Jax vs Mia vs Tampa vs Orlando

[sunshine]

Miami

Population: 2,333,000

RANK

Advanced Degrees1 53

Cost of Doing Business2 95

Cost Of Living3 127

Crime Rate4 148

Culture & Leisure5 19

Educational Attainment6 106

Income Growth* 132

Job Growth* 79

Net Migration* 47

Overall 139

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Tampa

Population: 2,490,000

RANK

Advanced Degrees1 88

Cost of Doing Business2 82

Cost Of Living3 89

Crime Rate4 126

Culture & Leisure5 40

Educational Attainment6 105

Income Growth* 105

Job Growth* 26

Net Migration* 22

Overall 102

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Jacksonville

Population: 1,155,000

RANK

Advanced Degrees1 97

Cost of Doing Business2 77

Cost Of Living3 78

Crime Rate4 122

Culture & Leisure5 68

Educational Attainment6 92

Income Growth* 111

Job Growth* 43

Net Migration* 34

Overall 106

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Orlando

Population: 1,752,000

RANK

Advanced Degrees1 86

Cost of Doing Business2 87

Cost Of Living3 103

Crime Rate4 116

Culture & Leisure5 101

Educational Attainment6 69

Income Growth* 112

Job Growth* 24

Net Migration* 9

Overall 86

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Fort Lauderdale

Population: 1,709,000

RANK

Advanced Degrees1 NA

Cost of Doing Business2 97

Cost Of Living3 124

Crime Rate4 61

Culture & Leisure5 58

Educational Attainment6 76

Income Growth* 88

Job Growth* 17

Net Migration* 16

Overall 59

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Gainesville

Population: 222,000

RANK

Advanced Degrees1 7

Cost of Doing Business2 138

Cost Of Living3 113

Crime Rate4 142

Culture & Leisure5 36

Educational Attainment6 10

Income Growth* 142

Job Growth* 30

Net Migration* 70

Overall 63

[sunshine]

I did some mistakes here and did some misintepretation.

Those numbers represents the ranking out of the entire list of small and large metro that frobes do a survey on.

Sorry for the misleading.

On the othe words, Orlando is very low in culture ranking.

In term of job growth, Ft Lauderdale has the best ranking and Miami is the worst.

In term of crime rate, Ft Lauderdale is would have the highest crime rate.

Here are the describtion of category 1,2,3,4,5,6

1 Ph. Ds per 100,000 residents.

2 Index based on cost of labor, energy, taxes and office space.

3 Index based on cost of housing, utilities, transportation and other expenditures.

4 Crimes per 100,000 residents.

5 Index based on museums, theaters, golf course, sports teams and other activities.

6 Share of Population over age 25 with a bachelor's degree or higher.

* 5-year annualized figures.

Thus, in term of overall rating, Gainesville and Ft Lauderdale ranked higher than the other.

Here is the website.

Forbes Website

[Brickell]

high numbesrs good? low numbers good?

I'm having trouble figure which is which.

miami wins or gainesville?

Anyone who gives Miami a culture & leisure score the lowest in the state obviously has never spent any time here or is blantantly racist. Or is that the best score?

Still no following...

[sunshine]

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[bobliocatt]

Yeah, the list is kind of hard to understand. Is the lower numbers better or worse than the higher numbers. What's the best score can you recieve for each category?

[sunshine]

Sorry for the misleading, I added explanations in my previous post.

[prahaboheme]

I guess it would make sense that Gainesville has the most PhDs. There are pretty high up there with culture too, and a lot smaller than Miami.

Anyway, weird ranking. If I were going to rank them myself based on these statistics the only one I would move would be Ft. Lauderdale above Orlando.

[steve_o]

I may be off, but isn't Ft. Lauderdale already above Orlando?

[PghUSA]

Forbes is flawed once again (this after declaring for 2 years in a row Pittsburgh is the Worst place for singles but then Esquire names Pittsburgh the #1 city for Rock-n-Roll and partying)

The population estimates are W-R-O-N-G, I went to college in Orlando the citizens of Orlando number ONLY 150,000 or so. NOT millions, these are either county or multi-county estimates, they are comparing apples and oranges.

Miami city is also quite small, and there is no way the city of Tampa has that many people.

I am no fan of the city vs. city comparison (because Phoenix has around 60% of its Metroplex while Miami and Pittsburgh only control about 25% of thiers, so how could you compare them equally when there is already a 35% land (and people) difference?) I think you should let people know they are comparing the Metroplexes here and NOT the cities.

[Brickell]

For clarification:

I think Gainesville is ranked among smaller metro's so wouldn't be on the level of the others.

Population (county?):

Tpa - 2,490,000

Mia - 2,333,000

Orl - 1,752,000

Fll - 1,709,000

Jax - 1,155,000

Advanced Degrees (ranked - Ph. Ds per 100,000 residents):

Mia - 53

Orl - 86

Tpa - 88

Jax - 97

Fll - n/a

Cost of Doing Business (ranked - cheapest to most expensive - Index based on cost of labor, energy, taxes and office space):

Jax - 77

Orl - 87

Tpa - 88

Mia - 95

Fll - 97

Cost of living (ranked -cheapest to most expensive - Index based on cost of housing, utilities, transportation and other expenditures):

Jax - 78

Tpa - 89

Orl - 103

Gns - 113

Fll - 124

Mia - 127

Crime rate (ranked - lowest to highest - Crimes per 100,000 residents):

Fll - 61

Orl - 116

Jax - 122

Tpa - 126

Mia - 148

Culture and Leisure (ranked - most to do to least - Index based on museums, theaters, golf course, sports teams and other activities):

Mia - 19

Tpa - 40

Fll - 58

Jax - 68

Orl - 101 *why so low???*

Educational Attainment ( ranked - best to worst - Share of Population over age 25 with a bachelor's degree or higher):

Orl - 69

Fll - 76

Jax - 92

Tpa - 105

Mia - 106

Income Growth (ranked - most to least - 5 year annualized):

Fll - 88

Tpa - 105

Jax - 111

Orl - 112

Mia - 132

Job Growth (ranked - most to least - 5 year annualized):

Fll - 17

Orl - 24

Tpa - 26

Jax - 43

Mia - 79

Net Migration - (ranked - most to least - 5 year annualized):

Orl - 9

Fll - 16

Tpa - 22

Jax - 34

Mia - 47

Overall - (ranked - best to least):

Fll - 59

Orl - 86

Tpa - 102

Jax - 106

Mia - 139

Brickell's personal favorites order of finish (based on my brain):

Miami

Tampa

Jacksonville

Fort Lauderdale

Orlando

[Brickell]

Well that took too long...

Here's more lists, southwest coast is where it's at, according to the snobs at Forbes.

Here's the rank of florida small cities:

Rank Metro Area Cost of Doing Business2 Job Growth* EducationalAttainment6 Population

(thou)

53 Naples, FL 139 2 31 277

63 Gainesville, FL 138 30 10 222

76 Fort Walton Beach, FL 141 41 53 176

85 Tallahassee, FL 133 70 14 289

106 Punta Gorda, FL 136 8 117 149

135 Ocala, FL 132 56 156 273

160 Panama City, FL 134 80 115 152

And Large Places :

59 Fort Lauderdale, FL 97 17 76 1,709

60 Fort Myers, FL 83 4 110 476

61 Sarasota, FL 100 10 74 620

66 West Palm Beach, FL 96 7 46 1,190

76 Pensacola, FL 60 81 108 424

86 Orlando, FL 87 24 69 1,752

87 Daytona Beach, FL 79 18 128 517

94 Melbourne, FL 101 39 84 496

102 Tampa, FL 82 26 105 2,490

106 Jacksonville, FL 77 43 92 1,155

114 Fort Pierce, FL 80 34 121 338

124 Lakeland, FL 81 37 142 499

139 Miami, FL 95 79 106 2,333

[sunshine]

Ft Lauderdale is ranked highest overall and Miami is the lowest.

[prahaboheme]

^ which is obviously retarded.

[tonyff67]

Anyone who gives Miami a culture & leisure score the lowest in the state obviously has never spent any time here or is blantantly racist.  Or is that the best score?

Damn!! I have seen the race card pulled alot, But that is really stretching it. I don't understand the coralation between culture & liesure and racism.

[F-L-A]

Orlando's low culture & leisure rating is rediculous.

[sunshine]

It is not much of a rating but ranking..dont get confused. It doesnt mean Orlando doesnt have culture, just that it has a lot of cities with greater culture rating in front of it.

[cfguy]

I'm not suprised b/c only like 1/5 of Orlando is filled with culture. Only the areas down 17/92 like the Science Center and the Museum of Art. And in downtown at the history museum.

[Fruit Cove]

This is all screwed up but I like it still just to see...if something accurate could be produced itd be better?

[latinposer]

I think all of these things you put is garbage.Because Miami's metro population is way higher like around 5 million and ft.lauderdale doesnt have 1 million it barely has 300,000.Tampa doesnt have a million either,its all crap,Miami should be one of the best.

[accatt2204]

I think in the case of Tampa its metro is above 2 million, Orlando's is approaching 2 million too. Im not sure how they worked Ft. Lauderdales Metro, being that its just part of Miamis. Did they just do Broward county as Ft.L's metro?

[I-275westcoastflorida]

Tampa and Miami rule the rest done deal And also that pic of Tampa is bad so here is a better one

[BosTech]

Tampa and Miami rule the rest done deal And also that pic of Tampa is bad so here is a better one

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Jacksonville dowtown is much more prettier then Tampa,Tampa got more higher towers but only two are nice others are so-so on other hand Jax got only one bad tower CSX building,you got to love design of others from BoA,Modis,Wachovia,Suntrust,550,Omni hotel etc...very nice modern,blue and clean designs....with Skyway station driving on 95 Jax looks very futuristic.

[Viper]

Population figures are all over the timelines and boundaries.

Since metro population is what is being used, I'll fill in the gaps.

Miami - 5.29 million

Tampa - 2.53 million

Orlando - 1.86 million

Jax - 1.31 million

Ft L - Part of metro Miami

[Hisma]

where did you get that jacksonville metro population figure? highest i've seen it is at 1.1 million. 1.3 seems to be a tad inflated.

[Viper]

where did you get that jacksonville metro population figure?  highest i've seen it is at 1.1 million.  1.3 seems to be a tad inflated.

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1.12 million was the 2000 census figure. I've seen between 1.275 and 1.31 at several places.

Emporis is pretty well trusted for current metro figures and it has it listed at 1.275 since early last year.

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/?id=101041

Even that is kinda old because the city itself has surpassed 800,000 now.

Emporis needs to update it's building listing too, we have 13 towers of 20 storys and higher not listed that have been proposed or approved.