dont know simply because its larger than our minds are able to comprehend. That being said there is no way we are the only intelligent life in the universe.

Edited September 10, 2009 by cityboi

[Spartan]

-Mount Hermon in Phoenicia, the first location of extraterrestrial influence with man (where the people of the Ancient Near East believed angels first came to Earth to interact with mankind), lies precisely at 33.33

[cityboi]

Not to be difficult here, but 33.33 by 33.33 is in the "precise" middle of the Mediterranean Sea regardless of whether you measure by decimal degrees or degrees, minutes, seconds. Mount Hermosa is about 2,292 miles (1991 nautical miles) from the equator and the prime meridian.

For the record, I personally believe that there is alien life on Earth today, but you have to fact check these kinds of 'coincidences'. Be skeptical of the skeptics.

ha ha its great to see im not alone here.

read the info on this site

http://hubpages.com/hub/skypeople

"Ancient Egyptian legends tell of the "First Time," which is described as an age when sky gods came down to Earth and raised the land from the mud and water. They supposedly traveled through the air in flying boats and brought laws and wisdom to man through a royal line of pharaohs"

sounds like ETs today giving their wisdom and technology through our government. like in the days of the pharaohs, this knowledge was secret and only reserved for those in power.

"Brazilian tribal natives also believe in gods or travelers from the sky who descended to earth when humans were little more than animals, to instruct them in agriculture, astronomy, and medicine"

Now the above quote is similar to scripture in the Book of Enoch which describes fallen angels (Lucifer's angels) coming to earth to teach mankind agriculture, astrononmy, magic and how to make weapons. This same story is found throughout every ancient culture on earth just like the great flood story. And this transfer of knowledge is going on today. The Bible says as it was in the days of noah so it will be at the coming of the son of man. The Fallen Angels, ancient gods and ETs are all the same beings. We know there was a great flood at some point in the past because all the ancient civilzations including the Bible speak of it. The Bible and all the ancient civilizations speak of beings coming from the sky as well so there has to be a basis of truth somewhere. Like I said all along the phenomena that the ancients witnessed thousands of years ago is the same phenomena we are witnessing today.

"In North America, legend has it that around 720 AD, the struggling Cahokian tribes along the Mississippi river in Illinois were dying of famine and disease. On the brink of collapse, they were supposedly visited by numerous robed beings from the sky who offered them the knowledge and technology needed to save their civilization from extinction. They soon became prosperous and by 1050 AD, had become one of the most powerful cultures on the continent."

The Book of the Giants describes a very different human history from what we are use to reading about. The book of the Giants is part of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Giants which were a genitic mix between humans and angels (ETs) are also mention in the book of Genesis. The Bible calls them the Nephilim. Before the Great Flood (which was long before the rise of the ancient Egyptians), humans and angelic interaction was common according to scripture. In fact it is believed that in most cultures, they are the source of many ancient gods and legends. I do believe specifics are likely inaccurate like 400 foot tall giants. They were likely a little taller than the average human, between 7 and 9 feet tall.

http://www.piney.com/DSSBkGiants.html

The Book of Enoch, which at one time was part of the Holy Bible is interesting reading. This is history before "known" recorded history (thousands of years before the ancient greeks, Egyptians, Mayans, Babylonians and Summerians of which we are taught is the beginning of civilization. But that couldnt be further from the truth.) Its a history unknown to modern man. Enoch was Noah's grandfather.

http://www.piney.com/ApocEnoch1.html

From the Book of Genesis and Enoch:

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Gen 6:5

CHAPTER VI.

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semj

Edited September 10, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Here is text from the Book of Noah. Most Christians believe that God created the great flood to destroy all life as a punishment for the sins of men but based on scripture in the Book of Noah and Enoch, the whole purpose of the flood was to destroy the contaminated bloodline of Adam (the DNA mixture of humans and fallen angels[ETs]) The Bible said Noah was chosen to continue human life he was "perfect in his generation". Now what does that mean? Some would say he was without sin but we know thats not possible because according to the Bible Christ was the only one without sin. What that scripture probably means is that Noah was perfect genetically. He didn't have the DNA from the fallen angels (ETs)

65.1 And in those days, Noah saw the Earth had tilted and that its destruction was near.

65.2 And he set off from there and went to the ends of the Earth and cried out to his great-grandfather Enoch; and Noah said three times in a bitter voice: "Hear me, hear me, hear me!"

65.3 And he said to him: "Tell me, what is it that is being done on the Earth, that the Earth is so afflicted and shaken, lest I be destroyed with it!"

65.4 And immediately there was a great disturbance on the Earth and a voice was heard from Heaven and I fell upon my face.

65.5 And my great-grandfather Enoch came, stood by me, and said to me: "Why did you cry out to me, with such bitter crying and weeping?

65.6 And a command has gone out from the Lord against those who dwell upon the dry ground that this must be their end. For they have learnt all the secrets of the Angels

And I, Enoch, answered and said unto him: 'The Lord will do a new thing on the earth, and this I have already seen in a vision, and make known to thee that in the generation of my father Jared some of the angels of heaven 14 transgressed the word of the Lord. And behold they commit sin and transgress the law, and have united themselves with women and commit sin with them, and have married some of them, 15 and have begot children by them. And they shall produce on the earth giants not according to the spirit, but according to the flesh, and there shall be a great punishment on the earth, and the 16 earth shall be cleansed from all impurity. Yea, there shall come a great destruction over the whole earth, and there shall be a deluge and 17 a great destruction for one year.

In Chapter 106 is a description of a mixed child (angel/human). He has described as having really white skin and white hair. That just so happens to be the description of some Extraterrestrials (the tall whites)

Chapter 106

And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became 2 pregnant by him and bore a son. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house 3 was very bright. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and conversed with the Lord of righteousness. 4 And his father Lamech was afraid of him and 5 fled, and came to his father Methuselah. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance 6 is glorious. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be 7 wrought on the earth

notice how the the Extraterrestrial description below match the description of angels in the book of Noah. ancient Native Americans also spoke of gods of white skin and white hair that came from the skies.

Edited September 10, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Edited September 15, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

look at this hour long presentation by Bob Dean and you will see why we won't be ready for the truth. The truth as he presents it contradicts every thing we have been told and learned about ourselves and why we are here. He reveals for the first time (around the 26 minute mark) copies of NASA photos that he preserved before they were official destroyed. You will see some interesting things. Bob Dean said the Apollo astronaut's lives and lives of their family members were threatened if they ever told what they saw. This explains their odd behavior at the post moon landing press conference and why Neil Armstrong seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. There is a saying....where there is smoke, there is fire.

Edited September 15, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo303.htm

The photo above (cropped and enlarged) was taken by a Costa Rican government mapping plane during an aerial mapping mission in 1971. This UFO photograph is unique for several reasons. 1) The photograph was taken by a high-quality, professional camera. 2) The unidentified object is plainly visible against the uniformly dark background of the lake and appears in sharp focus. 3) The camera was aimed downward and the plane was flying at a known, fixed altitude (10,000 feet), which makes it easy to calculate a maximum size for the object (683 feet).

The plane carried a crew of four; a specialist in aerial photography, a geographer, a topographer, and the pilot. No member of the crew stated that they saw anything unusual during the routine flight. Scientists have deterimined that this was a 3D object in the sky.

What makes this photo credible is that it was taken from a government plane.

Edited October 5, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Bombshell evidence!

Do a little research and you'll discover that the Air Force had a chapter about UFOs in its text book back in the 1960s. you can read it verbatim at this link. Interestingly enough the chapter was pulled from the textbook after it was discovered that it leaked out. Some of the statements in the Air Force text book

the UFO phenomenon appears to have been global in nature for almost 50,000 years

This leaves us with the unpleasant possibility of alien visitors to our planet, or at least of alien controlled UFO's. However, the data are not well correlated, and what questionable data there are suggest the existence of at least three and maybe four differnet groups of aliens (possibly at different states of development). This too is difficult to accept. It implies the existence of intelligent life on a majority of the planets in our solar system, or a surprisingly strong interest in Earth by members of other solar systems.

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/afu.htm

Also here is an interesting hour and 15 minutes documentary

Edited October 5, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Now this is very interesting from NASA's on live feed. Notice the lights that rapidly change direction. Through process of elimination they can only be intelligently controlled craft which means they are extraterrestrial in nature. We know they cant be space junk, ice particles or meteorites because none of those would change direction like that.

Here is another stunning link which shows that Buzz Aldrin said they were "scripted" in what they were to say over public transmission during the Apollo mission. Why would they need to be scripted? to prevent them from saying things that might reveal whats really up there.

Edited October 11, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

UFO recorded on digital camera (video mode) by Chinese student. Whats interesting about this is that the UFO is extremly clear and its on the camera which means its not a photo that was manipulated. On top of that, this saucer shaped object was filmed by at least 9 people. Locals in the area along with the Purple Mountain Observatory, Chinese Academy of Sciences saw the object as well. This happened don the day of an eclipse in July. It seems to be common to see UFOs during eclipses, almost as if its occupants want people to see them because they know people will be looking in the skies.

here is the object in another photo during the actual eclipes. Scientists at the Purple Mountain Observatory in Nanjing, China believe it is a real possibility that this footage of an unidentified flying object is the evidence we have all been waiting for.

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0909/UFO-development.php

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page7927928.php

The scientists have 40 minutes of video footage which could once and for all be the video proof.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ving-alone.html

Edited October 11, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Folks disclosure is SLOWLY happening

Part of the Ecuadorian UFO file release ,their military came forward last year talking about 2 Ufos that were chased by its jet fighters , this is the video with English translation .

In the interview the Commander of the Ecuadorian military states that the USA had told him " They are Extra-terrestrial craft " .

This video includes footage of the object from the on-board FLIR camera .

Also............

VERY INTERESTING DOCUMENTARY!!! Be sure to look at all 8 parts with some real footage! Could there really be an ET connection with ancient Egypt?

YouTube - (1/8) KGB UFO Files

Edited October 15, 2009 by cityboi

[Neo]

Here is a great Tumblr blog with information very similar to that of this thread for those interested: http://aliensaliensaliens.tumblr.com/

[cityboi]

Here is a great Tumblr blog with information very similar to that of this thread for those interested: http://aliensaliensaliens.tumblr.com/

thanks for the link! I look forward to the day when this subject is no longer looked at as fantasy. The truth is we haven't even begun to scratch the surface in our understanding of the universe nor do we know what else or who else is in it. Here is some more evidence.

The Majestic 12 was formed shortly after the Roswell UFO incedent to study the UFO phenomena and the Roswell crash debris. Til this day the military says Majestic 12 never existed yet here is this memo. Its also interesting that almost immediately after the Roswell incedent in July of 1947. The military and defense was reorganized and the Airforce for formed. Why go through such a major government shift? World War II was over and there was no other known threat at the time. Secretary of Defense Forrestal later died under mysterious circumstances. he was admitted in the naval hospital for depression (wonder what depressed him?). The government said he killed himself by jumping from the top floor of the hospital. Others think he was murdered because he was planning to spill the beans about the existence of extraterrestrials. The documents reveal that he was one of the Majestic 12

Bob Lazar claimed he worked at a base near Area 51 called S-4 which back engineered alien craft notice the MAJ on his security card. Bob Lazar also provided his pay stubs from the department of naval intelligence.

Edited October 21, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

here is another key piece of evidence. The document below is known as the Cutler-Twining Memo which was found in the national archive. Its a very important document for two reasons. One its an original memo from 1947 and not a photo copy of the original. That proves the authenticity of the document. Secondly the document mentions MJ-12 (Majestic 12) which the government til this very day says it never existed. What this proves is that MJ 12 was indeed real. And if MJ 12 is real, that means UFOs are real as well. To refresh your memory The Majestic twelve was an alledged group of 12 people from the military and scientific community that was set up by President Truman to study the extraterrestrial craft and bodies from the Roswell crash. So if the document proves MJ-12 was real, why would the government today lie about the group?

the documentary shows how official documents with the names of MJ 12 members along with official flight records to Roswell, New Mexico on July 7, 1947 prove the authenticity of all the MJ 12 documents. July 7, 1947 also happens to be the same date operation began on recovering the UFO and alien bodies.

Edited October 22, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Is UFO disclosure close at hand? There has been a lot of chatter about so called sources saying UFO disclosure may officially happen by the end of 2009 or early 2010. Some have suggested that a number of things are happening to prepare us for this disclosure like the recent discovery of more water on the moon (which NASA already knew of course) and a week or so ago the Vatican held a 5 day conference discussing possible extraterestrial intelligent life and the fact that thier existance would not contradict the Christian faith. Supposedly internal governement sources said President Obama will formally disclose the UFO reality on November 27, 2009 and introduce the world to several very human like ETs. The sources have also said that 2 hours of international TV time has already been booked for the announcement. Some have suggested that Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize was no coincidence and that the prize would give him the credibilty to make such an announcement to world. Honestly I dont think thats how it would be disclosed to the world especially on black friday which is economically important LOL. But it would be nice if this all happens

Even though there currently is no proof of extraterrestrial visitation available, There is clearly enough evidence of secret U.S. black projects involving anti-gravity propulsion. When you have corporations like Boeing making serious public announcements about working on anti-graivty aircraft, something is certainly going on. What has the government been doing all these decades? Publically Stealth technology is the most advanced thing out there. However stealth technology was created in the 1950s and 60s. It wasnt revealed until the first Gulf War in 1990s. So you have to wonder what the government has been doing all these decades since they created stealth technology and the billios and billions of dollars going towards black projects for decades. Some whistle blowers like former Lockheed president and the "father of Stealth" Ben Rich flat out said that the government back-engineered extraterrestrial craft and that we have accomplished all the sci-fi stuff you see on Star Wars or Star Trek. he said we have things in the desert that are 50 to 100 years beyond what we can even imagine.

very interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4IT0-ZzRbA&feature=related

News video link...Vatican holds 5 day conference on the discussion of extraterrestrials

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxEgNKiHcaY

Edited November 22, 2009 by cityboi

[Nashville_maestro]

Is UFO disclosure close at hand? There has been a lot of chatter about so called sources saying UFO disclosure may officially happen by the end of 2009 or early 2010. Some have suggested that a number of things are happening to prepare us for this disclosure like the recent discovery of more water on the moon (which NASA already knew of course) and a week or so ago the Vatican held a 5 day conference discussing possible extraterestrial intelligent life and the fact that thier existance would not contradict the Christian faith. Supposedly internal governement sources said President Obama will formally disclose the UFO reality on November 27, 2009 and introduce the world to several very human like ETs. The sources have also said that 2 hours of international TV time has already been booked for the announcement. Some have suggested that Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize was no coincidence and that the prize would give him the credibilty to make such an announcement to world. Honestly I dont think thats how it would be disclosed to the world especially on black friday which is economically important LOL. But it would be nice if this all happens

Even though there currently is no proof of extraterrestrial visitation available, There is clearly enough evidence of secret U.S. black projects involving anti-gravity propulsion. When you have corporations like Boeing making serious public announcements about working on anti-graivty aircraft, something is certainly going on. What has the government been doing all these decades? Publically Stealth technology is the most advanced thing out there. However stealth technology was created in the 1950s and 60s. It wasnt revealed until the first Gulf War in 1990s. So you have to wonder what the government has been doing all these decades since they created stealth technology and the billios and billions of dollars going towards black projects for decades. Some whistle blowers like former Lockheed president and the "father of Stealth" Ben Rich flat out said that the government back-engineered extraterrestrial craft and that we have accomplished all the sci-fi stuff you see on Star Wars or Star Trek. he said we have things in the desert that are 50 to 100 years beyond what we can even imagine.

very interesting

News video link...Vatican holds 5 day conference on the discussion of extraterrestrials

Fat chance. But if he DOES, that would mean then tomorrow he'll be announcing it! And people from coast to coast will be throwing up their Thanksgiving meal from the shock.

P.S. Thanks for keeping this thread alive Cityboi! It's one of my favorites. Have you listened to the Bob Lazar/Art Bell interview on youtube yet? It's very, very interesting.

Playlist - Bob Lazar Interview on YouTube

Edited November 26, 2009 by Nashville_maestro

[Nashville_maestro]

I've been looking into a lot of Area 51 stuff recently and so I decided to post some of my favorite videos and websites. First: here is Area 51 on Google Maps so yes, it does exist. It's right there next to the Nellis bombing range on the Groom Lake dry lakebed in Nevada, about 100 miles NNW of Las Vegas. How much these images are censored and airbrushed by the government is unknown. Rest assured, they are airbrushed to an extent though.

Fun Videos of Area 51:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=883T2OyNV0M

Here is a good (albeit amateur looking) website that has a lot of cool info on Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Element 115.

BobLazar.com

Supposedly, employees of Area 51 that aren't residing on the on-site dormitories are flown in from Las Vegas on unmarked "Janet Jets" every weekday. Janet aircraft have no text or logos, just a signature red stripe on a white background. When the serial numbers on the tail of the plane are ran through the FAA database, they come up as being registered to the US government.

Area 51 is described as being very compartmentalized, meaning that employees are only allowed information on their specific field of research. The few employees boarding the Janet Jets that you can get to talk, don't have much to say because of this. One employee even said that for "low profile" test flights, they would round up all of the employees in the cafeteria and black out all the windows until the test flight was over. Hmm.....

Now most of Area 51 is for the development of human aircraft. Supposedly only a very tiny and very secret portion of the base is for back engineering alien craft. This area being known as S4 (Sector 4) coined by Bob Lazar. S4 is located in the side of a mountain next to Papoose lakebed about 15 minutes south of Groom Lake. According to Lazar, nine extraterrestrial craft are housed there. He was only allowed access to one though and it became known as the "sport model". Again, according to Lazar, we acquired these craft in an exchange program set up between the government and the extraterrestrials. What was exchanged for them is unknown though it is thought to be human specimens for experiments.

Here is a crazy story I found on BobLazar.com that tells a different tale. (take this with a grain of salt. It's fun to read this stuff and think "what if it were true" though)

"Barry Castillio, Lazar's coworker, told the story of an altercation that took place in 1979 between the aliens and the humans at the base. Apparently, the aliens were given a location at the facility to conduct experiments. It was agreed between the aliens and humans that there would be human military guards securing the immediate perimeter. One day, due to the volatility concerns the aliens had over a certain experiment that they were conducting, they demanded that the guards not be present. The concern was that the bullets in their guns and gunbelts would cause a reaction. The guards refused and proceeded to come closer to the danger area. They were immediately terminated by the aliens, later found by two other guards to be lying dead of identical head wounds.The actions and reactions of these events escalated until 44 military guards were killed. The aliens then killed the scientist they were teaching and left the facility and much of the alien technology behind.The back engineering program began in late 1979 with the remaining hardware and technology. Before the aliens left, they somehow stated that they would return at a date represented by six digits starting with 1625xx. Lazar was given no cross reference for this date to our numbering system and couldn't speculate as to what the date meant. The xx's indicate unknown numbers."

[cityboi]

Thanks for the links. I think one day we'll all realize that many of the things the we believe only exists in science fiction is real. There is a whole lot we don't know. for example, Does the universe go on for ever or does it have boundaries? If it has boundaries, whats beyond the boundaries of the universe. Its mind boggling and our minds can not even begin to comprehend the answer to that question.

Edited December 2, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

Are we being pre conditioned for the "truth"? Many have said that the UFO/extraterrestrial reality is slowly being disclosed to us through leaks and even in movies. One such movie has raised some eyebrows. "The Mission to Mars" which was produced in 2000. Its very interesting that NASA scientists, astronauts and technicians worked with the movie producers. The movie starts out with astronauts landing on the Mars for the first time but the movie takes a startling turn. When the atronauts get to Mars they discover that the face on Mars is real and at the end of the movie they come in contact with an extraterrestrial that looks similar to the "gray" alien. The alien reveals to the astronauts that Mars was once teaming with intelligent life and that an astroid hit Mars and killed all life. Alien survivors left Mars in flying craft and "seeded" life on Earth. The astronauts in the movie then state that they are us and we are them. If the face on Mars is indeed artificial, that would explain why it looks so human. NASA even admits that in the remote past Mars had liquid water on the surface, In fact it had oceans, rivers and lakes like on Earth. Mars also had a denser atmosphere in the past which would have warmed the planet up enough for life. Where there is an atmosphere and water, life is very likely. Scientists also agree that Mars once had an oxygen atmosphere and that the presence of Iron and rust on Mars is evidence of that.

The other reason Mars probably had oxygen is because if it had large bodies of water, then some of the water that was vaporized would have broken down to oxygen and hydrogen. The hydrogen would have escaped the Martian atmosphere while the oxygen would have remained. Those conditions would have made it possible for human type life to exist. To me thats evidence that we are not alone because if other planets in our own solar system once had almost identical conditions as Earth, what does that say about planets in the billions of galaxies out there?

in regards to the movie, What if there was truth to this? Think of what the implications would have on the world religions. Our religions would have to adjust to this reality and think how it would affect our religious customs and holidays such as Easter and Christmas. It can be pretty frightening if you hold strong belief in your faiths and then discover a truth that totally contradicts what you have always believed.

Religion would have to top the list as a reason for the ET cover-up. Its interesting because the Holy Bible was based off of more ancient text from Sumeria which speaks of human kind being created by visitors from above. That concept actually slips into the book of Genesis when its says let "us" create man in "our" image.

in the remote past, Mars had nearly identical conditions to that of Earth today. It would have made it possible for advanced life to create what you see in the photo below.

glass tube...see the reflection?

Edited December 20, 2009 by cityboi

[cityboi]

This is very interesting. looks like the apollo astronauts were "scripted" in what they said publically on the transmissions........Buzz Aldrin said that every word he said on the mission was scripted and he read them on little cards. The reason they were scripted was to keep them from accidently revealing "things" that the saw that NASA sees as national security issues. The rules were simple for the astronauts..they said only what they were told to say.....years later Neil Armstrong said at a press conference that "we were like parrots but we couldn't fly very well". Parrots repeat what they are told.

the official blackbox recordings shown in the youtube clip speaks for itself about what they saw on the moon and outer space. look at both videos. What the astronauts said up there is VERY revealing that they saw UFOs.

some of what is said in the official transcripts from NASA.

- Well, man look at those! They're beautiful!

What's that flasing on the right? Is that the Agenda? See its flash? What? John, do you see what I see?

- yes.

- what the heck is that?

- I don't know

- I see - is this tape recorder still running?

- Yes. I don't know what those are.

- Okay. They're at 12 o-clock; the time on it os 01:39:00 and

they are directly ahead. They appear to be coaltitude and there are

two exremely bright stars - I'd say about 1 degree apart.

THe one on top is slightly to the left of the one on the bottom,

and about a degree below those two there is

a flashing light, a smaller magnitude light which is visible all

the time and which periodically flashes. There went flash, Mark;

flash, Mark!

- Oh, I can't - there's no telling what they are.

- It's really weird. And when I first saw those I could see sunlight;

I could see the earth lit by sunshine down in the lower right

of the windows and the spacecraft nose is still in the light.

And I see these two bright objects deadahead. See those John?

- Yes. THink we ought to report to ground? No,

let's not.

- Those aren't stars. Can't be.

- Why don't you report it? Tell them what you see.

See what they say.

- This is Gemini X, Houston. We have two bright objects up here in our orbital path. I don't think they are stars; they look like we are going

right along with them.

CONFIDENTIAL

the next day in reference to what they saw.

C Roger. Have you been reading our conversations? Over.

CC Yes. We've been following your conversations.

C Okay. Don't forget to censor them before you release them.

ALL transcript documents shown are official source. online versions can be accessed at

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/mission_trans/mission_transcripts.htm

Edited December 24, 2009 by cityboi

[Nashville_maestro]

Hey cityboi are you watching the history channel? They're running a UFO special right now.

[cityboi]

Hey cityboi are you watching the history channel? They're running a UFO special right now.

hey im a little late checking this thread out but yes I did see the UFO special!

BTW here is a 5 part documentary on a massive UFO seen in Illinois. 911 and police tapes are played on the documentary which reveals something REALLY strange was flying around that night. It was described by some as looking like a 2-story house. Its worth looking at.

haha and apparently a UFO with a strange green light was spotted over Michael Jackson's house the day he died.

Edited January 8, 2010 by cityboi