SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, JoshuaDrown said:

Can someone smarter than me help me understand this quote from the article?

“We really like the long- term viability of shadow-anchored retail projects in fortress locations with internet resistant tenant mixes much like what we’re going to create here,” says Wes McAdams, managing partner of Abacus Capital.

Atherton is the Shadow Anchor, their goal is to feed off of Atherton. Its basically this project's anchor despite being across a busy street. I have no fudging clue what a fortress location is though.

[KJHburg]

24 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Atherton is the Shadow Anchor, their goal is to feed off of Atherton. Its basically this project's anchor despite being across a busy street. I have no fudging clue what a fortress location is though.

Fortress locations to me would mean very high barriers of entry ie it ain't easy to build anything big or significant around it.  

[Guest]

Just now, KJHburg said:

Fortress locations to me would mean very high barriers of entry ie it ain't easy to build anything big or significant around it.  

That would make sense. Its not what I would have done with the parcel personally, but I'm happy with this site staying retail for the future.

[archiham04]

^^^A++ on pulling out that quote @JoshuaDrown  Mr. Wes McAdams you served up a dooosey sir!

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Cannot find a South End general thread so will place this here. While looking for something else I came across this. It is a Charlotte Planning Department design for South End although it is referred to by that name just once, in the introduction. The rest of the document refers to South Boulevard Corridor, Tryon Corridor, Dilworth, Wilmore, and other terms familiar to people in 1995. Recall that Tony Presley of MECA Properties and Mary Hopper started the branding of South End in 1995, the same year of this document so people had not incorporated the term into their thinking. Fun to see how the vision and the reality of today compare.  Some problems of that time are not problems today.

http://ww.charmeck.org/planning/Land Use Planning/SouthBlvdCorridorPlan1995.pdf

[archiham04]

This was probably around the same time that McCrory dubbed the area "Corridor of Crap"

[archiham04]

[jjwilli]

That is a great document.  Walking around the area over the weekend I feel like the bullet point below is a big miss. Even more so as the Camden Rd area becomes the center and soul of South End. Would be great for the connectivity of that area to South Blvd.

 

Is there anything out there like this for the original light rail plan that shows items that were cut due to costs (like the pedestrian bridge over 277)?

[archiham04]

Edited January 8, 2019 by archiham04

[j-man]

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/southpark-site-to-include-hotel-with-upscale-flag-new-to-charlotte/901074461

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, jjwilli said:

That is a great document.  Walking around the area over the weekend I feel like the bullet point below is a big miss. Even more so as the Camden Rd area becomes the center and soul of South End. Would be great for the connectivity of that area to South Blvd.

 

Is there anything out there like this for the original light rail plan that shows items that were cut due to costs (like the pedestrian bridge over 277)?

http://www.charlotterailtrail.org/projects/2015/12/17/kingston-connection

I mean they didn't make a crossing of the rail itself, which isn't an issue because theres a crossing a block in either direction, but at least they connected Kingston to the Rail Trail.

[archiham04]

... and we know that if a crossing were installed there it would probably be $2M (see Publix crossing)

[jjwilli]

Trains haul through the Atherton / Publix area. Not so much here as the distance from the East / West stop and Bland  isn't far. So maybe only $1 million? I'd rather have the Wilmore South End Park for that price.

All I am saying is that one day that crossing would be nice to have.  And it definitely will be needed when @ricky_davis_fan_21 buys the Miller Services building and turns it into the greatest food hall in the world.  The people who stay at the Holiday Inn will appreciate it.

 

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This pole at Marshall and Ideal way has SIX support wires which is my top sighting. This intersection nearby of Ideal/Remount/South is a catastrophe of poles and wires. 

And people who say they do not see them, idk

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On 10/24/2017 at 8:42 PM, SouthEndCLT811 said:

Strawn Tower redevelopment.  All the small buildings on the map below.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2149606,-80.8517683,464m/data=!3m1!1e3

Edit:  Look at the top left you'll see a lightly shaded Strawn Tower around all the other development.  The plan is to extend Bland across South as well as Cleveland connecting to Caldwell which are the streets running right through the rendering by the existing tower.

 

This is the Strawn Village project finally(!) moving forward. The first three photos are at Euclid and Mount Vernon and is the low access point of the entire property. Sewer and/or storm lines installing at this point.

 

 

 

 

This is at Rensselaer and Cleveland, the second lowest point of the property

Many survey flags on this section of the property for other work.

The Strawn Tower is still occupied and there were people moving in and out representing good occupancy of the tower.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2019 by tarhoosier

[j-man]

14 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

 

This is the Strawn Village project finally(!) moving forward. The first three photos are at Euclid and Mount Vernon and is the low access point of the entire property. Sewer and/or storm lines installing at this point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is at Rensselaer and Cleveland, the second lowest point of the property

 

Many survey flags on this section of the property for other work.

 

The Strawn Tower is still occupied and there were people moving in and out representing good occupancy of the tower.

 

 

My 2019 Prediction came true! Thank you for these photos.

 

 

[J-Rob]

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[jordan704]

Before/After 

[SgtCampsalot]

3 hours ago, jordan704 said:

Before/After 

Hmmm... it is a lot nice, of course, but oh my goodness that street presence is death. After all the effort that Cresent/ Hotel/ Uptown 550/ Camden townhomes are making on the South Blvd bridge, this building's frontage is still a dead zone.

[CLT2014]

16 minutes ago, SgtCampsalot said:

Hmmm... it is a lot nice, of course, but oh my goodness that street presence is death. After all the effort that Cresent/ Hotel/ Uptown 550/ Camden townhomes are making on the South Blvd bridge, this building's frontage is still a dead zone.

I think their property line ends at the fence and the government owns the slope. I wish we could put some benches or park like features along this stretch to make it feel more welcoming. 

Edited January 15, 2019 by CLT2014

[Matthew.Brendan]

Ahh yes, the roar of traffic. Close your eyes and sounds like waves on the beach!

[J-Rob]

Hawkers finishing up.


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[kermit]

With Barcelona and Hawkers set to open any minute there has been some exterior work happening at the Nebel/Design Center complex. The alleys through the complex are getting string lights  and there is an Instagram wall where people were literally lined up for photos. Hawkers signage has improved street presence, a good bit and (I hope) Barcelona will have similar activation effects. 

Jenni’s had a line out the door in 38 degree weather when I walked by today. WTF?

Once the Tremont entertainment stuff (bowling, arcade bar, etc.) and Atherton opens this part of Southend may become the biggest mass of pedestrians in Charlotte.

Remind me why Pike's is still here?

 

 

^Gezzus that parking deck in the background is a pox.

Edited January 22, 2019 by kermit

[KJHburg]

Miscellaneous projects in SouthEnd today.  Including old favorite of all and of @ricky_davis_fan_21 the pink or Desert Rose Arlington tower. 

1.  along Tremont future home of Pins Mechanical  2. new apartments at W Tremont and S Tryon 3.4.5.   new apartments and retail at Dunnavant and Hawkins 6.  new townhomes along Dunnavant 7. 8. new Bainbridge Southend apartments along South Blvd. 9.  The Arlington condo and yes this is the most controversial high rise ever built in the QC

 

[j-man]

Those Bainbridge SouthEnd apartments are the definition of apartments that don't have to have those tacky color schemes for a place to look nice.