Church Street Station

[VistaLakes01]

if so, that is a really odd place for Hamburger Mary's. all the other ones out here on the west coast are the the gaytto and even some of those haven't been able to survive. i just don't see the tourists and mainstream suburbanites who will be visiting church st. feeling comfortable having dinner during drag queen bingo.

that being said, orlando's gay scene is so sporadic right now that bring a hamburger mary's in is a great idea. but there is no way a gay neighborhood right downtown is going to happen!

Didn't the Hamburger Mary's in Ft. Lauderdale just close? If one can't survive in Wilton Manors the church st. location doesn't make sense. Unless the city is relying on the gays to revitalize Parramore.

[uncreativeusername]

Didn't the Hamburger Mary's in Ft. Lauderdale just close? If one can't survive in Wilton Manors the church st. location doesn't make sense. Unless the city is relying on the gays to revitalize Parramore.

You know, I've wondered why it hasn't happened already, with P-House where it is on OBT. Parramore's begging for gayntrification....

[RedStar25]

ummm hello.... ewwwwwwwwwwww

And typically Gayborhoods nestle into areas with homes begging to be restored. Parramore dosnt have that.

Edited January 5, 2008 by RedStar25

[WeNeed2Progress]

ummm hello.... ewwwwwwwwwwww

And typically Gayborhoods nestle into areas with homes begging to be restored. Parramore dosnt have that.

What gay wouldn't love to restore an old crack house? C'mon. "Seize the day. Parramore to gay!"

[RedStar25]

Parramore needs to be razed to the ground and compleatly started over. The odd jumble of industrail, commercial, residential, charitable organizations, railroad tracts, and a skyrocketing crime rate, make it one incredibly unatractive area for investors.

To quote a friend of mine "What this rats nest needs is a good fire."

Edited January 5, 2008 by RedStar25

[sunshine]

actually rock lake neighbourhood behind phouse has a lot of gays

[UPSDAN]

The Hilton is in on the MPB Agenda for February...

[bic]

The Hilton is in on the MPB Agenda for February...

...as well as 800 North Orange. Details on the Hilton hotel:

333-room hotel

790 parking spaces

11-story parking podium

25-stories tall

[bulldogger]

Does that make it 25 total stories or 14 stories on top of the 11 story parking podium?

Why don't we just forgo the parking pedestals for all these developments and make the world's tallest parking garage in Orlando? Maybe we can then get a new tallest building.

[JFW657]

Does that make it 25 total stories or 14 stories on top of the 11 story parking podium?

According to the rendering it's 25 stories & the parking deck looks to be behind the tower on the east side.

[JRS1]

I walked from the Citrus Bowl to DT along Church St. after Big Blue punked my boys.

it is all industrial, hence why it wasn't like a scene from Shaun of the Dead walking back (with a big group, of course). if it was residential like Washington St., forget it.

so, b/c it is industrial mainly, I can see how it can be transformed with the influx of new business to spruce up the corridor.

I still don't get the new drainage ditches they built just west of CityView.

[bulldogger]

I still don't get the new drainage ditches they built just west of CityView.

You mean the park? (with the clock)

[prahaboheme]

Another sexy parking pedestal fronting I-4.

[cwetteland]

Another sexy parking pedestal fronting I-4.

... or you could have a massive parking lot.

[prahaboheme]

... or you could have a massive parking lot.

...the whole "its better than a parking lot" argument.

[bic]

Another sexy parking pedestal fronting I-4.

Based on the last rendering that was posted, I think the parking pedestal will be situated on the east side of the building, facing away from I-4. You should be able to catch a glimpse of it as you come from the north or south but it's not going to be anywhere near as prominent as 55 West's garage.

[cwetteland]

...the whole "its better than a parking lot" argument.

[prahaboheme]

[sunshine]

They should closed every streets downtown to car and build a large parking garage like universal studio in Paramore and makes everybody walk to downtown.

Then, they can charge an entrance fees and maybe downtown will be busy with the 56 millions tourist there per year.

----I am just bored.

[cwetteland]

I fear a permanent eyesore.

So do I, and if nothing happens then the current eyesore becomes a permanent eyesore by definition.

[facilities man]

Based on the last rendering that was posted, I think the parking pedestal will be situated on the east side of the building, facing away from I-4. You should be able to catch a glimpse of it as you come from the north or south but it's not going to be anywhere near as prominent as 55 West's garage.

The way this is proposed it will not only conceal it's own garage, but help conceal the monstrosity of a parking garage on the East side of the commuter rail tracks. I look at this as a possitive.

[prahaboheme]

So do I, and if nothing happens then the current eyesore becomes a permanent eyesore by definition.

By what logic? A parking lot can be built upon at any time--but if it is not done right the first time, it is already too late. I can only think of one building in recent memory that was built and was so horrendous a city forced the developer to redo the facade. Orlando would never do this; they hardly hold developers accountable for anything at all.

[JFW657]

The way this is proposed it will not only conceal it's own garage, but help conceal the monstrosity of a parking garage on the East side of the commuter rail tracks. I look at this as a possitive.

I agree. If you study the rendering posted here earlier, it looks like the hotel tower is L shaped, with the long leg of the L on the west side next to I-4, & the short leg of the L on the south side, pointing east. I'm guessing the parking deck is concealed in the crook of the L.

[camstrang]

I heard on the news the other day that Dolce (the former Club Paris) is already closed? Is that true? Is it part of the the Hilton coming in, or did they just go out of business?

[pip]

I heard on the news the other day that Dolce (the former Club Paris) is already closed? Is that true? Is it part of the the Hilton coming in, or did they just go out of business?

thank god. what a cheezball club it was. hopefully Bliss is next. would be nice if we can get that side of the tracks with some nice restaurants instead. (and of course moving in some nice retail one day into the empty stores!).