proof of extraterrestrials?

[cityboi]

Nuclear Physicist says vast UFO cover-up is a "Cosmic Watergate"

http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/stanton-friedman-a-scientist-searches-for-the-truth-of-ufos/19503350

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/08/vast-ufo-coverup-stanton-friedman/?test=latestnews

"One of the most credible sightings of a UFO in history is from a series of images taken aboard the Brazilian ship Almirante Saldanha on Jan. 16, 1958. The Saturn-shaped object was witnessed by the ship's crew and several scientists. The UFO approached the island, making a steep turn before flying away quickly. Juscelino Kubitschek, then president of Brazil, confirmed the authenticity of the photos."

Here is an interesting set of CLEAR photos. Based on the position of the sun and the light on the object, it looks real and doesn't look like it was photoshoped. It looks like some sort of a "probe"

http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/recent/Photo411.htm

Here is a strange craft take from a digital camera. What makes this different from most photos is that this image is still on the camera and memory stick so there is no way someone photoshopped this in here.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/recent/photo401.htm

more STUNNING evidence

http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/recent/photo303.htm

Edited June 9, 2010 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

Phobos update:

Phobos, the tiny and bizarre moon of Mars, is continuing to baffle scientists. On March 3, a flyby of Phobos by the Mars Express swept down to within 42 miles of the moon.

From Science Magazine 6/5/2010, some new thoughts on Phobos:

The interior could be as much as 30% empty space. It's mass was calculated by the gravitational perturbances it created in the Mars Express capsule's orbit.

Calculations are now showing that Mars could not have captured Phobos as an asteroid, without breaking the moon to pieces in the process. So therefore it can now be said with confidence that Phobos is not a captured asteroid, as has been previously though.

The density makeup of Phobos is totally different from the makeup of Mars' crust, meaning it was not created by a collision to Mars. So where in the name of Sam did Phobos come from?

Back in 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower was approached with early info about Phobos, and he was utterly convinced it was a space station launched by a Martian civilization. Scientists in the Soviet Union and all over Europe were questioning the possibility as well.

A landing on Phobos might be more exciting than a landing on Mars itself.

[cityboi]

Phobos update:

Phobos, the tiny and bizarre moon of Mars, is continuing to baffle scientists. On March 3, a flyby of Phobos by the Mars Express swept down to within 42 miles of the moon.

From Science Magazine 6/5/2010, some new thoughts on Phobos:

The interior could be as much as 30% empty space. It's mass was calculated by the gravitational perturbances it created in the Mars Express capsule's orbit.

Calculations are now showing that Mars could not have captured Phobos as an asteroid, without breaking the moon to pieces in the process. So therefore it can now be said with confidence that Phobos is not a captured asteroid, as has been previously though.

The density makeup of Phobos is totally different from the makeup of Mars' crust, meaning it was not created by a collision to Mars. So where in the name of Sam did Phobos come from?

Back in 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower was approached with early info about Phobos, and he was utterly convinced it was a space station launched by a Martian civilization. Scientists in the Soviet Union and all over Europe were questioning the possibility as well.

A landing on Phobos might be more exciting than a landing on Mars itself.

There are a number of strange issues with our own moon which baffles scientists. The moon rings like a bell as if its hollow and is too large for its orbit so it didn't evolve from from excess earth debris. The moon is also too large to get hooked into earth's orbit without it impacting the earth so how our moon got there is also a mystery. There is a reason we don't go to the moon and it has nothing to do with the cost. NASA's shuttle program is far more expensive than a mission to the moon and its odd that we have an international space station instead of setting up base on the moon.

Speaking of NASA here is a quote from former astronaut John Glenn

"Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things we didn't want to say and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, were you alone out there? We never gave the real answer, and yet we see things out there, strange things, but we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything. The bosses were really afraid of this, they were afraid of the War of the Worlds type stuff, and about panic in the streets. So we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies, and some of them are pretty close to being the truth."

Whats interesting to note is that many of the apollo astronauts suffered from depression, alcoholism after their mission. Look at the post press conference (on youtube) from the first moon landing and notice the reaction of Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. They clearly seemed shakened up by something.

Edited June 9, 2010 by cityboi

[hagetaka]

I don't have any newsworthy stuff to post here, but I would be seriously scared of having a chance to see one.

[cityboi]

I don't have any newsworthy stuff to post here, but I would be seriously scared of having a chance to see one.

The point you make is a big reason for a cover-up. The release of that information WOULD cause panic on so many different levels and coming face to face with a little grey guy with huge black eyes would scare the bejesus out of anyone. Something is going on. There is a saying....where there is smoke there is fire.

[cityboi]

Jim Goodall speaks about secret black projects out at Groom Lake (AKA Area 51). Some of those projects are just advanced fighters that go as fast as 10,000 miles per hour. One person he interviewed that worked at an installation at Groom Lake was asked if he believed In UFOs and he said absolutely they exist. Another person said there are projects that wont be declassified until about 2025 that would make George Lucas envious. My guess is that our government has made advance scientific breakthroughs in aviation (anti-gravity propulsion) and many of the UFO sighting are advance craft or AVRs (alien reproduction vehicles) that use this technology. Boeing has already made public statements that they are researching into anti-gravity propulsion. Jim Goodall was good friends with former Lockheed Vice President Ben Rich who stated shortly before he died that if you've seen in in star wars or star trek, we've done it. Ben Rich also said UFOs are indeed real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEo12tUBwtg

Edited June 10, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

I kinda thought this was interesting. The ancient Egyptians believed that the "gods" that came down from the sky were from the constellation of Orion. Its interesting to note that the Giza Pyramids were arranged on the ground to match the 3 stars of Orion's Belt as it appeared in the sky in 10,500 BC. There seems to be a NASA link to all this. "Ironically" NASA is naming its new spacecraft designed to go to the moon called "Orion" and they created a patch which shows the 3 stars of Orion. I wonder why? The patch itself is shaped like a "triangle or a pyramid from a profile view" and it shows a red streak of light coming from the Orion stars to earth. Could there be a hidden message in that patch and does NASA know something about the Egyptians that we don't know about? Oddly enough it has been documented that NASA has been involved with excavations in Egypt. You can only guess why a space agency is showing interest in whats under the sands in Egypt. There is an interesting statement made by one of NASA's foremost scientists (Dr. Farouk El Baz). He said "not every discovery has been announced to the public" Keeping scientific information secret to prevent upsetting religious and other established views in nothing new. During renaissance times the Catholic Church kept scientific information secret (common knowledge today) to prevent upsetting the religious views of the time. Its odd that during the moon missions the astronauts used countless "code names" to describe what they were seeing but there may have been some slip ups when one astronaut clearly said "dome" on the open channel. Why is it that most of the Apollo astronauts can't seem to remember a lot in terms of what they did on the moon? and why did most leave NASA in their prime right after the moon missions? Most have also suffered from depression after the missions and had problems with alcohol. Why did the original Apollo astronauts act strangely as if they were at a funeral during the post press conference a month after the first moon landing? And finally, Why does NASA keep Neil Armstrong tucked away? He rarely speaks at public events and he DOES NOT do interviews.

One of the Apollo moon transmissions that have publicly been documented....

"Duke: Beyond the domes, the structure goes almost into the ravine that I described and one goes to the top. In the northeast wall of the ravine you can't see the delineation. To the northeast there are tunnels, to the north they are dipping east to about 30 degrees."

Another strange transmission on the moon when an astronaut says he sees tracks. Mission Control immediately speaks in code and says "go to Bravo" which means go to secret transmission channel.

"Schmidtt: I see tracks - running right up the wall of the crater.

Mission Control (Gene Cernan): Your photopath runs directly between Pierce and Pease. Pierce Brava, go to Bravo, Whiskey, Whiskey, Romeo."

During the transmission of the Moon landing of Armstrong and Aldrin, two minutes of silence occurred in which the image and sound were interrupted. NASA insisted that this problem was the result of one of the television cameras which had overheated, thus interfering with the reception. Some time after the historic Moon landing, Christopher Craft, director of the NASA base in Houston, made some surprising comments when he left NASA.

The contents of these comments, which is included in the conversations below, has been corroborated by hundreds of amateur radio operators who had connected their stations to the same frequency through which the astronauts transmitted. During the two minute interruption which was not as it seemed, NASA, Armstrong and Aldrin with Cape Kennedy, censored both image and sound. 'I say that there were other spaceships.'

Here is reproduced completely the dialogue between the astronauts and Houston:

Armstrong & Aldrin: Those are giant things. No, no, no - this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this!

Houston (Christopher Craft): What ... what ... what? What the hell is happening? What's wrong with you?

Armstrong & Aldrin: They're here under the surface.

Houston: What's there? (muffled noise) Emission interrupted; interference control calling 'Apollo 11'.

Armstrong & Aldrin: We saw some visitors. They were here for a while, observing the instruments.

Houston: Repeat your last information!

Armstrong & Aldrin: I say that there were other spaceships. They're lined up in the other side of the crater!

Houston: Repeat, repeat!

Armstrong & Aldrin: Let us sound this orbita ... in 625 to 5 ... Automatic relay connected ... My hands are shaking so badly I can't do anything. Film it? God, if these damned cameras have picked up anything - what then?

Houston: Have you picked up anything?

Armstrong & Aldrin: I didn't have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film

Houston: Control, control here. Are you on your way? What is the uproar with the UFOs over?

Armstrong & Aldrin: They've landed here. There they are and they're watching us.

Houston: The mirrors, the mirrors - have you set them up?

Armstrong & Aldrin: Yes, they're in the right place. But whoever made those spaceships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.

Finally we have that odd press conference a month later

http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bflb3OqOTg

ALSO......here is a declassified Canadian government document!

Another declassified document

Is that a structure next to the big black crater on the moon? Very unlikely the at you'll see a rectangular crater like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YisymIbSmc

Edited June 30, 2010 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

A UFO flew over China's Zhejiang Airport on July 7, 2010 at 9 PM and forced the airport to reroute flights. The government plans to release info on Friday, hinting the UFO was of military origin.

Here is a link to pics of the UFO. The photographs are quite dazzling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-h7DaJCqx4

[cityboi]

very interesting...i'm must say that China UFO doesn't look conventional. What the hell is that bright light shining from the bottom? and the thing appears to be HUGE.

Here is an interesting link I found. Several years ago a film maker wanted to make a trilogy movie about the Anunnaki. According to ancient Sumerian text, the Anunnaki where beings that came to earth and created mankind. We see a some what similar story in the Christian Bible where "angels" came from the skies and mated with earth women creating a mixed offspring called the "Nephilim"

Jon Gress was suppose to produce the film based on the Anunnaki story but the project was mysteriously shut down with no explanation and almost all traces of pre production footage were taken off the internet. Some are already pointing out the red flags that there is some kind of conspiracy to keep the public masses from seeing a movie covering this topic. For one its controversial in that instead of one God creating man, beings from space created mankind.....but even in the Book of Genenis it says

"and God said let US created man OUR image" Thats plural meaning more than one creator. Why have Christians overlooked that verse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EesLEZM41vs

Edited July 22, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

There is more life in the universe than we could ever imagine. NASA has detected 150 earth sized planets and now scientists estimate that the overall number of planets in our own galaxy alone with conditions that we experience here on earth is around 100 million planets. The universe is made of the same elements and stars and planets form the same way all over the universe. So its not a stretch to think life and even intelligent humanoid life has evolved all over the universe. But because the universe is SO VAST and planets and stars are so far apart, is difficult to find the scientific evidence unless evidence of visitation has been discovered. While scientific proof of alien visitation seems to escape us, there is evidence everywhere in our history that at the very least points to past visitation.

But there have been a few occurrences that may prove intelligent life with radio signal technology is out there. SETI has recorded several signals from other star systems that have the signature of artificial intelligence yet such information strangely never made national headlines.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/27/sasselov.earth.planets/index.html?hpt=T2

Edited July 27, 2010 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

July 30, 2010. This might be a date that could live in ET infamy.

SETI scientists have just released an article in Earth and Planetary Science Letters saying certain rock formations on Mars look like ancient burial formations seen in Australia. The article goes into detail, and is a short read.

Here's the link:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/40087/

[cityboi]

July 30, 2010. This might be a date that could live in ET infamy.

SETI scientists have just released an article in Earth and Planetary Science Letters saying certain rock formations on Mars look like ancient burial formations seen in Australia. The article goes into detail, and is a short read.

Here's the link:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/40087/

Thanks for the link! I think its important to note that at some point in Mars's past the conditions there were jut like earth today. The red iron on the surface is evidence that the atmosphere was oxygen like on Earth and there is geographic evidence Mars had oceans, lakes and rivers. I believe Mars was a mirror image of earth in its past and maybe that face on mars was built by beings that look like humans. If thats the case we may have to question our own origins and how we actually got here. Its a part of our past that we have forgotten. But the Mars of today is a warning to us that Earth may end up like Mars in some point of the future. Maybe a future intelligent race will evolve on another planet in our solar system in another 100 million years or so and they will see a dead earth with strange anomolies on it that resemble artifical structures

Edited July 31, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

The U.K, just declassified and released more UFO Files. Some of the files provide evidence that Winston Churchill ordered a UFO cover up to prevent mass panic.

These are Winston Churchill's exact words recorded in one of the declassified documents referring to a UFO encounter

"This event should be immediately classified since it would create mass panic amongst the general population and destroy one's belief in the Church."

This is the most striking declassified UFO document to date because a government official is acknowledging the existence of UFOs. As I stated in the past, this truth seems to contradict religious beliefs and this appears to be the main reason for the UFO cover-up world-wide among governments. The truth may indeed lead to mass hysteria if people don't know what to believe. Just maybe in the case of UFOs, ignorance is bliss and there may be things we don't want to know like our origins, who we really are and why we are here. Then again the truth could lead to world peace if no one is fighting over religion any more.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20012799-503543.html?tag=cbsnewsTwoColLowerPromoArea;morenews

Files released today.

Edited August 5, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

ancient Egyptian Papyrus depicts "Ship of Ra" landing on Sphinx ...Guess what...Its not a boat and its disc shaped! just further evidence that the ancient gods were actually extraterrestrial visitors.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-478950

according to the ancient papyrus, this is "Ra's" celestial ship

another ancient Egyptian drawing shows this ship landing on the back of the Sphinx. What's interesting is that the back of the real Sphinx is oddly flat as if something is suppose to go on the back. It really does look like a landing site.

the papyrus says this is the "arrival of Ra" in his celestial ship and that he lands on the back of the Sphinx...you can even see the classic saucer landing gear in this one

to make a comparison, here is the description of "ET's" celestial ship

Edited August 10, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

New startling DNA evidence may prove that the "star child skull" are remains of a hybrid human/alien. Its interesting also because it parallels with stories in the Bible about fallen angels creating a mixed offspring with human women called the "Nephilim".

normal human skull compared to the "star child skull"

Makes you wonder how many more revealing archaeological finds are being supressed. Clearly there are profound reasons to suppress such finds and the reason always seem to be about religion. A former NASA scientist acknowledged that NASA found very ancient artificial structures on Mars, including the face dating back hundreds of thousands of years ago. This scientist said if the finds on Mars were released to the public, it would "shatter the foundations of all religions on earth". The face on Mars appears to be a modern day human face so if it is indeed an artificial human face, then you'd have to question the origins of human beings considering that modern day human beings didnt exist on earth hundreds of thousands of years ago.

Edited August 22, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

I think UFO disclosure may come when the vast majority of the world population accepts the existence of UFOs and they will be more prepared to handle the truth.

A new national poll found that 72 percent of Americans believe the government is not telling the public everything it knows about UFO activity, and 68 percent think the government knows more about extraterrestrial life than it is letting on. While most people don't want to let on that they believe in UFOs, the majority of Americans believe ET has landed. There is a reason for this. in every UFO case, the government's explanation doesnt add up. Its been more than 60 years since the Roswell incident and the government has told 3 different stories in what happened at Roswell in July of 1947 and NONE of the explanations add up. Why would the government continue to lie about something that happened 63 years ago? and why was there such a dramatic change in the structure of the U.S. government IMMEDIATELY after July 1947? The war was over... The Air Force started in September of 1947. The Secretary of Defense position was put in place in September of 1947. There were also other major changes in the structure of the U.S. government in August of 1947 under the Truman administration. Something happened in July of 1947 that triggered all of this. We know the event was big because it is documented in public record that a number of top U.S. generals took flights to Roswell, NM around July 8, 1947, right after the crash was reported. Today the government says it was nothing more that top secret project Mogul. But if a project mogul balloon did crash there, top generals would not have flown to Roswell just to see the wreckage of a top secret balloon. There was nothing secret about the balloon itself, only the mission and if the mission were so top secret, the Army would not draw attention to it by sending a number of generals to Roswell, NM. Also Mogul balloons had dropped in populated areas and were recovered by average civilians on several occasions yet for some reason a mogul crash at Roswell drew a lot of attention from the U.S. Army. Sometimes Mogul balloons were left to rot. They had reward notices and questionnaires from New York University attached to them were they to be recovered by civilians.. The great lengths to which the military went to silence the civilian witnesses as well as their own men is entirely inconsistent with the recovery of a Mogul balloon considering the materials were unclassified and completely mundane, it had been publicized in the newspaper. It just doesn't add up. When witness described bodies, the government said they were just test dummies even though test dummies weren't dropped til 1953. Another known fact that is over looked is that its on public record that it took 4 planes to haul the debris. It does not take 4 planes to haul away debris from a Mogul balloon. Another odd thing is that Project Mogul "mission" was declassified in the 1970s with no mention of a crash in Roswell back in 1947 and after it was declassified it took 25 years (1994) for the government to say the crash at Roswell was a Mogul balloon despite the fact that Mogul balloons crashed all the time. Keep in mind all through the 1980s the government was asked about what crashed in Roswell and back then the government said it was a Kite.....why didn't they fess up in the 1980s when Project Mogul was declassified? CLEARY the government is still lying and you have to ask your self what could have crashed on a ranch is Roswell, NM that is so secret, its still classified in 2010? There was nothing in the Army's arsenal or secret war mission in 1947 that would lead to that event being classified today.

Why would all branches of the government keep all this secret? the answer may lay in the Brookings report for NASA which made recommendations.

excerpts from the Brookings Report written for NASA.

"While face-to-face meetings with it (extraterrestrial life) will not occur within the next 20 years; artifacts left at some point in time by these life forms might possibly be discovered through our space activities on the moon, Mars, or Venus." - The Implications of a Discovery of Extraterrestrial,

(1)

"Evidences of its existence might also be found in artifacts left on the moon or other planets. The consequences for attitudes and values are unpredictable, but would vary profoundly in different cultures and between groups within complex societies; a crucial factor would be the nature of the communication between us and the other beings. Whether or not earth would be inspired to an all-out space effort by such a discovery is moot: societies sure of their own place in the universe have disintegrated when confronted by a superior society, and others have survived even though changed. Clearly, the better we can come to understand the factors involved in responding to such crises the better prepared we may be

....."Continuing studies to determine emotional and intellectual understanding, and attitudes - and successive alterations of them if any - regarding the possibility and consequences of discovering intelligent extraterrestrial life.

Historical and empirical studies of the behaviour of peoples and their leaders when confronted with dramatic and unfamiliar events or social pressures. Such studies might help to provide programs for meeting and adjusting to the implications of such a discovery. Questions one might wish to answer by such studies would include: How might such information, under what circumstances, be presented or withheld from the public and for what ends? What would be the role of the discovering scientists and other decision makers regarding release of the fact of discovery?".....

While not specifically recommending a cover-up of evidence of extraterrestrial life, the report DOES suggest that contact with intelligent extraterrestrial life (or strong evidence of its reality) could have a disruptive effect on human societies. Moreover, it does mention the possibility that leadership might wish to withhold evidence of extraterrestrial life from the public under some conditions. So if NASA followed the advice from the Brookings Report, they may not tells us about structures or a face on Mars or ancient structures on the back side of the moon which could turn human history and the world religions upside down. If you are not prepared for it, this can be some pretty scary stuff. I think once we get the answer to the UFO question, we will know who we are and why we are here. I have a feeling its all connected.

Martian anomalies that suspiciously look like artificial construction.

oddly enough, this comic book was published in 1958, almost 20 years before NASA "officially" discovers the face on mars.

strange object that looks like ruins nicknamed "the castle" stands straight up on the moon 7 miles high. Clearly its not a mountain and there are no other large nearby hills or other tall natural geographic land mass in the vicinity. There is NO natural explanation for this object. While a hand full of photos have been released to the public, the good stuff is deep with in the vaults of NASA. Its almost as if a few photos were released on purpose just to see how the public would react.

The picture below originally had a totally black sky. (isnt it odd how you can't see any stars in most of the apollo photos?) This picture is one of many that have been shown by Richard C. Hoagland, a former NASA Consultant. It has been overexposed to try to pick up any possible structure in the black sky. As you can see there is what seems to be a broken? dome, and in the surrounding portions of the sky, we see a lot of what seems to be junk or noise in the photo. Hoagland through a number of photographs, shows that this detail found in the sky is common among many of the moon photos. You will see close-ups of "towers and other structures" on the Moon. No wonder the Apollo astronauts acted very odd (almost scared) at the post news conference in 1969. Then years later in a speech Neil Armstrong makes an odd comment about discoveries and "removing truth's protective layers".

I don't know what to make of the next picture but its one of NASA's moon photos that "did not come out" The photo was totally black. Nevertheless the photo has been archived and when it was overexposed, we see what looks like a pyramid....but this could be anything. It is interesting that the degree of the angle of the Great Pyramid seems to be identical to the degree angle of the anomaly in the photo..coincidence?

What is this "structure" on the edge of a crater on the moon that NASA try to blur out? Remember this was long before they had the advanced "photo shop" programs. Whats interesting about this crater is that it was photographed again at another time and at another angle and its still blurred. That proves the blurring was intentional and not done because of lost pixel data.

Edited August 25, 2010 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

^^ the US government is so corrupt, and full of lies that finding out the truth from them is impossible. These hidden NASA photos proves the truth is being suppressed. The suppression of this extremely important information is an outrage.

[cityboi]

^^ the US government is so corrupt, and full of lies that finding out the truth from them is impossible. These hidden NASA photos proves the truth is being suppressed. The suppression of this extremely important information is an outrage.

When lies are mixed in with truth its always hard to get of the bottom of things but there seems to be cooporation among other countries to keep this quiet as well. I think the truth is that earth shaking that its in the interest of all nations to keep quiet. But when the Vatican officially comes out and say its ok to believe in ET, you know something is going on.

Here is another image of what appears to b a huge dome over a crater. You can tell the way light reflects off of what appears to be a glassy surface. It is interesting because Apollo 16 atronauts made references to "domes" when talking to mission control. Skeptics say dome was just a code word for objects of natural features.

This dont look natural! But I guess like the face on Mars, this is a trick of light....

also here is an interesting documentary clip discussing the face on mars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EYA7BBiHI8

Edited August 25, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

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the picture on the left shows the first Viking image from 1976. Another image was taken in 1976 as well from another angle and the face was still clearly visible.....the photo on the right shows the image of the face that NASA released in July 2010. The face magically disappears thanks to photoshop! They didnt have photoshop in 1976. Its interestig because over the years when NASA released more images of the face it gradually looked less and less like a face, now its gone all together!!.....Isnt it odd how NASA can release so many images of the face (from the same angle btw) and they all look different? There must have been some serious plate techtonics going on over the past 30 years, either that or NASA is altering the images. Which is more likely?

another shot taken in 1976 from another angle (it still looks the same from another angle so its not a trick of light)

the edges on the nearby "pyramids" look straight and project shadows of a pefect pyramids.

Edited August 27, 2010 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

Discussion of the moon always begs the question, why haven't we been back in 40 years? When I say "we" I am referring to the USA.

But there are other space programs around the world too. Why hasn't the European Space Agency gone to the moon? They have sent out some pretty impressive missions.....why none to the moon?

Russia and Japan also have space programs, but alas no Russian nor Japanese people have been sent to the moon.

The Obama Administration's plans for space exploration has forgone the moon

We've discussed it here on this forum before, but it continues to eat at me--- has man been warned off the moon? The moon makes all the sense in the world as a base for space exploration. There's no reason that we shouldn't already have it colonized. It just doesn't make sense.

When something doesn't make sense, it most likely isn't true.

Edited August 27, 2010 by Charlotteman

[cityboi]

Discussion of the moon always begs the question, why haven't we been back in 40 years? When I say "we" I am referring to the USA.

But there are other space programs around the world too. Why hasn't the European Space Agency gone to the moon? They have sent out some pretty impressive missions.....why none to the moon?

Russia and Japan also have space programs, but alas no Russian nor Japanese people have been sent to the moon.

The Obama Administration's plans for space exploration has forgone the moon

We've discussed it here on this forum before, but it continues to eat at me--- has man been warned off the moon? The moon makes all the sense in the world as a base for space exploration. There's no reason that we shouldn't already have it colonized. It just doesn't make sense.

When something doesn't make sense, it most likely isn't true.

A former NASA administrator in communications DID indeed say we were "warned of the moon" (by ET) That explains we have not gone back and it explains why other countries have not gone. The moon would make the perfect space station. Instead of building a space station on the moon, we build an artificial one in earth's orbit..doesnt make sense to me. The moon is the perfect testing ground for future explorations to places like Mars yet some in the circles of NASA think we shouldn't go to the moon but focus on Mars. But it seems to me that "ET" may already be using the moon as a base. How the moon got there is strange to begin with. The moon rocks are older than earth and the moon is too large for its orbit for it to have gradually formed in earth's orbit. I think the more we learn the truth, the stranger it gets. The evidence on Mars points toward humans being there in its remote past. The earth is billions of years old and that plently of time for human civilization to rise and fall many times. Evidence of past advanced human technology would have been wiped out a long time ago. History repeats itself and one day human civilization and evidence of our technology will be gone as well. There may be a few survivors but in another 200,000 plus years Man may have to start over again not knowing what came before them. That future generation will see our American flag and our space vehicles there just as we are seeing ancient objects on the moon today. We know modern day humans have been on earth for millions of years because they are finding humans remains in the same ground layers as dinosaur fossils.

But another reason we havent gone back is because our camera equipment is more advanced than what we had in 1969. It would be more difficult to hide things, particularly when it comes to live video feed of man walking on the moon. But when americans saw man walk on the moon they saw a fuzzy picture and they had better cameras they could have used in the late 1960s. That raises a number of red flags as to why they didnt use more advanced camera equipment.

BTW NASA killed ALL live video feed in space after an incident where an object was headed towards earth and darted a way at a rapid speed after a flash light and something shot at the object. But before the object darts a way it stops in mid space.

This is footage of the incident that people saw live...after this there was no more live NASA footage which is odd. Skeptics say the light that flashed was a blast from the shuttle that cause space debris to be ejected out towards space. But how come there is only one object that darts a way and if it were a shuttle blast, the camera would be shaking. Skeptics also cant explain the streak headed towards the object and why the object slowed down before it darted a way. There is nothing in space that would cause it to slow down unless its artificially controlled. But no matter how much evidence like this people see, it still goes over their heads. It just blows my mind a way how people can ignore evidence like this staring them in the face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmzgZUGkF60

Edited August 28, 2010 by cityboi

[cityboi]

This is a very interesting documentary which show people from all areas of the governments saying that UFOs are real and that they are of extraterrestrial origin. Evidence is also shown on the documentary. Its divided up into 8 parts on youtube so you'll have to search for each part on the sidebar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u7Xwq-PvFA

[cityboi]

new evidence has come to light in the case of the "Battle of Los Angeles" in 1942. In 1942 an unidentified flying object flew across the skies in Los Angeles one night and the army fired thousands of rounds upon the object and none of the rounds damaged or brought the object down. Thats odd in and of itself. The LA Times took a photo of the object with Army spot lights shining on it. Its clearly glowing and is saucer shaped. The Battle of Los Angeles is one of two cases in American history which has the most evidence of the existence of UFOs. The other case happened in 1952 when a number of UFOs flew over the Capitol Building in Washington DC.

The Army stated that the object in the Los Angeles skies was a weather balloon which doesn't make sense because how can you fired thousands of rounds (direct hits as well) and not bring a weather balloon down? why even fire at a weather balloon? It seems that the weather balloon story was a common cover story the army used in the 1940s. Roswell comes to mind. Oddly the "LA Raid" story immediately went away. It seems that the last president to be briefed on UFOs was John F Kennedy. After JFK they stopped telling presidents.

Los Angeles Times photos

new evidence

http://www.ufocasebook.com/pdf/mufonbattleofla.pdf

TOP SECRET

Top Secret gm 25

February 27, 1942

THE WHITE HOUSE

WASHINGTON

February 27, 1942

MEMORANDUM FOR

CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE ARMY

I have considered the disposition of the material in possession of the Army

that may be of great significance toward the development of a super weapon of war. I

disagree with the argument that such information should be shared with our ally the

Soviet Union. Consultation with Dr. Bush and other scientists on the issue of finding

practical uses for the atomic secrets learned from study of celestial devices precludes any

further discussion and I therefor authorize Dr. Bush to proceed with the project without

further delay. This information is vital to the nation's superiority and must remain

within the confines of state secrets. Any further discussion on the matter will be

restricted to General Donovan, Dr. Bush, the Secretary of War and yourself. The

challenge our nation faces is daunting and perilous in this undertaking and I have

committed the resources of the government towards that end. You have my assurance

that when circumstances are favorable and we are victorious, the Army will have the

fruits of research in exploring further applications of this new wonder.

You may speak to me about this if the above is not wholly clear.

F.D.R.

Los Angeles Times photos

Edited September 14, 2010 by cityboi

[Charlotteman]

The Battle of Los Angeles proves how easily history is lost (or suppressed). It happened 60 some years ago, and very very few people are even aware of it.

When an air born object is fired upon by thousands of rounds of munitions, many of which achieved direct hits, it comes down. Period.

The only two exceptions I can think of: the object was so technologically advanced that being bombarded with munitions was like being hit by a housefly (alien spacecraft) or the craft could have been the earliest experiments of hologram technology done by regular humans.

I've wracked my brain over the years trying to think of other possibilities, and I keep returning to these two explanations of what the craft was. If anyone can think of other possibilities I would totally love to hear them. This is a mystery that continues to intrigue.

[cityboi]

The Battle of Los Angeles proves how easily history is lost (or suppressed). It happened 60 some years ago, and very very few people are even aware of it.

When an air born object is fired upon by thousands of rounds of munitions, many of which achieved direct hits, it comes down. Period.

The only two exceptions I can think of: the object was so technologically advanced that being bombarded with munitions was like being hit by a housefly (alien spacecraft) or the craft could have been the earliest experiments of hologram technology done by regular humans.

I've wracked my brain over the years trying to think of other possibilities, and I keep returning to these two explanations of what the craft was. If anyone can think of other possibilities I would totally love to hear them. This is a mystery that continues to intrigue.

Those are really THE ONLY two explanations for what it was. A hologram or an alien space craft. Thousands of rounds of ammo with direct hits and it wouldn't come down?! Are you kidding me? And its hard to imagine the military or any human having that kind of 3D hologram technology back in 1942. If it was available then, it would have been commercialized decades ago. Its 2010 and we are just now beginning to make some advances in hologram technology. So when you cancel that out, you are left with an advanced craft that had "shields" like in Star Trek. No way did our military have that capability back in 1942, we didn't even have computers. So if it wasn't man made there is only one other explanation. There is more strong evidence of an extraterrestrial encounter in this case than in the Roswell incident 5 years later. We have a legitimate photo taken by the LA Times that backs up the story of the Army firing thousands of shots at an object shaped like a disc. Newspaper articles verify that that thousands of rounds were fired upon the object. Its clearly saucer shaped and if it had been a balloon or a blimp, it would have been shot down for sure! The object must have been hovering there for a long time. Its just so mind boggling that people over look such strong evidence and ignore it as if it didn't happen. We treat this like a science fiction story but the fact is all this is real. This story wasn't printed in the tabloids, it was printed in the LA Times and it happened. When I look at the LA Times photo, It shows a lot of spot lights shining on the object but the object appears to be glowing itself because its just as bright as the rounds exploding around the craft.

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I did come accross an old CNN article that mentions boeing working on anti-gravity propulsion. The article mentions that the U.S. government may have had the technology for years and that fits with all the stories about "back engineering" extraterrestrial craft..

"GRASP," or Gravity Research for Advanced Space Propulsion, was only recently reported in Jane's Defence Weekly, but the U.S. military may have had the technology for years.

The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), based in Nevada, say that mysterious U.S. military craft using this kind of technology have been skirting the skies since the 1980s.

And NIDS is now calling for the military to unveil its secrets for commercial benefit.

folks whether you believe its extraterrestrial or not, there is strong evidence that our U.S. government has made major breakthroughs in aviation and that we do possess anti-gravity propulsion technology. (the greatest breakthrough in flight since the Wright Brothers)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/09/05/wow.tech.black.world/index.html

The black triangle anti-gravity UFOs are man made craft

Supposedly one of these secret anti-gravity craft is visible on a google earth shot. Whatever it is, it is there because its verified on the link below. The question is what is it? Some sort of craft? or controlled fires burning on the ground?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=30°30%2741%22S,+115°22%2756%22E&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.490703,79.101563&ie=UTF8&ll=-30.510457,115.386164&spn=0.013255,0.019312&t=h&z=16

also here is that over exposed image again of the "pyramid" taken on the surface of the moon and this is on NASA's website. The angle matches the angle of the great pyramid in Giza perfectly! NASA geologist Farouk El Baz did say that "not all discoveries made on the moon have been made public". Also isnt it odd he just happens to be an Egyptian scientist that played a major role in the lunar landings?

This is very interesting!

Weird Apollo transcripts!!

During James Lovell's flight on Gemini 7 (Keep in mind Bogey was code for UFO)

Lovell:BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.Cad

Capcom:This is Houston. Say again 7.

Lovell: SAID WE HAVE A BOGEY AT

10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?

Lovell:WE HAVE SEVERAL...ACTUAL SIGHTINGS.

Capcom: ...Estimated distance or size?

Lovell: WE ALSO HAVE THE BOOSTER IN SIGHT.

more here!

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html

former astronaut, Dr Brian O'Leary quote

"For nearly fifty years, the secrecy apparatus within the United States government has kept from the public UFO and alien information, we have contact with alien cultures'. 'the suppression of UFO and other extraterrestrial intelligence information for at least forty-seven years, is probably being orchestrated by an elite band of men in the CIA,NSA,NSS,DIA and their like. This small group appears able to keep these already hard-to-believe secrets very well"

Edited September 14, 2010 by cityboi