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Parking is always a deterrent. I think people would go downtown more often if businesses were able to validate/comp parking. I know of a few businesses that used to validate parking but are no longer doing so.

Also, the LYMMO service needs to expand to accomodate the residents of ALL local neighborhoods. That would be nice.

...or, we could just have a commuter rail service.

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Lots of permitting this month including applying for the 1st floor interior demo.  

Yes - employees that park in that lot have been advised that the lot will be gone in the coming weeks 

I've long thought the Creative Village was more PR to get the new arena built than anything else when no one wanted to hand a penny to Rich DeVos. Grand urban projects of that sort rarely amount to an

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Church Street hops — but only on arena-event nights:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-magic-arena-business-20110409,0,1804018.story

Even the bar folks are saying we have enough bars downtown:

"Church Street needs more family-friendly entertainment, said Mike Murray, who manages the new Heat restaurant and nightclub.

"There's enough dance clubs," he said. "Let's get some different venues."

Here's where the city needs to step up. All the downtown churches, the Orlando Public Library and the History Center are programming stuff throughout the week for kids and families; now, it's a matter of coordinating dining and other options for these folks to fill in gaps when the arena has no events and earlier in the day when the party-til-you-puke crowd isn't out. Of course, the perfect bridge for these different audiences is RETAIL, along with menus at the restaurants downtown more geared for families earlier in the day.

Downtown can serve all these markets - it just has to be coordinated correctly so businesses target their efforts to the right audience at the right time of day.

Church Street Station needn't look farther than it's former self if it wants family friendly inspiration. CCS in the 90s was retail/restaurant by day, family friendly fun by early evening, and party till you drop at night.

It would be great for CCS to land a House of Blues style venue. Also, it wouldn't hurt the CSS owners to reintroduce Terror on Church Street, if only for the months of September and October, as a downtown/local answer to Halloween Horror Nights/Mickey's Not So Scary. CSS could also do a "Winter Wonderland" for the holidays season, decoratively dress up the street with lights/ornaments, fake snow (tacky but people like it), music, Santa, the works. If Celebration can attract people by the thousands (with a serious parking situation), this should not be a problem for Church Street.

I think the possibilities are boundless (they seemed that way 20 years ago), but we haven't really seen a lot of creative juices flowing (at least publicly).

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I'll tell you right now what by far is the biggest problem. Its really 90% of the problem. Its paying to park. This isn't NYC, Boston, of D.C. People in Florida don't want to pay to park. For an event like a Magic game or concert at the Amway, yeah they will. But just going out to dinner on the weekend or even worse a weeknight isn't happening. If no one has noticed every corner in this city and surrounding areas has either a Applebee's, TGI Friday's, Longhorn Steakhouse or whatever there. Plus the parking is over priced at that. Yeah, I guess $1.00 an hour under I-4 isn't bad, but thats more trouble than its worth. I bet more people would come if there was a flat $3.00 or even $5.00 fee to park instead of the $1.00/hr even if they're staying for only a couple of hours. The 55West garage is in a great location, but $2.00 an hour is bullsh*t. I live there and if my gf wants to spend the night we have to leave one of our cars somewhere because the parking ends up being like $30. And god forbid they could do some kind of validation system at the church st. businesses for parking here too.

If you're part of the "lets go to the club and get drunk" crowd, yeah that parking situation is no problem. But if the city wants families and the business they bring in the retail area to downtown the parking is the main hold up.

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I'll tell you right now what by far is the biggest problem. Its really 90% of the problem. Its paying to park. This isn't NYC, Boston, of D.C. People in Florida don't want to pay to park. For an event like a Magic game or concert at the Amway, yeah they will. But just going out to dinner on the weekend or even worse a weeknight isn't happening. If no one has noticed every corner in this city and surrounding areas has either a Applebee's, TGI Friday's, Longhorn Steakhouse or whatever there. Plus the parking is over priced at that. Yeah, I guess $1.00 an hour under I-4 isn't bad, but thats more trouble than its worth. I bet more people would come if there was a flat $3.00 or even $5.00 fee to park instead of the $1.00/hr even if they're staying for only a couple of hours. The 55West garage is in a great location, but $2.00 an hour is bullsh*t. I live there and if my gf wants to spend the night we have to leave one of our cars somewhere because the parking ends up being like $30. And god forbid they could do some kind of validation system at the church st. businesses for parking here too.

If you're part of the "lets go to the club and get drunk" crowd, yeah that parking situation is no problem. But if the city wants families and the business they bring in the retail area to downtown the parking is the main hold up.

To be fair, there is a $6 parking rate for "Diner's Parking". At least there is according to the DDB's website: http://downtownorlando.com/getting-around/parking, or the City of Orlando's Transportation Page: http://www.cityoforlando.net/transportation/Parking/garages/garage_options.htm

I agree, the parking situation in 55W is terrible for guests. I also live in 55W and I have the same problem .. I just give my girlfriend cash and forget about it, but it is very expensive. Overnight is the worst. They don't charge you more than $15 per day, but if she stays over, that $15 cap is hit on the first day and the second day by like 8AM. That's more of a 55 West problem though. The Vue, for example, has some guest parking for guests of residents. I am aware of no such mechanism in 55 West, and it is very irritating.

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Excited about this! Finally, some good beer in downtown Orlando. I went to the playoff game tonight (AGH ANGER SDFKLJSDFKJSD) and saw that Draft has opened up west of I-4, which is supposed to have a good selection. I was late for the game so I didn't have time to drop in and check it out.

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I'll tell you right now what by far is the biggest problem. Its really 90% of the problem. Its paying to park. This isn't NYC, Boston, of D.C. People in Florida don't want to pay to park. For an event like a Magic game or concert at the Amway, yeah they will. But just going out to dinner on the weekend or even worse a weeknight isn't happening. If no one has noticed every corner in this city and surrounding areas has either a Applebee's, TGI Friday's, Longhorn Steakhouse or whatever there. Plus the parking is over priced at that. Yeah, I guess $1.00 an hour under I-4 isn't bad, but thats more trouble than its worth. I bet more people would come if there was a flat $3.00 or even $5.00 fee to park instead of the $1.00/hr even if they're staying for only a couple of hours. The 55West garage is in a great location, but $2.00 an hour is bullsh*t. I live there and if my gf wants to spend the night we have to leave one of our cars somewhere because the parking ends up being like $30. And god forbid they could do some kind of validation system at the church st. businesses for parking here too.

If you're part of the "lets go to the club and get drunk" crowd, yeah that parking situation is no problem. But if the city wants families and the business they bring in the retail area to downtown the parking is the main hold up.

Drive a few blocks out of Church/Orange, and you will find plenty of on street parking free of charge. Granted, you will have to walk a few blocks -- isnt that the reason you are downtown?

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Drive a few blocks out of Church/Orange, and you will find plenty of on street parking free of charge. Granted, you will have to walk a few blocks -- isnt that the reason you are downtown?

Not everyone that goes to downtown are as urban minded as most of us on here, especially females walking in high heels. Additionally the summer heat/humidity can make just getting to your car brutal. I am still puzzled and upset as to why the city does not allow parking on central blvd from 2am-8am at certain locations.

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To be fair, there is a $6 parking rate for "Diner's Parking". At least there is according to the DDB's website: http://downtownorlan...-around/parking, or the City of Orlando's Transportation Page: http://www.cityoforl...age_options.htm

too complicated

I agree, the parking situation in 55W is terrible for guests. I also live in 55W and I have the same problem .. I just give my girlfriend cash and forget about it, but it is very expensive. Overnight is the worst. They don't charge you more than $15 per day, but if she stays over, that $15 cap is hit on the first day and the second day by like 8AM. That's more of a 55 West problem though. The Vue, for example, has some guest parking for guests of residents. I am aware of no such mechanism in 55 West, and it is very irritating.

I asked about the guest parking when I moved in. They said no dice.

Excited about this! Finally, some good beer in downtown Orlando. I went to the playoff game tonight (AGH ANGER SDFKLJSDFKJSD) and saw that Draft has opened up west of I-4, which is supposed to have a good selection. I was late for the game so I didn't have time to drop in and check it out.

Yes! They have a ton of stuff and I thought it was very nice. I was there in the afternoon for lunch last weekend and just got a hamburger. All the food is pricey (expected) but for a $10 burger it was not very good.

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Yes! They have a ton of stuff and I thought it was very nice. I was there in the afternoon for lunch last weekend and just got a hamburger. All the food is pricey (expected) but for a $10 burger it was not very good.

Now if the Lymmo got expanded to Thornton Park, you could park your car somewhere in the core, get a burger at Graffiti Junktion, take the Lymmo over to Draft and continue drinking from a better selection of beer.

I did my best not to bring up the concept of a train. :whistling:

And I think the no parking after 2am on Central has to do with street cleaning. Same thing goes for some of the surrounding streets at that time.

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I had an office on Magnolia years ago (over a decade) and worked through the night. My car went beyond getting a ticket; it was towed away, so that the street could be cleaned. I came down to go home just after dawn and my car was gone. They will ticket you now and just clean around a parked car.

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Every first Saturday of the month (show 12pm - 5pm) there is a car show on Church Street Between Amway Center and Orange Ave.

While the first two events have had ok crowd attendance, there are quite a lot of car enthusiasts that show. When it's not so hot out I think this will draw a good crowd, not to mention it's one more person out there during the day on a saturday than normal. If anything the car show'ers are patronizing the downtown restaurants...especially when winners receive $50 gift cards to local restaurants / bars.

http://churchstreetdistrict.com/carshow.html

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1st place best exterior!

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OK, because Downtown Steve said to, here's the Church Street Station thread so that we shan't wander  :offtopic: . In any event, some significant news from OBJ:

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/2012/12/church-street-lands-new-craft.html

 

Much as I love praha's idea of retail here, the article suggests a major restaurant chain may be getting the bottom floor of the Exchange (alternatively, the usual suspects foodwise) and that the upper floors are likely to go office. Oh well, it was a lovely dream. 

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It seems like everything open in downtown Orlando is beer related...very one dimensional...

 

Milwaukee and St. Louis ain't what they used to be, maybe this is the exciting new industry for us. "The Beer That Made O-town Famous?" "'Tis A Privilege To Beer Bong in Central Florida?" Oh well, the fraternities will love us even if we'll never make it in Chain Store Age. *sigh*

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Beer is not what it used to be. A lot more high end and is comparable to wine now. I personally do not drink wine but have never had a beer bong. But there are a lot of beercentric establishments. 

 

Agreed. I was being facetious but we do have some very capable brewmasters around town - Ron Raike over at Cask and Larder, for example,  is doing some amazing things.

 

I haven't done the beer bong since college but it was fun too!

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I am most curious to see what becomes of the Cheyenne Saloon space.  According to the article, 3 entertainment concepts are being considered.  Rumor had it that House of Blues would end their lease at Disney and were scouting out downtown locations.  That was several years ago, though.  Also, Cheyenne Saloon is much too small a space. 

 

There were also rumors swirling about a downtown location for an Ale House.

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Swung by Eternal Tap for a drink this evening to check it out. Beautiful place (had never been inside before). Good beer selection and whiskey bar downstairs. Staff was friendly and eager to talk about what they are doing there. They have a challenge in getting people to venture off of Church down the tracks to their shop. Try and swing by and spread the word. Too much of the amazing older storespace has been a secret for too long

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