SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[turbocraig]

6 hours ago, kermit said:

Here is your chance to have a piece of Charlotte history in your house! I don’t know why they would do it, but Leather and Lace is throwing out a perfectly good strip club chair. This would look great in anyone’s living room or formal dining room (depending on the motif). I would have grabbed it for myself but my wife has asked me to stop bringing home street furniture. [this should probably be blue text]

 

 

....and we're gonna gloss over the fact that you... just happened to be hanging out by Leather & Lace's dumpster?  Right, then.

[kermit]

35 minutes ago, turbocraig said:

....and we're gonna gloss over the fact that you... just happened to be hanging out by Leather & Lace's dumpster?  Right, then.

Any explanation I could offer at this point would be unconvincing. 

I’ll just say that its good for the soul to have a broad activity space…

[jjwilli]

Crane is coming down at
The Vantage East Tower. 
 

[dylansukkert]

New crane being erected in Southend at Dunavant and Distribution streets. This is the lot closer to The Junction not Tryon Street. Anyone have renderings or details of the apartment going here? 

[KJHburg]

Yes here you go 

2300 Dunavant Street Akridge Invested - Commercial Real Estate Services

[RANYC]

8 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Yes here you go 

2300 Dunavant Street Akridge Invested - Commercial Real Estate Services

This project’s parking spaces to units ratio is down >10% from an older South End complex, the Ashton.  Progress?

Ashton built during the aughts: 475/310 = 1.53 car spaces per unit

2020s New Akridge Project: 584/421 = 1.37  car spaces per unit

Edited December 22, 2021 by RANYC

[Blue_Devil]

In other news, the Off Broadway Shoes location will be the call The Boulevard. It will be a Broadstone community, usually higher quality, and the press release said it would be a mixed use building.

No plans have been filed yet.


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[MothBeast]

I like to think we pestered them into it

[Prodev]

13 hours ago, Blue_Devil said:

In other news, the Off Broadway Shoes location will be the call The Boulevard. It will be a Broadstone community, usually higher quality, and the press release said it would be a mixed use building.

No plans have been filed yet.


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Their plans are already approved and grading permit submitted. 287 units with no retail. It's wood frame over podium parking. Paid $14.1 mil for the site.

[kermit]

Interesting discussion here about how the requirement for multiple staircases in apartment buildings is problematic for infill housing design and its part of the reason why we end up with Soviet style podiums. (Yes, they do discuss fire safety concerns)

https://slate.com/business/2021/12/staircases-floor-plan-twitter-housing-apartments.html

Edited December 23, 2021 by kermit

[RANYC]

4 hours ago, Prodev said:

Their plans are already approved and grading permit submitted. 287 units with no retail. It's wood frame over podium parking. Paid $14.1 mil for the site.

Press release said mixed use, but approved plans are for 287 apartment units with no retail?  How do you square this?

Oh wait, given podium parking, does a combination of car storage and apartment units within the same structure count as mixed-use?

Edited December 23, 2021 by RANYC

[Blue_Devil]

1 hour ago, RANYC said:

Press release said mixed use, but approved plans are for 287 apartment units with no retail?  How do you square this?

Oh wait, given podium parking, does a combination of car storage and apartment units within the same structure count as mixed-use?

 

Site plan indicates retail along the rail trail

[Prodev]

"Retail/amenity" = amenity. Never give pure apartment groups like Alliance/Bainbridge the benefit of the doubt. Also, If it were retail it would have been factored into their parking tabulation in that plan set. 

[Blue_Devil]

5 minutes ago, Prodev said:

"Retail/amenity" = amenity. Never give pure apartment groups like Alliance/Bainbridge the benefit of the doubt. Also, If it were retail it would have been factored into their parking tabulation in that plan set. 

Between the press release and this, it just give me pause. Maybe its not, but why call it out in the plans and press than? 

[RANYC]

3 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

Between the press release and this, it just give me pause. Maybe its not, but why call it out in the plans and press than? 

To mollify UPers

[MothBeast]

Also, not much else around this part of the rail trail, I figure there is exceedingly more traffic on the s blvd side. A sign that this isn’t retail, or do they know something we don’t about the future of this portion of the rail trail?

Edited December 23, 2021 by MothBeast

[RANYC]

According to a Katie Peralta Soloff tweet, the project will have a "jazz-inspired design" (can someone translate that for me?) and include a speakeasy lounge.  Speakeasy lounge qualifies as retail in my book, and I'm actually heartened at the idea that some of these apartment communities will start to include hole-in-the-wall, divey watering holes and live performance art instead of just banks, fast-casual dining, and salons.

[dylansukkert]

18 hours ago, MothBeast said:

Also, not much else around this part of the rail trail, I figure there is exceedingly more traffic on the s blvd side. A sign that this isn’t retail, or do they know something we don’t about the future of this portion of the rail trail?

Solis right beside it took FORVER to fill two of their three retail places. Spectrum Eye Care and Spoons. The last one is yet to be filled, building has been open for at least 4 years. 

[KJHburg]

Sometimes the truth hurts but I will say it.  There is not as much demand for retail in every apartment complex in Southend.  The generations that live in these apartments primarily buy online and heavily frequent bars and restaurants.  Obviously there is some demand.  We have some shopping districts in Southend Camden Ave for one and around Atherton and I am sure some others will develop.  And actually Atherton could be seen as extension of Camden Ave shopping.  Apartment developers see how long it takes for vacant retail space and they don't want to chance it.  Dittos for NoDa, Villa Heights, Belmont too. 

Edited December 24, 2021 by KJHburg

[dylansukkert]

Old Off Broadway building is coming down as I type. 

[KJHburg]

2 hours ago, dylansukkert said:

Old Off Broadway building is coming down as I type. 

Oh where oh where can I buy some shoes? 

[B Randy]

On 12/24/2021 at 4:23 PM, KJHburg said:

Sometimes the truth hurts but I will say it.  There is not as much demand for retail in every apartment complex in Southend.  The generations that live in these apartments primarily buy online and heavily frequent bars and restaurants.  Obviously there is some demand.  We have some shopping districts in Southend Camden Ave for one and around Atherton and I am sure some others will develop.  And actually Atherton could be seen as extension of Camden Ave shopping.  Apartment developers see how long it takes for vacant retail space and they don't want to chance it.  Dittos for NoDa, Villa Heights, Belmont too. 

How dare you. Ha!

We should be advocating for active, transparent ground floors. Whether that’s a gym, sales center, coffee shop, or corner bar.  Just not blank walls, utilities, or ground level parking.  

Because, you know, retail on every single corner/building ground floor takes rooftops to sustain it.

[j-man]

What is being built across the tracks from Loso at the light directly across the street of the townhomes at the light?

Edited December 29, 2021 by j-man

[Blue_Devil]

18 minutes ago, j-man said:

What is being built across the tracks from Loso at the light directly across the street if the townhomes at the light?

Its 300 or so apartments with like 10k of ground floor retail 

[SouthEndCLT811]

31 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

Its 300 or so apartments with like 10k of ground floor retail 

Yep! KJHburg shared in the Scaleybark thread

http://www.akridge.com/property/152/3441SouthBoulevard#description