Belk Place: Carolina Theater and Hotel Intercontinental

[KJHburg]

2 hours ago, Scribe said:

I was driving by last night and it seemed like there was more equipment on site then I've seen before.  Can anyone get a daytime picture for us?

I will tomorrow afternoon unless someone posts something sooner.

[j-man]

16 hours ago, KJHburg said:

I will tomorrow afternoon unless someone posts something sooner.

hopefully the rain stops

[KJHburg]

On 2/21/2019 at 1:14 PM, Scribe said:

I was driving by last night and it seemed like there was more equipment on site then I've seen before.  Can anyone get a daytime picture for us?

Okay for my 3 pack I would like a chocolate glazed, a hot regular one only if hot, a blueberry and one raspberry filled one and tall coffee with room for lots of cream and sugar.  

Today.   Photo tips only from really from southbound Tryon at the light.  Coming up 6th gets great fencing shots.  

[KJHburg]

Workers present I think walk by photos today.  Too bad the Carolina Theater is not opened now for it would a great place for presidential debate to take place.  Now booking for 2024. 

[gman430]

 

[704Dimitri]

9 hours ago, gman430 said:

 

Wow do I actually see Steele beams!!?

[Eightane]

Question, and I don't mean this to sound pessimistic: if for any reason the slow construction and/or market variables wind up raising the cost of this project significantly before it's finished, is there any reason to worry over where the funding will come from? As this was bankrolled by a lot of donation-type sources, have they continued to accept donations after launching construction just in case of a thing like this, or was it only started when there was enough in reserve to account for cost hikes, or is there some other way they might avoid troubles with money if the scenario I named should occur?

 

I feel woefully undereducated, hah.

[KJHburg]

28 minutes ago, Eightane said:

Question, and I don't mean this to sound pessimistic: if for any reason the slow construction and/or market variables wind up raising the cost of this project significantly before it's finished, is there any reason to worry over where the funding will come from? As this was bankrolled by a lot of donation-type sources, have they continued to accept donations after launching construction just in case of a thing like this, or was it only started when there was enough in reserve to account for cost hikes, or is there some other way they might avoid troubles with money if the scenario I named should occur?

 

I feel woefully undereducated, hah.

Pretty sure the money raised was to restore the theater the hotel is being done by a separate developer with their own financing.  Here is the story in their own words

https://carolinatheatreclt.org/theatre/project/

Edited March 3, 2019 by KJHburg

[KJHburg]

Interesting thing I did not know this developer is from Melbourne Australia and the hotel operator Valor is from Atlanta.  

https://www.sbggroup.com.au/portfolio/     the rendering and information on their webpage is out of date. 

I dont remember this being in the press this is a EB5 deal for foreign investors. 

https://www.atlascapitalfm.com/eb-5-usa/atlas-eb-5-projects/

Edited March 3, 2019 by KJHburg

[CLTProductions]

I actually think the rendering is up to date...as in this is the current design

[KJHburg]

18 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

I actually think the rendering is up to date...as in this is the current design

I am talking about on this page  https://www.sbggroup.com.au/portfolio/   the Atlas capital webpage does seem to have it right.  

[Guest]

I actually think the rendering is up to date...as in this is the current design

It matches with approved Elevations.


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[CLTProductions]

This is the up to date one

[CLT704]

^So the nice-looking glass from before is no more? The one that was in the rendering of the bottom of the hotel.

If so, oh well the height for that site more than makes up for it, sorta lol.

Edited March 3, 2019 by CLT704

[Matthew.Brendan]

Nice. I love the cantilever. Very cool!

[Desert Power]

Love the design but I wish it were a different color.  Am I the only one that thinks we have too much blue glass in the skyline?

[15895]

I would not hate it if the new duke tower looked like this  

[TheOneRJ]

Hate the logo 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Desert Power said:

Love the design but I wish it were a different color.  Am I the only one that thinks we have too much blue glass in the skyline?

I think its going to be a darker blue than this. I emailed the rendering to the developer in Australia to see if they have any comments.

[Hcubed]

That's disappointing. The other design was amazing. Now, another generic retro-70's glass box...

[CLT704]

On 9/18/2018 at 5:02 PM, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

I think this is part of the updated, meanwhile, they could have actually used a photo of Charlotte to create it lol. Also looks like its listed at 420'

Looking back, is this the same type of glass as in the rendering above? Or am I looking too much into how glass is rendered.

[Guest]

Looking back, is this the same type of glass as in the rendering above? Or am I looking too much into how glass is rendered.

I think the other rendering is not at twilight, and not as fleshed out. I emailed the developer, told them I was going to run this photo next week and maybe that’ll get a response. I actually like what I see, I always thought the cascading glass would be the first thing to get VEd out


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[KJHburg]

Now I am confused I thought the glass had a pattern or something in it.  Those renderings on the 2 different websites I noted look different.  

so was this the old rendering or what?   I thought this was the design.

 

[Guest]

Now I am confused I thought the glass had a pattern or something in it.  Those renderings on the 2 different websites I noted look different.  
so was this the old rendering or what?   I thought this was the design.
 

That’s 2 years old man. Costs change, construction gets more expensive, labor gets more expensive. And every time you get a big setback, something has to get taken out. Just like when you gut renovate a old house.


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[videtur quam contuor]

33 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

That’s 2 years old man. Costs change, construction gets more expensive, labor gets more expensive. And every time you get a big setback, something has to get taken out. Just like when you gut renovate a old house.


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Residential equivalent:

A landscape contractor said he was returning next life as a demo specialist. Landscapers are last on the site, ground is destroyed, debris everywhere and homeowner has blown budget so landscaper has to do 50k$ with 0k$. Meanwhile demo comes first, knocks down, hauls, and grabs first check-on to the next job. Next life, demo.