SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[InSouthPark]

14 hours ago, KJHburg said:

^^ that is great and like you said it has been years.  I originally thought it was going to be their garden center or something but tool rental will do good intown like that.  

I went into that Lowes last night and their garden center consisted of mums and a few random other plants.  Hard to believe Dilworth cant support a huge garden center there but what do I know. 

[KJHburg]

these Marsh Properties apartments the Edge behind the Harris Teeter look great compared to most in Southend.  Of course it helps they have owned the land since the 1950s.  

[j-man]

On 10/6/2020 at 9:00 PM, KJHburg said:

these Marsh Properties apartments the Edge behind the Harris Teeter look great compared to most in Southend.  Of course it helps they have owned the land since the 1950s.  

Yes!! I love these! They look well thought out but not just a crappy cheap recycled design. 

Edited October 12, 2020 by j-man

[RANYC]

New Brookhill denied, yet again, in another round of financing negotiations with the city’s LISC.  The Land-lease appears to be the hurdle.  Feds required the structures be torn down or refurbished by June of this year, but extended that to September.  143 units occupied.  Developer seems to say time has run out.  They’ll seek $13 million in financing gap from other sources but it seems they’re running out of options.

I’d love to find replacement housing for the residents there but I can’t wait for that property to be cleared of those low-slung structures.

[Blue_Devil]

2 hours ago, RANYC said:

New Brookhill denied, yet again, in another round of financing negotiations with the city’s LISC.  The Land-lease appears to be the hurdle.  Feds required the structures be torn down or refurbished by June of this year, but extended that to September.  143 units occupied.  Developer seems to say time has run out.  They’ll seek $13 million in financing gap from other sources but it seems they’re running out of options.

I’d love to find replacement housing for the residents there but I can’t wait for that property to be cleared of those low-slung structures.

Well, I don't believe they have run out of options, and they have private financing, its just they currently have no options of the amount of affordable they want to put on the land. They are going to build there, its just going to be a lot less affordable housing, which is a damn shame. 

[Hushpuppy321]

Anyone know the breaking point between Mid-Rise and High-Rise?   Anyway - Would ‘The Hanover’ Residential project (Permitted up to 170’ Tall) on East Morehead and Euclid Ave just approved by Council be appropriate for a Southend Thread?  Or is that Dilworth?

[Blue_Devil]

7 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Anyone know the breaking point between Mid-Rise and High-Rise?   Anyway - Would ‘The Hanover’ Residential project (Permitted up to 170’ Tall) on East Morehead and Euclid Ave just approved by Council be appropriate for a Southend Thread?  Or is that Dilworth?

link to any articles?

[SgtCampsalot]

11 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Anyone know the breaking point between Mid-Rise and High-Rise?   Anyway - Would ‘The Hanover’ Residential project (Permitted up to 170’ Tall) on East Morehead and Euclid Ave just approved by Council be appropriate for a Southend Thread?  Or is that Dilworth?

 

It's funny it's on Morehead, because from just looking at the picture, before reading anything, I assumed this was either Broadstone Queen City, or Loft One35 

[Hushpuppy321]

4 hours ago, Blue_Devil said:

link to any articles?

No - Not yet.  This was from the City of Charlotte Rezoning Requests for 2020.  This particular project was approved on this Monday Oct 19th.  I wouldn’t anticipate any ground breaking until sometime in 2021.  The Building will be 170’ Tall or very close to it making it approximately a 14 Story building with some Ground floor Commercial space is what it looks like from the photos.  I think the Zoning Petition said 350 Apartments.

4 minutes ago, SgtCampsalot said:

It's funny it's on Morehead, because from just looking at the picture, before reading anything, I assumed this was either Broadstone Queen City, or Loft One35 

So true.  I do like how more high rise (I guess this is High Rise) buildings are proliferating outside of the I-277 Loop

[jtmonk]

12 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Anyone know the breaking point between Mid-Rise and High-Rise?   Anyway - Would ‘The Hanover’ Residential project (Permitted up to 170’ Tall) on East Morehead and Euclid Ave just approved by Council be appropriate for a Southend Thread?  Or is that Dilworth?

FYI here's the rendering that was posted a few months back in the Dilworth Projects Thread. 

 

[tozmervo]

14 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Anyone know the breaking point between Mid-Rise and High-Rise?   Anyway - Would ‘The Hanover’ Residential project (Permitted up to 170’ Tall) on East Morehead and Euclid Ave just approved by Council be appropriate for a Southend Thread?  Or is that Dilworth?

From a building code standpoint, there is no such thing as mid-rise. Once you hit a certain height (basically beyond the reach of fire truck ladders), you are considered a high-rise by code. I'm wildly oversimplifying code exceptions, but the height trigger is 75 ft from grade to the highest point of occupancy.

Zoning is a different beast, but I don't remember if it specifically defines a midrise condition or not.

[DMann]

Normally in Real Estate mid rise is considered 10 floors

[Blue_Devil]

On 10/21/2020 at 1:13 PM, jtmonk said:

 

Out of Curiosity, is this the 615. Morehead property, or across the street?

[Madison Parkitect]

On 10/21/2020 at 4:37 PM, DMann said:

Normally in Real Estate mid rise is considered 10 floors

Learn something new everyday, I always thought once you got above a typical 5-over-2 height you were into high rise territory.

[CLT Development]

5 hours ago, Blue_Devil said:

Out of Curiosity, is this the 615. Morehead property, or across the street?

directly across the street. 

[Blue_Devil]

49 minutes ago, The Real Clayton said:

directly across the street. 

So this corner is eventually going to have some height and density to it. 

[CLT Development]

2 hours ago, Blue_Devil said:

So this corner is eventually going to have some height and density to it. 

I would imagine Morehead slowly densifies over the next 5 years.

[KJHburg]

21 hours ago, The Real Clayton said:

I would imagine Morehead slowly densifies over the next 5 years.

as long as they preserve most of the willow oaks I am okay. 

[CLT Development]

35 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

as long as they preserve most of the willow oaks I am okay. 

I would imagine nature will take care of those. They are starting to near their ends.

[kermit]

48 minutes ago, The Real Clayton said:

I would imagine nature will take care of those. They are starting to near their ends.

Dilworth oaks are going quickly too

[RANYC]

Willow oaks lining the streets in Myers Park is stunning.  Wish this could have been replicated in more of the city.  Hard to achieve canopies over our thoroughfares with the Duke Energy tree mutilation program to keep droopy power lines as conspicuous as ever.  Yes, I understand I'll get lambased for prioritizing tree limbs and shade over conduits for electricity, but I find the hacksawed limbs and foliage to be dispiriting.

[ArchiCLT]

Is there anything in the works to mandate new TOD's bury all overhead utility lines? With a densifying SouthEnd, it's absolutely pathetic to see great developments ruined by messy utility lines. If any of these newly-planted street tree species have the potential to grow  to impact the required clearances of the lines, you know for sure that Duke Energy contractors will come hacking their way through SouthEnd streets in about 15 years.

Architecture firms shouldn't have to spend hours photoshopping utility lines out of final photos or using renderings in lieu of finished photos of horrible street elevations.

AKA: Vantage, Railyard,  Lowe's, Portman,  2100 South Tryon, etc...

[KJHburg]

Miscellaneous photos of Southend skyline and prominent buildings. Today. 

[KJHburg]

the burgeoning Southend skyline with multiple high rises. 

[jjwilli]

From The Ledger this morning:

“Cousins Properties bought four parcels (1,2,3,4) totaling 3.4 acres near the intersection of South Tryon and Bland streets for $28.1M. The land includes several surface lots as well as the building that contains Hot Taco and All American Pub. OK, if you haven’t heard of those, it’s the building that used to include the restaurant Greek Isles and, if you really have a long Charlotte memory, Jillian’s. A Cousins spokeswoman told The Ledger she had no comment on plans for the site.”

Any thoughts on if this mean a new tower on the horizon or just land banking for the future?