Perception of Charlotte Nationwide

[HopHead]

Two events I avoid uptown like the plague for: CIAA and Speed Street. Mainly because I have no interest in either. But if it's good for the city from an economical standpoint and minimal problems, I'm all for it..

[kermit]

FWIW I heard two different Southend restaurant / bar owners separately say that this was the busiest and most lucrative CIAA they have ever had.

[Synopsis101]

Very glad the CIAA is in Charlotte.

[js4life]

I would also add that these incidents happen at non CIAA sponsored functions. A lot of parties are held by outside promotors looking to make some easy cash. In the past they have booked huge blocks of hotel rooms & overcharged people.

[CLTProductions]

But yes, to be very fair. The issue isn't with CIAA and its events. It's the rappers events that claim affiliation with the CIAA. I didn't realize there was a stabbing also. But yeah, these issues aren't the CIAAs fault. It's the people that come to town for the event only looking to party and look to Charlotte as a playground with no rules.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article11881232.html

[southslider]

Tonight, Charlotte should catch up with other major cities by adopting a more inclusive non-discrimination ordinance.

[Niner National]

Apparently lots of non local protest groups are expected.

[DMann]

Eric Frazier had a good column in the Observer today regarding this issue.

[jednc]

FWIW I heard two different Southend restaurant / bar owners separately say that this was the busiest and most lucrative CIAA they have ever had.

Find two servers who'll say the same.

[southslider]

Apparently lots of non local protest groups are expected.

And as if nothing has changed since 1992, Charlotte is once again a national disgrace. Even Myrtle Beach is more forward-thinking than Reverend Graham's hamlet.

[CLTProductions]

I agree that voting this down makes out city look intolerant and pathetic. But pardon my ignorance, but I'm not exactly sure what this measure would do? Could someone explain.

[southslider]

^Add marital status, familial status, sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression to non-discrimination, public accommodations, and passenger vehicles for hire ordinances.

Edited March 3, 2015 by southslider

[CLTProductions]

^Add sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression to non-discrimination, public accommodations, and vehicles for hire ordinances.

Yeah, I got that, I'm just not exactly sure what it would do differently than now, other than just have it on the books? I am not in an effected group so maybe I don't notice the problems now, but other than the transgender bathroom thing, I'm not sure what difference there would be.

[rancenc]

_{I find it ironic that the council's only openly gay member Lawanda Mayfield voted AGAINST the ordinance.}

Edited March 3, 2015 by rancenc

[southslider]

^Because you don't throw your brethren under the bus.

[elrodvt]

^Because you don't throw your brethren under the bus.

What's that mean? I heard on npr she voted against because the bathroom clause was removed - in other words the ordinance had been gutted in her mind.

 

I was accosted on Tryon by one of these nuts, probably from out of town. I asked them to leave us alone and they kept at it. Annoying people.

Edited March 3, 2015 by elrodvt

[DCMetroRaleigh]

Autry and Mayfield voted against the amended version because it would not allow transgender people to use restroom facilities consistent with their gender identity. While I admire their stance that transgender people should be fully protected through the ordinance, they have given the radical right a high profile and important victory by voting against an ordinance that would have nonetheless protected transgender people in housing, carriers, and other public accomodations. Moreover, sexual orientation would have become a protected class through the ordinance. Now, they have aided and abetted in giving the radical right a huge victory and made Charlotte look like a bigoted hicktown. 

"We cannot let an unachievable ideal stand in the way of a good deal." ---Susan Rice

Edited March 3, 2015 by DCMetroRaleigh

[elrodvt]

Autry and Mayfield voted against the amended version because it would not allow transgender people to use restroom facilities consistent with their gender identity. While I admire their stance that transgender people should be fully protected through the ordinance, they have given the radical right a high profile and important victory by voting against an ordinance that would have nonetheless protected transgender people in housing, carriers, and other public accomodations. Moreover, sexual orientation would have become a protected class through the ordinance. Now, they have aided and abetted in giving the radical right a huge victory and made Charlotte look like a bigoted hicktown. 

"We cannot let an unachievable ideal stand in the way of a good deal." ---Susan Rice

They're just reflecting the values of our state "bigoted hick-state".

[DCMetroRaleigh]

Perhaps, but Bessemer City, Greensboro, Chapel Hill, Carrboro, Durham, Raleigh, and Winston-Salem already passed such laws. With little or no resistance.

Edited March 3, 2015 by DCMetroRaleigh

[jednc]

They're just reflecting the values of our state "bigoted hick-state".

Really? And didn't you go on and on ad nauseum about how you went through a long process before you moved to this bigoted hick-state? Why did you choose to live here?

 

If some of you think you are winning any hearts and minds by putting down those people who don't agree with your politics (or in some cases just your PC lip service), then you are kidding yourself. If you want to be taken seriously, and be heard, throwing a hissy fit is not the way to go about it.

[DCMetroRaleigh]

Elections matter. Democrats should turn out en masse during the primaries to replace Dems who voted against it, except Autry and Mayfield.  Moreover, the choices for Democrats for mayor should be thinned out after last night.

[ah59396]

[elrodvt]

Really? And didn't you go on and on ad nauseum about how you went through a long process before you moved to this bigoted hick-state? Why did you choose to live here?

 

If some of you think you are winning any hearts and minds by putting down those people who don't agree with your politics (or in some cases just your PC lip service), then you are kidding yourself. If you want to be taken seriously, and be heard, throwing a hissy fit is not the way to go about it.

It was meant to be a slam against the state legislature. I did expect the urban centers to be much more progressive and it seems many others do as well.

 

Note - I did not choose to live in NC. I had to move here and asked for help "ad-nauseum" on where to live in Charlotte.  Sorry that tried your patience. To those that helped, it was very helpful and I think we could not have picked the best possible place without your help.

[CLTProductions]

I literally laughed out loud at my desk like an idiot. Amazing.

[ah59396]

I'm confident there is a Simpsons gif or quote for any situation.