SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[archiham04]

The current wave of Townhouse site planning is so convoluted... this is certainly better than most, but man, can't someone get it right?

[Ryan20]

5 hours ago, archiham04 said:

The current wave of Townhouse site planning is so convoluted... this is certainly better than most, but man, can't someone get it right?

Can you elaborate? Do you not like the designs of the building or the layouts?

[Crown]

300 West Summit Breaking ground  (64K Office) 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/development/article167368167.html

 

[archiham04]

19 hours ago, Ryan20 said:

Can you elaborate? Do you not like the designs of the building or the layouts?

The site planning.  Charlotte zoning requires open space and a few other oddities for townhomes + NCDOT has issues with how driveways are constructed + our city land parcels and street grid is not really divided into sections that work well dimension-ally for efficient unit placing, car parking and pedestrian access.  Add all this up and you end up with a lot of weird townhomes with front doors facing adjacent property sideyards, depressing autocourts, and semi suburban street presence.  All this I sum up as "convoluted" feeling because few of the current townhome developments feel like they fit.... either with their neighborhood, or even their own site.

[asthasr]

It's unfortunate because townhomes can fit a grid extremely well when appropriately site-planned. They're one of the most urban forms of housing, and extremely beautiful when well done (Georgetown in DC or, really, a big chunk of Philadelphia).

[Guest]

7 hours ago, archiham04 said:

The site planning.  Charlotte zoning requires open space and a few other oddities for townhomes + NCDOT has issues with how driveways are constructed + our city land parcels and street grid is not really divided into sections that work well dimension-ally for efficient unit placing, car parking and pedestrian access.  Add all this up and you end up with a lot of weird townhomes with front doors facing adjacent property sideyards, depressing autocourts, and semi suburban street presence.  All this I sum up as "convoluted" feeling because few of the current townhome developments feel like they fit.... either with their neighborhood, or even their own site.

I know about a townhouse development in the works that has to work themselves around a duke high voltage tower easement, that plan will give you a aneurism when you see it.

[gman430]

Various projects in SouthEnd: 

Edited August 20, 2017 by gman430

[AP3]

On ‎8‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 8:55 AM, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

I don't know whether to take this seriously or not. Either is an upzone, a microunit building or perhaps just taller than expected and loft style. The units seem to be drawn as 400 sq feet. Guess time will tell. Pleasantly surprised with the 30k+ of retail. Annoyed with the parking lot, though its shielded nicely from the street.

Building elevations posted in Accela. The street level units appear to be a mix of lofts/commercial space and traditional multifamily on the third floor and up.

 

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, AP3 said:

Building elevations posted in Accela. The street level units appear to be a mix of lofts/commercial space and traditional multifamily on the third floor and up.

 

I admire their panache. Going to be a tough sell over there for that much retail.

[nowensone]

Makes one wonder how Tremont and the Arlington ever got built at all.

[KJHburg]

Southern Tier Brewery is going into the Bowers Fiber redevelopment in lower South End (LoSE) They are taking 28,000 sq ft. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/development/article169142407.html?utm_content=buffera1891&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[dylansukkert]

Just now, KJHburg said:

Southern Tier Brewery is going into the Bowers Fiber redevelopment in lower South End (LoSE) They are taking 28,000 sq ft. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/development/article169142407.html?utm_content=buffera1891&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Only bad thing about this, king of a walk from all the other breweries and bars in this area.

[CLTProductions]

8 minutes ago, dylansukkert said:

Only bad thing about this, king of a walk from all the other breweries and bars in this area.

if by "king of a walk" you mean 5 minutes from the farther point....sure i guess, i personally dont consider .2mi far but okay.....here are more images

[AP3]

I think he meant the walk from triple c/Hyde? Would be nice to have more development between New Bern and Scaleybark to make the trek on the rail trail more inviting and less industrial.


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[kermit]

39 minutes ago, AP3 said:

I think he meant the walk from triple c/Hyde? Would be nice to have more development between New Bern and Scaleybark to make the trek on the rail trail more inviting and less industrial.

The walk from New Bern should feel much better once (if?) the Scalybark commercial stuff ever gets built and if the envisioned railtrail /park improvements happen around the CATS facility. Unfortunately the QT will always be there tormenting pedestrians. Sometimes I hate the planners in this town...  

[KJHburg]

Lost in this story about Bower Fibers building is that SentryOne a software monitoring firm is moving from Lake Norman area to 31,000 sq ft of office space. Another suburban company moving intown https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2017/08/24/bowers-project-in-lower-south-end-now-85-leased.html

[KJHburg]

Bainbridge Southend apartments rising (across from McDonalds) and David Weekley townhomes still underway across from the diner. Today. 

[kermit]

While they removed the switch connecting the blue line to the trolly barn and the Tremont ave trolly stop they also  started taking out track. I am sad to see the spur and trolly barn connection go but I suspect this is the beginning of the badly needed rail trail part deaux.

The trolly station roof really could be re-purposed into a shelter and way point on the trail.

 

Edited August 27, 2017 by kermit

[Ryan20]

On 8/25/2017 at 10:34 PM, KJHburg said:

Bainbridge Southend apartments rising (across from McDonalds) and David Weekley townhomes still underway across from the diner. Today. 

Those townhomes are taking forever even after accounting for the fire. 

[Ryan20]

The southpoint at southend townhomes have new signs up showing phase 2 with 38 more units off of Remount road but I can't find any zoning docs for it. Does anyone have any links?

[Prodev]

It was rezoned back in 08 under a general TOD, so no associated site plan, although you can pull the approved plan in accela. They've had the deal under contract for well over a year and finally closed last month and demo is underway on the two industrial buildings on the site. 

[AP3]

Agenda had an article on the townhomes that were recently approved on Dunavant St.

https://www.charlotteagenda.com/102217/20-new-townhomes-priced-275000-350000-coming-south-end/

 

[CLT2014]

Luckily the outside area for the dogs at Club Fetch on the southern border is on the furthest side to mitigate the barking noises for the units up against the Club Fetch wall. 

[archiham04]

^wonder how they will mitigate odors?

[southslider]

^The developer could install some landscaping buffer to help protect the canines' sensitive noses.