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TheDetroitCity99

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Hmmmm is trump planning to build in detroit? I heard about quite a few of other develupments in progress, and i can see alot of construction going on near the edge of new center but im not sure what it is. Can anyone tell me or give me links, also if you know of any other develupments going on please post it!!

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I think by going through the board here you'll find the majority of the projects under construction or being proposed have their own thread.

In regards to Trump, He was interested more than a few years ago but the city turned him down. (From what I've read on this board)

Oh yeah- Welcome to UrbanPlanet :thumbsup:

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I think by going through the board here you'll find the majority of the projects under construction or being proposed have their own thread.

In regards to Trump, He was interested more than a few years ago but the city turned him down. (From what I've read on this board)

Oh yeah- Welcome to UrbanPlanet :thumbsup:

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The wasnt going to do something if it wasnt in its best interest. Im guessing what Trump was proposing wasnt the best option for the city.

DevelUPment? :lol:

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lol...develOpment..."o" not "u"! :)

As far as I know, and I'm sure others know better, Trumps interest was in a casino. The city had their hands full with the 3 already playing games and trying to establish themselves in the city. Another casino joining the ruckus would have been just too much. And I don't believe it would have brought any more wealth to the city. Although, I do kinda wish one of the 3 casinos was a Trump.

But on that note, it would be neat to see Trump interested in an office/residential/hotel tower in Detroit as he is known for in other cities. Yes, New Orleans has a bajillion more tourists than Detroit, but the city and metro are much smaller. Detroit has higher profile, and it's downtown is pulling through. It would be nice for Trump to recognize potential in Detroit and make a committment of that magnitude (if his companany's studies prove they can do a project).

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Do you think he'll break the record in building height if he comes here? where do you think he will/shall build his TRUMP Inernational Hotel and Tower Detroit.

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I highly doubt that Trump or any other high-profile developer would attempt a super tall in Detroit, let alone breaking any height records. I just don't see the Detroit economy being able to support a building of that magnitude.

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Detroit won't be seeing any large-scale developments from Trump or any other big names anytime soon. The economy here is among the worst in the nation, and although we've made great strides in downtown development over the past 10 years, we're still not in the position to build such a development.

We've renovated the Kales. We've renovated a few blocks of Woodward. We've added residential units here and there. The creation of residential units downtown is going at a snail's pace. We're adding units, but not very quickly. The critical mass required for a large scale mixed use project is not yet there. We're just getting started by testing the market with projects like the Griswold. If the Griswold and Book Cadillac are a success, look for more interest in larger projects, but still not anything super huge. Check back in 10 more years and maybe we'll be able to talk about larger projects. There are just too many stumbling blocks right now (see Broderick, Fort Shelby, & Lafayette as examples).

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What's the deal with Fort Shelby. Last I read, it was supposed to have already started. Articles I've read said that all obstacles and deals have been finalized and opening was projected for september 2007. Same with the Broderick. I can't find the articles, but the deals were closed and there was nothing in the way, as far as I know.

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Fort Shelby is still piecing together the financing.

I am not really in the position to comment on Broderick, but they've run into some major delays.

City is searching for new developers for the Lafayette Building.

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So, it's official about Peebles not meeting the city halfway, and that particular project being scrapped?

I sent an email to the Broderick and got a reply back today, but it was the generic PR crap you get from developers (i.e. "we still hope to start by this year, and finish the end of 2008")

I completely agree about Trump-sized projects. It doesn't even make sense to be debating heights, when the chances of a Trump-type company investing in Detroit in a high-rise project are currently pretty slim, though increasing every day.

That said, I do kind of disagree with the tone of your view of Detroit, Allan. I know I personally find the likes of the B-C, the Kales, The Griswold, The Lofts at Merchant's Row, and hundreds/thousands of other units since 2000 nothing short of amazing considering how horrible the economy is. I don't think it appropriate to undermine the progress that has been made. The difference between the downtown of even 2000 and today is literally night and day. We'd all like things to move faster than they are, but the city is nearing the critical mass.

For me, a very interesting project is the B-C. There is no way that a project of this size and scope should have ever worked in this economy. The fact that we had dozens of levels of financing, dozens of local, state, and national departments that sunk their time and money into such a risk speaks a lot about the lengths people will go to to make an inner-city Detroit revitalization work.

There are reasons to be pessimistic about the future of large swaths of Detroit, but downtown is not one of those regions that need to be worried about.

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Peebles wanted the city to hand them everything. The city wasn't going to give in to their terms. There were some other developers who expressed interest when the initial RFP went out a couple of years ago, so I'm sure someone else will step forward.

The good thing about Broderick is that the plans are done, and the city is really pushing to get the project done now. Ideally work would start this year, but that is uncertain at this point.

Oh well, there's going to be a big push to redevelop some other buildings soon.... :whistling:

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Torture?! The reason I am not very specific in a lot of my info is because I get my info from a handful of inside sources whose jobs could be on the line if certain info gets leaked. One friend nearly lost his job by leaking info onto internet forums. A lot of the inner workings of these developments are very sensitive. Often times, the info that gets leaked can be just enough to nix a deal at the very last minute.

There's some good stuff in the works though...several building renovations, and one new building, and some smaller things. I think a lot of you will be pleasantly surprised when the official announcements come along. :)

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It was rhetorical and said jokingly. Sorry, I wasn't more clear. That said, can you drop any hints?

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Allan im sorry but I have to spill the beans here. Detroit will be getting its very own Cheescake Factory built on Monroe Block. Try to keep this on the DL though, jobs are on the line.

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Yeah, but you forgot about the ESPN Zone that's going on the Hudson's Block!

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...I could have sworn a gas station was going on the Hudson's block! :wacko:

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Nah, the gas station is going up on the Statler Block. That way all the suburbanites can fill up on their way out of downtown after visiting the casino, the Fox, and Comerica Park. Convenient freeway access via Bagley means less time spent in scary Detroit for all those suburbanites.

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What? That's what I always thought the Portable Gas Station was invented for!

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were you guys being serious or sarcastic about the cheesecake factory and ESPNZone?

those sound great but i dont want to get my hopes up if you're all kidding! :)

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Didn't once a radio station plan to build it's headquarters on the Monroe Block. I remember it was going to be three stories and had Kilpatrick's support. I think our mayor is great, but he needs to appoint a creative advisor that will tell him what and what not to support. 3 stories on Monroe?!?!?!? :blink:

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Detroit won't be seeing any large-scale developments from Trump or any other big names anytime soon. The economy here is among the worst in the nation, and although we've made great strides in downtown development over the past 10 years, we're still not in the position to build such a development.

We've renovated the Kales. We've renovated a few blocks of Woodward. We've added residential units here and there. The creation of residential units downtown is going at a snail's pace. We're adding units, but not very quickly. The critical mass required for a large scale mixed use project is not yet there. We're just getting started by testing the market with projects like the Griswold. If the Griswold and Book Cadillac are a success, look for more interest in larger projects, but still not anything super huge. Check back in 10 more years and maybe we'll be able to talk about larger projects. There are just too many stumbling blocks right now (see Broderick, Fort Shelby, & Lafayette as examples).

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Yeah, but you forgot about the ESPN Zone that's going on the Hudson's Block!

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Didn't once a radio station plan to build it's headquarters on the Monroe Block. I remember it was going to be three stories and had Kilpatrick's support. I think our mayor is great, but he needs to appoint a creative advisor that will tell him what and what not to support. 3 stories on Monroe?!?!?!? :blink:

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