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I'm shocked and saddened by Dale's post, if I'm reading it correctly. 

EDIT- Silicon Dogwoods and I posted at the same time, I meant Dale's post. 

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37 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

How would one of you explain this issue as though they were talking to a 70 year old man that desperately wants to understand the ramifications. Could someone write an educated, levelheaded response, that I can send my dad? Frankly I'm too tired, hung over, and under the weather (not a good combination) to have any patience for my father. 

Please help, before he talks to the only gay friend he has about the situation, and ruins a friendship. LOL.

Salon just posted a good article. There’s no way the governor’s backward measures legalizing discrimination against LGBTQ individuals can stand

I don't know if that's what you're looking for...

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10 minutes ago, Piedmont767 said:

Surely all this attention has shown that Charlotte is a forward-thinking city that cares about being a modern 21st century city that prohibits discrimination, but we have been held back by the state and thats not our fault. Anyone else think that?

Yeah. And even more importantly, when we look back on this, this may be the tipping point that marks the beginning of a long-term shift in our state's politics. Demographic trends are already on that side, but it's just a matter of time until people pay more attention. Independent redistricting will be a majorly important part of that puzzle, however.

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Is this the time we start a campaign to rename the Panthers the Charlotte Panthers and drop the Carolina name?

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Wait, are we just going to ignore that the mayor of San Francisco literally just said that publicly paid employees are not allowed to travel to NC except for emergencies. Talk about overreacting. It's one thing to denounce it but that's a little crazy.

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4 hours ago, Nick2 said:

Wait, are we just going to ignore that the mayor of San Francisco literally just said that publicly paid employees are not allowed to travel to NC except for emergencies. Talk about overreacting. It's one thing to denounce it but that's a little crazy.

Why shouldn't the Mayor of a city have a say in how the city's money is spent? This is nothing more a boycott, which is the same thing that started the modern Civil rights movement in 1955.  

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Cause it's not the city's money being spent, it's the employee's money. Everybody has their right to boycott, but you can't force others to boycott as well. My reason for saying this is some people there have family here. You can't dictate how people live their lives outside of work, granted that it's not illegal. While what's being done in this state isn't popular (or possibly even legal), this is a bit far. 

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Here's hoping that San Francisco's Mayor Lee's travel ban is the start of something bigger. Keep San Franciscans in San Francisco!

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8 hours ago, Miesian Corners said:

The mayor of San Francisco is mandating that no city employees travel to NC for official CITY business. He said nothing about what employees of the City of San Francisco may do on their own time with their own money. 

Dale, are you saying an employer should be able to fire an employee because they're black or Presbyterian or male or because they have blonde hair...? If not, please enlighten me (the 'authoritarian').

 

That is correct. Because I am not an authoritarian. I would never presume to dictate to a business owner whom to hire and whom to fire. I advocate for liberty.

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1 hour ago, Dale said:

That is correct. Because I am not an authoritarian. I would never presume to dictate to a business owner whom to hire and whom to fire. I advocate for liberty.

Yes. The liberty to not have access to the same goods and services because of your skin color, your gender, what you do in your bedroom, or what you believe in.

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1 hour ago, Dale said:

That is correct. Because I am not an authoritarian. I would never presume to dictate to a business owner whom to hire and whom to fire. I advocate for liberty.

Have you often been the victim of such "liberty"?

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Liberty is a dubious term right now. I once went through a Rand-ian objectivist phase and thought that pure unfettered liberty was the only way to truly guarantee world equality, but then I realized how many different ways "liberty" has been co-opted by those who, at best, invoke it when they don't want to think about anyone else in this world but themselves, and at worst, were just... yknow, not nice people.

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13 hours ago, Dale said:

That is correct. Because I am not an authoritarian. I would never presume to dictate to a business owner whom to hire and whom to fire. I advocate for liberty.

So in essence you are in agreement with doing away with the silly I-9 and E-verify system that is mandated by both the Federal and State governments in hiring in virtually any organization (which I personally don't have a problem with myself)

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