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Lifeless to alive in just a couple of years.

on topic but miniaturized... my wife 3d printed a copy of the uptown skyline for me!     Hurst was not ‘Hursted’, but check out those accurately reproduced surface lots! (actually

Per Charlotte Ledger, the land at 4th and Brevard across from CTC sold for $11M.   This is the Norfolk Southern land they were slow to let go of.    I am incredibly excited about this.  White Point Pa

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1 minute ago, Blue_Devil said:

ITs a big empty lot, great location for an Apartment complex. It will clear the homeless out of the area too. 

The shelter is literally next door to this address, the homeless people aren't going anywhere. It's also not super-walkable to...anything. Closest destination is probably Optimist Hall and it's 15 minutes.

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2 minutes ago, Madison Parkitect said:

The shelter is literally next door to this address, the homeless people aren't going anywhere. It's also not super-walkable to...anything. Closest destination is probably Optimist Hall and it's 15 minutes.

Well, maybe it will be affordable then? :tw_expressionless:

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45 minutes ago, j-man said:

I will say this. I was just riding around town for a couple of hours Saturday and sadly I felt like Uptown was the last place I wanted to be. I don’t know. I felt like SouthEnd was drawing me the most with its vibrant atmosphere. I feel like they’re getting it right there. Uptown seems to be lifeless most of the day. Even during the week. I’m not sure if the retail is lacking still, or what. I just felt like Uptown from a far seems to be the go to spot but when you’re there it just feels cold and concrete. Maybe it’s the beige and grey all over, the huge ugly parking garages, or all the big lobbies. I think there needs to be more of a push for infill projects because tower after tower and I still feel like Uptown isn’t that walkable, vibrant or welcoming. It’s getting better but still not where it should be with a population this big. And yes I know Covid is out but that doesn’t count for much of my feelings about it. 

The excitement that used to happen in Uptown has moved to South End. That is perfectly okay. Uptown will be lively again once concerts, shows and games reopen in full force, and office workers return.

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1 hour ago, norm21499 said:

The excitement that used to happen in Uptown has moved to South End. That is perfectly okay. Uptown will be lively again once concerts, shows and games reopen in full force, and office workers return.

Many office workers are returning just 3 days a week. That could be a big permanent reduction in foot traffic Uptown. What was 100,000 average daily workers in Uptown may end up averaging 60,000 - 70,000 per day when workers at our biggest employers move to their hybrid schedules of some days in the office and others at home. The weakest restaurants, et aren't going to make it long term. Restaurants that relied on "oh the line is too long at Chick Fil A, I guess I'll go to [insert name]" might not survive long term, because going forward the lines won't be as long at restaurants with a 35% reduction in foot traffic. 

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5 hours ago, norm21499 said:

The excitement that used to happen in Uptown has moved to South End. That is perfectly okay. Uptown will be lively again once concerts, shows and games reopen in full force, and office workers return.

Yeah I see your point but SouthEnd doesn’t need events to have energy. It just does. Uptown just feels too corporate America lol even though most downtowns are for that. 

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27 minutes ago, norm21499 said:

Uptown is our financial district. How many financial districts in the country are lively, happening places after 5pm? 

I agree here.  Years ago in Manhattan, no one wanted to live in the Financial District (or FiDi).  That's all changed now that a number of the buildings have been repurposed into residences, as midtown became more desirable for large office users.

Uptown can be a lively spot after 5pm, however, if there's less focus on how great its buildings look to motorists on nearby freeways, and a much bigger focus on the pedestrian experience on the ground.  I've said it before, that's why I believe 101 Independence can be transformational to Tryon, and frankly, that sort of street-level activation should happen up and down Tryon and then on many other streets in Uptown.  Uptown can truly differentiate itself by becoming a "Pedestrian Priority Zone." 

Excerpt describing goals of the street space reflected in design standards (Rethinking the Street Space: Evolving Life in the Streets - Features | Planetizen):

Good design supports the function of a desired use. For over 150 years, street design standards and funding structures have successfully supported the single use of automobiles in the street space. Major cities across the globe are beginning to rediscover the street space (i.e. streets, sidewalks, alleys, and everything they contain) as an essential component of our neighborhoods and communities. In an effort to improve the quality of urban life, a wave of new street design manuals and toolkits has emerged - redefining the way streets are used. However, as communities rewrite their street design manuals, they face an outdated and well-developed federal transit infrastructure. History shows that street design standards have been limited by the prevailing notion of streets as a place for cars, rather than people.  

 

 

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33 minutes ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

Yeah, I'm looking forward to 101 Independence renovation too.  As much as we love BOACC, it does not help with street activation at all, unless you are going to see the illuminati frescoes in the lobby lol.   Founders Hall, at least the bottom where the BOA branch is, needs a renovation.  Scrap the branch.  Turn the existing branch into a nice restaurant (it's an underutilized plaza that should be bustling).   If you can't remove the branch, remove those fountains and place permanent food stalls/trucks or build a standalone structure like Golden Cow at Ally Center.   I know there were talks about renovating Thomas Polk Park as well.  Much needed.  It's nice, but other times it's not lol.  I would love a B Tower type structure there (pipe dream).  400 South Tryon tower has been undergoing retail renovation at the bottom.  Wells Fargo's little museum is leaving opening up some prime space.  We need to turn Tryon into an even more special place....it has the potential for sure!

With how lush and verdant it is, Tryon really could be this amazing Pedestrian Mall.  Just needs a strategic focus on that and a massive re-branding.  I know tons of people who'd walk the length of Uptown Tryon's "street gardens" if it were also lined with a street-level Pedestrian Mall experience.  Yes, I know malls around the country are struggling, but there are those that are thriving through reinvention and place-making.  <The Tryon Gardens Pedestrian Mall District>

And you're right, a BOACC street activation plan could actually be huge.  It's a high profile spot - any retail and restaurant uses there would quickly have a massive targeted patronage given the well-paid workers - and with BOACC undertaking this street activation in the heart of uptown, I imagine many other property owners and companies may very well follow suit.

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16 minutes ago, kermit said:

The Ledger reports that the Levine Museum site is now on the market (they said they were investigating a sale last year).

article says block includes BofA-owned Seventh Street Station, and an investment group that bought another property in 2019.  real estate transaction might include plans for entire block.

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