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I'm surprised more people haven't weighed in on this. What does everyone think of the design?

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Wow - that is NOT the same proposal i saw about 6 months ago. Now i've got to go break out that old file...

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I don't imagine any potential tenants are ready to be announced. It would be really sweet to see some national retailer locate there to catalyze retail development in the area. If this building were filled up with ground floor retail (not restaurants and coffee shops) I wonder how long it would take for more development to occur along Commerce.

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I prefer the beautiful "that's a parking deck?!?!?" look of the ones right DT. But this is OK.

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Unless I'm lost, lots 007 and 008 are River City Slim's, right across the street.

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Wow - that is NOT the same proposal i saw about 6 months ago. Now i've got to go break out that old file...

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I don't imagine any potential tenants are ready to be announced. It would be really sweet to see some national retailer locate there to catalyze retail development in the area. If this building were filled up with ground floor retail (not restaurants and coffee shops) I wonder how long it would take for more development to occur along Commerce.

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I think it looks great!

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I like the concept! It would be interesting to see what facade BETA had proposed. One question. If a parking ramp life span is 30 to 40 years, what happens when it's life is up, and you have a building wrapped around it? It seems as though it would be pretty tricky for tenants.

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I like the concept! It would be interesting to see what facade BETA had proposed. One question. If a parking ramp life span is 30 to 40 years, what happens when it's life is up, and you have a building wrapped around it? It seems as though it would be pretty tricky for tenants.

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If a parking ramp life span is 30 to 40 years, what happens when it's life is up, and you have a building wrapped around it? It seems as though it would be pretty tricky for tenants.

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I like the concept! It would be interesting to see what facade BETA had proposed. One question. If a parking ramp life span is 30 to 40 years, what happens when it's life is up, and you have a building wrapped around it? It seems as though it would be pretty tricky for tenants.

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What's the limiting factor on parking ramp life? Is it exposure, or are they just more cheaply constructed due to their function? Since concrete continues curing for along time I'd think a ramp would get stronger with age, at least for a while. Though, why was the Division and Fulton ramp torn down? I thought it was because of structural issues.

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Latest news on Mlive

"Jack Hoffman, chairman of the city's Parking Services Commission, is a historic preservationist who typically walks from his Heritage Hill home to his downtown law office."

"Hoffman said he's willing to sacrifice the vacant building at 38 Commerce SW if it will increase the supply of parking in the neighborhood, thereby making other historic buildings more valuable for redevelopment."

"The Parking Commission's blessing was the first of several approvals developer Andy Winkel will need for the project.... Winkel still needs the approval of the Downtown Development Authority, the city's Historic Preservation Commission, state economic development authorities and the full City Commission. Winkel said he hopes to break ground on the project late next year."

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What's the limiting factor on parking ramp life? Is it exposure, or are they just more cheaply constructed due to their function? Since concrete continues curing for along time I'd think a ramp would get stronger with age, at least for a while. Though, why was the Division and Fulton ramp torn down? I thought it was because of structural issues.

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There are condos built all the time with parking structures making up the bottom floors. The hotel proposed for Monroe North has parking on the first few levels. There's parking beneath the Calder. The first level of Icon on Bond is parking.

How is this any different?

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There are condos built all the time with parking structures making up the bottom floors. The hotel proposed for Monroe North has parking on the first few levels. There's parking beneath the Calder. The first level of Icon on Bond is parking.

How is this any different?

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With that said, then I'm pretty sure that the life-span of ordinary parking garages may not be an issue here. Considering the implementation of them in all the buildings mentioned above, I'm fairly certain these will all have long lifespans, or perhaps a means of maintenance without complete rebuilding. There's no way they'd take down these buildings after 15 years just for parking ramp reasons.

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Couldn't these parking ramps ovetime serve for other purposes when we perhaps get light rail and the car is not the sole mode of transportation? Like conversion into office buildings or something.

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There are condos built all the time with parking structures making up the bottom floors. The hotel proposed for Monroe North has parking on the first few levels. There's parking beneath the Calder. The first level of Icon on Bond is parking.

How is this any different?

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I'm refering more to longevity of ramps, rather than terrorism potential. After all, nothing will ever be completely terror-proof. We will always find ways to prevent it, and people will always find ways around those preventions. Such is the cycle of life.

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I'm refering more to longevity of ramps, rather than terrorism potential. After all, nothing will ever be completely terror-proof. We will always find ways to prevent it, and people will always find ways around those preventions. Such is the cycle of life.

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Couldn't these parking ramps ovetime serve for other purposes when we perhaps get light rail and the car is not the sole mode of transportation? Like conversion into office buildings or something.

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Hopefully future developments follow similar plans.

Do special steps need to be taken for ventilation on a fully enclosed parking ramp?

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