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There are now signs/banners for this project hanging outside the fence.  Site work looks basically complete.  I suspect we'll see some pile driving begin shortly. 

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The development company has added a couple of more renderings to their website. I'm still not crazy about the renderings, but I'm definitely optimistic about the eventual outcome!

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At the very least it's going to have quite the presence on Monticello Ave. I was a bit worried about this project, but those renderings make me more optimistic.

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If they stick to that design, it'll actually have a nice presence and stand out. It's boxy, but I like the first design. It's something different for this area. 

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It actually reminds me a bit of some of the newer stuff that they're doing here in parts of Chicago. Love it!

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Wow, this is gonna have quite a a presence. That retail is really gonna activate the street.  I'm not going to pass judgment on the rendering until I see something more polished, but right now I'm excited.  :)

 

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Anyone have any updates on this project? It seems like they cleared land and then everything stopped months ago. I'm thinking about changing the status of this thread and unpinning it.

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I think this project, at least in it's current iteration, is dead. I drove by the lot today, the lot is overgrown and the coming soon signs are no longer there. I'm going to try to find out what happened if I can.

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That really sucks. I was really looking forward to this one...it would've created some more density for that area.

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This MAY not be dead. Some of the documents I've seen have a start date of late 2017 or early 2018. Working to confirm though.

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Is the land for sale or the project itself for sale? Very confused by this. It looks like an "investment opportunity" brochure. The renderings in there are more detailed than what was previously released. Strange. I hope the city is intent on making sure whatever goes there stays within the urban character of the district. It would be disappointing to not see this on go through.

" Two city blocks comprising approximately 2.13 acres
" Zoned G-1 Granby/Monticello Corridor Mixed-Use
" Fully entitled for 300+ multifamily units plus ground-floor retail
" Shovel-ready with planning and design concepts available

" Numerous amenities in Ghent and Downtown Norfolk
" Healthy, consistent retail and multifamily growth and absorption

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https://pilotonline.com/news/local/that-big-patch-of-dirt-off-monticello-avenue-in-norfolk/article_5dfdb22c-65cb-5b0c-bae5-658e872434e0.html

"Haller said financing problems this summer stemmed in part from national investors who see Hampton Roads as a “secondary, tertiary” market.

“I don’t think they understood Norfolk,” he said."

This just p**ses me off. :angry: $42 million is not a big haul in this area. We routinely have major projects worth several times that built around here. The fact they could still say this about Norfolk, in 2017 no less...., I mean, wtf?

I mean, how about they look across the street at even larger projects that are 100% leased? Man this has me heated, and people wonder why we have a chip on our shoulder. :lol:

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Geez. Makes you wonder how Taubman built MacArthur Center,  in the middle of a then-struggling downtown, at nearly $300 million.......in the 1990's no less!?!?!?!

But then again, we can all name several projects in the region which didn't come to fruition… (Granby tower, Dome site project, etc., and only for example ). Some of them failed because of financing, while others were never explained. Was it always the same stigma from the outside stifling our growth? 

P.S.  I have a feeling that somebody here had something to do with this  story getting written. (It wasn't me.) Good work somebody.  Eye-opening & informative to be sure. 

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A secondary market. That hurts lol...

I don't like it, but I get it. Norfolk did a lot of status quo stuff over the years, while taking chances here and there (MacArthur). Hopefully, the investors will look at what's happened in the last 3 years and see this isn't the Norfolk of 30 years ago. 

Glad to see it's still on the table, at least. 

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55 minutes ago, Brennen said:

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Thanks. Yes, I found that it was Norfolk sewage system upgrade work. I X'd out my question because there's no delete option. lol

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 FWIW the for sale signs are down. Not sure what, if anything, this means but they were trying to have a new investor by the end of last year. Perhaps this indicates some sort of success. 

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Drive by this property leaving Chick Fil A today, anyone hearing anything about it? Seems like a good location for the planned apartments?

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It would be stupid, in this economy, to abandon this project. There is currently an apartment boom in this area. How these investors don't think we can support a project of this magnitude, when we've supported far larger in the past, is beyond me.

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