Belk Place: Carolina Theater and Hotel Intercontinental

[navigator319]

Yea that is Boston huh.  odd.  There is a great Intercontinental in Boston though and the glass kind of looks like this new render.  Much better IMO

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Eightane said:

Worth noting is that not only will this be the tallest hotel in the state when completed, it will be the first majority-hotel use building to top 30 stories. It kind of blows my mind that it took this long to hit that benchmark.

I suspect the 40 floor hotel bench mark will be crossed in the next 6 months. :-) Still can't believe Four Shootings is the largest hotel in the state still.

4 minutes ago, navigator319 said:

Yea that is Boston huh.  odd.  There is a great Intercontinental in Boston though and the glass kind of looks like this new render.  Much better IMO

yea definitely boston in the renderings lol

Edited September 18, 2018 by Guest

[BSUSSIMIM]

23 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

 

 

Edited September 19, 2018 by BSUSSIMIM

[Hushpuppy321]

Are you guys getting these renderings from Accela?   I've had nothing but trouble trying to use the citizen access tool for Accela

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Are you guys getting these renderings from Accela?   I've had nothing but trouble trying to use the citizen access tool for Accela

The current files on acella are only approved up to the 7th floor. The hotel will come later in the approvals. got the rendering from elswhere, and trying to get a full one.

Edited September 18, 2018 by Guest

[deleted]

I'm in the minority apparently but I liked the distinctiveness of the glass in earlier renderings more than the latest design (though it's not bad either).  This looks like a lot of other buildings and the other didn't.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, JBS said:

I'm in the minority apparently but I liked the distinctiveness of the glass in earlier renderings more than the latest design (though it's not bad either).  This looks like a lot of other buildings and the other didn't.

I Liked the previous glass much better, but always suspected it'd be VE'd out.

Edited September 18, 2018 by Guest

[Hushpuppy321]

I'm just glad this project is finally underway substantially and that the final height appears to have been increased 25+ feet.

[atlrvr]

2 hours ago, BSUSSIMIM said:

Yes - this is closer to the latest I've seen. There is still discussion happening around the hotel's entrance on 6th street and how it interacts with the glass that would be considered part of the Carolina Theatre lobby. But I'm with y'all - no idea why they didn't use Charlotte for the rendering...

Oddly, the first set of renderings used Pittsburgh.

[tarwater]

Is the tower going to be steel or concrete?

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, tarwater said:

Is the tower going to be steel or concrete?

I'd venture to guess Steel.

[Nick2]

[Guest]

I'd venture to guess Steel.

Id venture to guess concrete. Meant to change this earlier, after research.


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[Tyrone Wiggum]

13 hours ago, Nick2 said:

I raise you:

 

[gman430]

[NCMike1990]

9 minutes ago, gman430 said:

At this rate, the project should be topped out by 2042.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, gman430 said:

hard to believe the 16th tallest building in Charlotte is going to rise from this tiny spot. Intercontinental is confirmed at 416' feet, the tallest hotel in all of North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee. (it'll be taller than JW Marriott in Nashville!)

Edited October 21, 2018 by Guest

[SpiritOf76]

[Cadi40]

The workers from Lowe’s can build this faster than they can.

[Dale]

Not a big fan of DIY, but might recommend in this case.

[asthasr]

To be frank, the slowness doesn't surprise me at all. This is a tiny footprint. I'd guess that none of the available contractors have ever built anything like this in such a constrained space.

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

7 minutes ago, Cadi40 said:

The workers from Lowe’s can build this faster than they can.

It does appear to be a slow process, as stated a few times above, there is a ton going on with this project.  This is def not a normal construction timeline.  This helps explain a little to what they have been doing on the visible part of construction (outside):

https://carolinatheatreclt.org/category/construction/

Latest update is May, but gives you an idea/pics.

[CTiger]

I used to work on a construction crew that built retaining walls.  One of our biggest projects that I worked on was a mile long retaining wall along I-95 outside of DC.  We had about 12 feet of space alongside the wall to use as materials lay down and staging, equipment delivery, moving, and use, as well as actual workspace.  Working in a constrained space adds way way way more time to construction timelines than people can imagine.  A task as simple as a concrete pour becomes a logistical nightmare as you have to think about what equipment and materials need to be moved off-site to make room for a concrete truck as well as where that equipment will go.  You also need to make sure there is enough space for the truck to park where it needs to, turn around if necessary, etc.   The coordination gets really tight from a project management standpoint.  A site like this can't just have all of its steel delivered in bulk and kept on-site.  It will need to get delivered as needed or stored at an off-site staging space.  I can't imagine how much of a headache this one is.

[TheOneRJ]

3 hours ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

It does appear to be a slow process, as stated a few times above, there is a ton going on with this project.  This is def not a normal construction timeline.  This helps explain a little to what they have been doing on the visible part of construction (outside):

https://carolinatheatreclt.org/category/construction/

Latest update is May, but gives you an idea/pics.

There being no update since May only seems to further suggest this project is moving unrealistically slow. 

[Hushpuppy321]

I too have some construction background and am curious if MicroPiles will be used as Deep Foundation for this Structure in Lieu of Steel Bearing Piles.  If so, they take a good deal of time to install, cure and be load tested.  I would suspect at this rate we may not have any vertical construction until Summer 2019 with top out possibly Early Spring 2020.